So let's say the Leafs get Anaheim's 1st for Franson...

It is now draft day and Edmonton or Buffalo is picking 1st and Leafs are picking 6th.

Would you offer, Leafs first, Anaheim's first, Leafs first in 2016, Rielly, and Nylander for the 1st overall?
- Aetherial

nope

So let's say the Leafs get Anaheim's 1st for Franson...

It is now draft day and Edmonton or Buffalo is picking 1st and Leafs are picking 6th.

Would you offer, Leafs first, Anaheim's first, Leafs first in 2016, Rielly, and Nylander for the 1st overall?
- Aetherial

WHAT DAFUQ YO ?

That's a tough one. I think it's too much. If McDavid turns out to be a generational type player, nothing it too much. I he turns out to just be a star player, it would be too much.
- Champ

yeah exactly.

If he is what people think he may be, then yeah I would clean out the cupboards to get him.

If he turns out to be say, Patrick Kane, then that trade looks absolutely horrible.

The thing is, if a team wants to pry him away (and they don't have a top 4 themselves to give), it will take something like that because whoever is holding that 1st is going to be terrified of giving away the next generational talent.

Would you trade Nylander, Rielly, and your 1st for Crosby?
- Champ

No.

Considering age, and I still worry that Crosby is 1 hit away.

So let's say the Leafs get Anaheim's 1st for Franson...

It is now draft day and Edmonton or Buffalo is picking 1st and Leafs are picking 6th.

Would you offer, Leafs first, Anaheim's first, Leafs first in 2016, Rielly, and Nylander for the 1st overall?
- Aetherial

No?

worth a watch if you buy any autographed stuff
http://www.tsn.ca/video/f...it-the-name-game-1.200794

17 fakes get certified by these companies.. what a joke.
I have been to the show in toronto many times..dont buy autographed stuff... but nobody should ever imo..if you dont see it getting done.. assume its fake
- senstroll

I watched and I felt bad for what tsn and w5 did to reputatble sports company AJ Sportsworld. They went to a show where johnny bower and ted lindsey were actually signing and instead of presenting photos they just got signed by the guests they presented their own fake ones for the hologram applying process. They got ambushed and lopped in with athenticators when as far as I know they are NOT an authentication company.
I think TSN and W5 are going to have a law suit on their hands from AJ sportsworld

JSA and KSA have always been fly by night companies in my opinion though.

thats 5 firsts for Mcdavid..thats the kind of offer it would take though
- senstroll

As much as I would cream my jeans to have McDavid, I think I would rather keep Rielly and Nylander and see what these 3 other picks end up being.

You need more than one single elite generational talent to be a good team.

yeah exactly.

If he is what people think he may be, then yeah I would clean out the cupboards to get him.

If he turns out to be say, Patrick Kane, then that trade looks absolutely horrible.

The thing is, if a team wants to pry him away (and they don't have a top 4 themselves to give), it will take something like that because whoever is holding that 1st is going to be terrified of giving away the next generational talent.
- Aetherial

Imagine a generational type player in Toronto for the next 15 years!

No.

Considering age, and I still worry that Crosby is 1 hit away.
- Aetherial

If he never had a concussion history?

yeah exactly.

If he is what people think he may be, then yeah I would clean out the cupboards to get him.

If he turns out to be say, Patrick Kane, then that trade looks absolutely horrible.

The thing is, if a team wants to pry him away (and they don't have a top 4 themselves to give), it will take something like that because whoever is holding that 1st is going to be terrified of giving away the next generational talent.
- Aetherial

I think if Edmonton drafts 2nd overall, they take Hanifin over Eichel. If it's first again, then they have to take McDavid.

So, in the Leafs case, they can try to move up to 3rd overall and get Eichel.

Imagine a generational type player in Toronto for the next 15 years!
- Champ

With a poopty supporting cast, it wouldn't matter

But guys, guys. We are winning the lottery so we will have the cake and eat it too

thats 5 firsts for Mcdavid..thats the kind of offer it would take though
- senstroll

I would give up 5 firsts for him, but i'd build around him nylander and Rielly.

I watched and I felt bad for what tsn and w5 did to reputatble sports company AJ Sportsworld. They went to a show where johnny bower and ted lindsey were actually signing and instead of presenting photos they just got signed by the guests they presented their own fake ones for the hologram applying process. They got ambushed and lopped in with athenticators when as far as I know they are NOT an authentication company.

JSA and KSA have always been fly by night companies in my opinion though.
- iLive4theLeafs

Well those are the types of holes scammers abuse.. I dont feel bad for a company who slaps their sticker on something without any info or fact checking. their stamp of approval is worthless

thats 5 firsts for Mcdavid..thats the kind of offer it would take though
- senstroll

Isn't that the compensation at the top of the RFA salary bracket? (or am I imagining that?)

It is easy to say "no way" until you consider that the Leafs have never had a prospect like that.

I think I would do it. If it all blew up in my face, how could it be any worse than it is now?

If he never had a concussion history?
- Champ

Tough call. I think no. McDavid has many more years and I wonder if we have already seen Crosby's best years.

Crosby at McDavid's age, yes.

yeah exactly.

If he is what people think he may be, then yeah I would clean out the cupboards to get him.

If he turns out to be say, Patrick Kane, then that trade looks absolutely horrible.

The thing is, if a team wants to pry him away (and they don't have a top 4 themselves to give), it will take something like that because whoever is holding that 1st is going to be terrified of giving away the next generational talent.
- Aetherial

I you think about it, this has happened before. Quebec traded Lindros to Philly and Colorado went on to win 2 Stanley Cups, but they already had pieces in place. Philly built a great team around Lindros but never reached the Cup finals. Today we are in a cap world also.

Isn't that the compensation at the top of the RFA salary bracket? (or am I imagining that?)

It is easy to say "no way" until you consider that the Leafs have never had a prospect like that.

I think I would do it. If it all blew up in my face, how could it be any worse than it is now?
- Aetherial

oh I think you make the deal.
you cant get attached to your own prospects if you can get a Wayne/Mario/Lindros/Sid
they will soon make you forget about those 5 players

I you think about it, this has happened before. Quebec traded Lindros to Philly and Colorado went on to win 2 Stanley Cups, but they already had pieces in place. Philly built a great team around Lindros but never reached the Cup finals. Today we are in a cap world also.
- Champ

I was trying to come up with an epic package like Philly had to pay, but I couldn't be bothered to look up what they paid (besides Ricci, Forsberg and a whack of cash).

I just took the 5 most attractive pieces the Leafs could possibly offer.

It helps that I believe Rielly and Nylander may one day be *good* NHLers and that Anaheim's pick, and the Leafs 2016 might not be anything special.

I would give up 5 firsts for him, but i'd build around him nylander and Rielly.
- systemtool

I would make the trade but I would keep Rielly. I would move Kessel and Dion out acquire good assets to help build arround McDavid.

Isn't that the compensation at the top of the RFA salary bracket? (or am I imagining that?)

It is easy to say "no way" until you consider that the Leafs have never had a prospect like that.

I think I would do it. If it all blew up in my face, how could it be any worse than it is now?
- Aetherial

Other than Pittsburgh, what cup winner in the last few years had a generational talent on it?

They all had very good players. hell, even a couple superstars. They were well-built TEAMS that weren't contingent on just one guy.

When I think of Boston, LA, and Chicago, I think of 3-4 really good players on each of those teams, and then a solid group of supporting players.

THAT's what I want for the Leafs. Giving 5 1sts for 1 guy is just not the way to do that. You could build an entire core of very good players that way

So let's say the Leafs get Anaheim's 1st for Franson...

It is now draft day and Edmonton or Buffalo is picking 1st and Leafs are picking 6th.

Would you offer, Leafs first, Anaheim's first, Leafs first in 2016, Rielly, and Nylander for the 1st overall?
- Aetherial

No.
But Im sure buffalo woudnt take the deal anyway

Well those are the types of holes scammers abuse.. I dont feel bad for a company who slaps their sticker on something without any info or fact checking. their stamp of approval is worthless
- senstroll

I agree that the authentication process or applying of aj holos...should only be done in the same area the guest is doing the signing and only after paid ticket stubs are presented. Who's to say the tsn/w5 guy didn't present ticket stubs though and then swapped in the fakes instead of the real ones he just got signed by actual guests at that toronto show.

oh I think you make the deal.
you cant get attached to your own prospects if you can get a Wayne/Mario/Lindros/Sid
they will soon make you forget about those 5 players
- senstroll

If you break down each piece... I don't think any one of them, or two of them is even close to the value. It is entirely possible that all 5 of them are good NHL'ers one day but nowhere near the impact of a McDavid.

From Buffalo or Edmonton's point of view there is no way in hell I would take that deal from the Leafs. There is just way too much chance that you made a HORRIBLE trade.

I would make the trade but I would keep Rielly. I woul

d move Kessel and Dion out acquire good assets to help build arround McDavid.
- Champ

I might even keep Kessel to play with Mcdavid. Don't want to Oiler him. Especially if we gave up our firsts and can't tank.

No.
But Im sure buffalo woudnt take the deal anyway
- Fakepartofme

I can't see any team holding that pick taking that deal.