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Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Feb 6 @ 10:56 AM ET
This was thrown out n a different board...

Beleskey, Theodore, Gibson and conditional 2015 1st if the Ducks make it to the Conference finals (becomes a 2016 1st if not) for Myers and Neuvirth

- ImThatGuy


That is significant overpayment, I think
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 6 @ 10:56 AM ET
This was thrown out n a different board...

Beleskey, Theodore, Gibson and conditional 2015 1st if the Ducks make it to the Conference finals (becomes a 2016 1st if not) for Myers and Neuvirth

- ImThatGuy


That's beefy and actually a pretty good offer. Value is great but I'd rather have a top 6 forward prospect/young player able to get to top 6.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Feb 6 @ 10:58 AM ET
The sample trades on Hockey Hotline right now are hilarious. I know we're just kicking around ideas, but geez. Someone tweeted them this gem:

Stewart, Hodgson and a 3rd for Kane. Um, yeah....
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 6 @ 10:59 AM ET
That is significant overpayment, I think
- Slump Buster


***This was given by an Anaheim fan.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 6 @ 10:59 AM ET
This was thrown out n a different board...

Beleskey, Theodore, Gibson and conditional 2015 1st if the Ducks make it to the Conference finals (becomes a 2016 1st if not) for Myers and Neuvirth

- ImThatGuy



I can't see them dealing both Theodore and Gibson though, even if they are getting neuvirth back.


Palmieri, Kerdiles and a 1st is what i think the highest they'll offer is. The other Murray has never struck me as the kind of guy to trade his high end prospects unless he's absolutely sure they have no future with the team.
SABRES 89
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Feb 6 @ 11:00 AM ET
Do people not understand this quote from Murray.

"I am not calling teams to take him. Its going to take an overpayment to move him"

- ImThatGuy

Where did I say he called the Ducks?


sorry I don't think you were talking to me, my fault
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 6 @ 11:05 AM ET
***This was given by an Anaheim fan.
- ImThatGuy


Yup, I know. Just commenting on the likelihood of that getting done.
goalfie11
Ottawa Senators
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Joined: 07.13.2010

Feb 6 @ 11:07 AM ET
I like Nolan a lot. That nice little stretch the sabres had back in December was a Ted Nolan team. Right now though it's like "if your not laughing your crying."
What worries me for Nolan's sake is he really Tim Murray's guy? Didn't the sabres hire Nolan before Murray? They did that all backwards.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 6 @ 11:08 AM ET
I can't see them dealing both Theodore and Gibson though, even if they are getting neuvirth back.


Palmieri, Kerdiles and a 1st is what i think the highest they'll offer is. The other Murray has never struck me as the kind of guy to trade his high end prospects unless he's absolutely sure they have no future with the team.

- Sabresfan-365

switch Palmieri for Shea Theodore and I will endorse it
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 6 @ 11:12 AM ET
switch Palmieri for Shea Theodore and I will endorse it
- homiedclown



But I think they won't, that was the point of my post. They're probably trying to maximize the gap between risk/reward.
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 6 @ 11:12 AM ET
I like Nolan a lot. That nice little stretch the sabres had back in December was a Ted Nolan team. Right now though it's like "if your not laughing your crying."
What worries me for Nolan's sake is he really Tim Murray's guy? Didn't the sabres hire Nolan before Murray? They did that all backwards.

- goalfie11

Nolan resigned though after Murray took over... So Nolan could have walked and/or Murray could have let him go
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 6 @ 11:13 AM ET
I like Nolan a lot. That nice little stretch the sabres had back in December was a Ted Nolan team. Right now though it's like "if your not laughing your crying."
What worries me for Nolan's sake is he really Tim Murray's guy? Didn't the sabres hire Nolan before Murray? They did that all backwards.

- goalfie11



It really didn't matter who was the coach this year and last given what the objective was. IMO he was a PR hire and will be gone when this team starts to compete.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 6 @ 11:14 AM ET
But I think they won't, that was the point of my post. They're probably trying to maximize the gap between risk/reward.
- Sabresfan-365

I do not see enough upside w/o a player like Shea Theodore coming back
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 6 @ 11:16 AM ET
I do not see enough upside w/o a player like Shea Theodore coming back
- homiedclown



It's why i think he'll be a sabre by the end of deadline day.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 11.27.2012

Feb 6 @ 11:16 AM ET


Hat, I know you think he's poop, and on that I don't agree... nor do I agree that he's a perennial Norris candidate in the making. I just think there's no need to move him, and still think he can be something special on this team.

- nfph

I don't think he is poop nf.

I think he is a second pairing dman for sure.

I just think some here over value him but hey everyone has their opinion.

Over valuing players is done all the time, including being done myself.

Heck I feel Mike Weber is the best dman the Sabres have as an organization.

I kid ...I kid.

SABRES 89
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Feb 6 @ 11:20 AM ET
I can't see them dealing both Theodore and Gibson though, even if they are getting neuvirth back.


Palmieri, Kerdiles and a 1st is what i think the highest they'll offer is. The other Murray has never struck me as the kind of guy to trade his high end prospects unless he's absolutely sure they have no future with the team.

- Sabresfan-365

Murray won' t take prospects that aren't ready for Myers, he wants NHL player(s) IF HE DECIDES TO MOVE HIM. The media can't seem to figure that out, he has no reason to trade Myers.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 6 @ 11:21 AM ET
I like Nolan a lot. That nice little stretch the sabres had back in December was a Ted Nolan team. Right now though it's like "if your not laughing your crying."
What worries me for Nolan's sake is he really Tim Murray's guy? Didn't the sabres hire Nolan before Murray? They did that all backwards.

- goalfie11

I appreciate Nolan as well.

Read less.

Post more.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 6 @ 11:24 AM ET
I like Nolan a lot. That nice little stretch the sabres had back in December was a Ted Nolan team. Right now though it's like "if your not laughing your crying."
What worries me for Nolan's sake is he really Tim Murray's guy? Didn't the sabres hire Nolan before Murray? They did that all backwards.

- goalfie11


Meh. Im not for or against him. If he is not here it wont matter to me.
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.01.2011

Feb 6 @ 11:31 AM ET
Myers to Ducks I saw on media today. Yes Gibson is main piece we will be wanting back. Deal will not go through otherwise.

Deal was last said to be Gibson, a 2nd and another prospect for Myers
TheSabresTaco
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Feb 6 @ 11:35 AM ET
Myers to Ducks I saw on media today. Yes Gibson is main piece we will be wanting back. Deal will not go through otherwise.

Deal was last said to be Gibson, a 2nd and another prospect for Myers

- Beezer33


Preach it Beezie.
Watchtower62
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Utica, NY
Joined: 03.03.2009

Feb 6 @ 11:36 AM ET
Myers to Ducks I saw on media today. Yes Gibson is main piece we will be wanting back. Deal will not go through otherwise.

Deal was last said to be Gibson, a 2nd and another prospect for Myers

- Beezer33




FOR REALLLLLLLLLZZZZ?!?!?!?!?!?!
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 6 @ 11:37 AM ET
Myers to Ducks I saw on media today. Yes Gibson is main piece we will be wanting back. Deal will not go through otherwise.

Deal was last said to be Gibson, a 2nd and another prospect for Myers

- Beezer33


Not JVR for Schenn

Schenn and JVR traded

Ott is not going to STL.

Ott traded to STl.












SABRES 89
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Feb 6 @ 11:37 AM ET
Myers to Ducks I saw on media today. Yes Gibson is main piece we will be wanting back. Deal will not go through otherwise.

Deal was last said to be Gibson, a 2nd and another prospect for Myers

- Beezer33

Why would they deal Myers for a goalie and a prospect? last I heard they want a NHL ready scoring winger in return.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 6 @ 11:39 AM ET
Why would they deal Myers for a goalie and a prospect? last I heard they want a NHL ready scoring winger in return.
- SABRES 89


Let's add to the pile.

@renlavoietva "The Sabres are looking at another D in return, the name (I'm hearing) is Cam Fowler"

His role has been reduced, and is a less aggressive version of Vatanen. I entirely see it possible to obtain another decent piece with Fowler.
SABRES 89
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Feb 6 @ 11:40 AM ET
Let's add to the pile.

@renlavoietva "The Sabres are looking at another D in return, the name (I'm hearing) is Cam Fowler"

- TheSabresTaco

I love the media, they are funny.
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