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3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Feb 6 @ 2:47 PM ET
I don't think the Flyers expected him to be an offensive defenseman or point producer. They didn't trade for Luke Schenn for his offensive ability.
- MJL


They traded for him thinking or hoping he would become at least a 3 man possibly 2.
That's why they gave up the 2nd overall pick to get him. Luke has no consistency in his game.. He has proven that
Burned!!!!
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 6 @ 2:48 PM ET
Same poop different toilet, my friend. Livin the dream.

Took my first exam yesterday- shoulda done better, but still did fine. The way it works out, I have 1 exam every week until finals week.

I have an exam THE DAY WE COME BACK FROM SPRING BREAK

How are things up North?

- Giroux_Is_God


eh. the view isnt exactly any better a few stalls down haha
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 6 @ 2:50 PM ET
So, anyone wanna guess who will sit when Kimmo comes back.

P.S. Evander Kane out 4-6 weeks.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 6 @ 2:52 PM ET
Kimmo must be getting the injectable low molecular heparin daily to treat his blood clots. That way they can hold the injection until after the game is over to minimize bleeding risks. Pretty clever of those doctors.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 6 @ 2:54 PM ET
So, anyone wanna guess who will sit when Kimmo comes back.

P.S. Evander Kane out 4-6 weeks.

- jmatchett383


just means his value is ripe for the taking
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 6 @ 2:54 PM ET
So, anyone wanna guess who will sit when Kimmo comes back.

P.S. Evander Kane out 4-6 weeks.

- jmatchett383

Kimmo will be back the first week of March if he is coming back.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 6 @ 3:00 PM ET
Kimmo must be getting the injectable low molecular heparin daily to treat his blood clots. That way they can hold the injection until after the game is over to minimize bleeding risks. Pretty clever of those doctors.
- Marc D



That's what I thought was going to happen.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 6 @ 3:03 PM ET
That's what I thought was going to happen.
- MJL

me2
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 6 @ 3:14 PM ET
That's what I thought was going to happen.
- MJL

It is kind of an elegant solution because with the injectables the blood thinner can be out of the system in 12-24 hours, so if they time them around the games it minimizes the risk. The oral anticoagulation drugs take several days to leave the system.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 6 @ 3:17 PM ET
Kimmo must be getting the injectable low molecular heparin daily to treat his blood clots. That way they can hold the injection until after the game is over to minimize bleeding risks. Pretty clever of those doctors.
- Marc D


This is crazy goon talk, but let's say Kimmo is on a team that goes to the SCF and is playing a major role (he'll likely be as fresh as anyone). If you're the other team, would you target him more than usual, maybe give him some extra stick work in the hope that he'll bleed (and possibly miss a blood thinner dosage, possibly risking his health)? Just curious, and I'm not a doctor by any stretch, so I don't know the specifics of his situation.
ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ardmore, PA
Joined: 01.04.2013

Feb 6 @ 3:18 PM ET
So, anyone wanna guess who will sit when Kimmo comes back.

P.S. Evander Kane out 4-6 weeks.

- jmatchett383



That's 4-6 months.
ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ardmore, PA
Joined: 01.04.2013

Feb 6 @ 3:19 PM ET
It is kind of an elegant solution because with the injectables the blood thinner can be out of the system in 12-24 hours, so if they time them around the games it minimizes the risk. The oral anticoagulation drugs take several days to leave the system.
- Marc D


Sounds clever... but if this is what is necessary to get him back out on the ice, I'm not a fan. This is really worth it for a small shot at ... whatever?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 6 @ 3:20 PM ET
That's 4-6 months.
- ThirdEye


YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 6 @ 3:21 PM ET
Sounds clever... but if this is what is necessary to get him back out on the ice, I'm not a fan. This is really worth it for a small shot at ... whatever?
- ThirdEye


He's kind of like Apollo Creed in Rocky IV. He needs to do this for himself, to prove he can still do it because he wants to, and wants to go out on his own terms.

I just hope it doesn't have a similar ending for him.
ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ardmore, PA
Joined: 01.04.2013

Feb 6 @ 3:22 PM ET
YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!!
- jmatchett383


I wish I could. I guess I'm one of the few that'd really like to see us make a move for Kane. If he is indeed out 4-6 months, I'd think since we're obviously not making the playoffs that it'd be doable.
Trainfellow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.23.2012

Feb 6 @ 3:24 PM ET
Did we give Kimmo a vial of Gordie Howe's blood yet?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 6 @ 3:26 PM ET
Sounds clever... but if this is what is necessary to get him back out on the ice, I'm not a fan. This is really worth it for a small shot at ... whatever?
- ThirdEye

I agree, I think it is still too risky.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 6 @ 3:26 PM ET
Sounds clever... but if this is what is necessary to get him back out on the ice, I'm not a fan. This is really worth it for a small shot at ... whatever?
- ThirdEye

I think that's a question only Timonen can answer.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 6 @ 3:27 PM ET
I agree, I think it is still too risky.
- Marc D


I'm with you, but it's his call. I'm sure he's taking every precaution. He knows the risks and this is what he chose.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 6 @ 3:27 PM ET
This is crazy goon talk, but let's say Kimmo is on a team that goes to the SCF and is playing a major role (he'll likely be as fresh as anyone). If you're the other team, would you target him more than usual, maybe give him some extra stick work in the hope that he'll bleed (and possibly miss a blood thinner dosage, possibly risking his health)? Just curious, and I'm not a doctor by any stretch, so I don't know the specifics of his situation.
- jmatchett383

The real risk is not the external cuts from slashes, that bleeding can be controlled with stitches. The big risk is bleeding inside the skull. That could kill or disable him from a stroke.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 6 @ 3:29 PM ET
I think that's a question only Timonen can answer.
- BulliesPhan87

yup, he said it was something between him and his doctor.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 6 @ 3:30 PM ET
The real risk is not the external cuts from slashes, that bleeding can be controlled with stitches. The big risk is bleeding inside the skull. That could kill or disable him from a stroke.
- Marc D


So cross check him in the head is what you're saying?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 6 @ 3:31 PM ET
yup, he said it was something between him and his doctor.
- Marc D

It's an arduous process to get him back on the ice. But, at least the way I see it, it isn't about saving the Flyers season. It's about Timonen doing what he thinks is right, and maybe allowing himself to retire with dignity in his own mind.

(disclaimer: I doubt any of us would have thought him undignified if he just retired instead of doing this)
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 6 @ 3:32 PM ET
It's an arduous process to get him back on the ice. But, at least the way I see it, it isn't about saving the Flyers season. It's about Timonen doing what he thinks is right, and maybe allowing himself to retire with dignity in his own mind.

(disclaimer: I doubt any of us would have thought him undignified if he just retired instead of doing this)

- BulliesPhan87

he wants to go out on his own terms

hopefully he leaves intact
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 6 @ 3:33 PM ET
So cross check him in the head is what you're saying?
- Jsaquella

why does james neal pop into my mind here
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