It's good to see familiar faces on the main page. It's usually full of degenerates.

Luongo would have been perfect for TO. I believe the offer was two 2nd round picks? But from what has been said he didn't want to go. Really wasn't my call.

I decided to take the low road with the Clarkson comment. When you are lost for words when talking to leaf fan, one can always fall back to an easy out; Clarkson. Thank god for Nonis.
- bloatedmosquito

He is the gift that keeps on giving ... to every other fan base except ours.

Most fan bases have a major derp that is always there for other fans to target. The Leafs have a few right now. Ugh.

More than what we would have got from the leafs.

Hell, Markstrom is a better goalie than either of the two quifs the leafs have in net now.

Matthias has better numbers than Clarkson at a quarter of the salary and half the playing time so I guess the trade wasn't too bad afterall.
- bloatedmosquito

leave to a flying insect to respond to troll poop!

hopefully that treble hook doesn't leave too deep a gash in your lip.

It's good to see familiar faces on the main page. It's usually full of degenerates.

Luongo would have been perfect for TO. I believe the offer was two 2nd round picks? But from what has been said he didn't want to go. Really wasn't my call.

I decided to take the low road with the Clarkson comment. When you are lost for words when talking to leaf fan, one can always fall back to an easy out; Clarkson. Thank god for Nonis.
- bloatedmosquito

Actually, remember the season leading up to Clarkson's UFA year... there were a LOT of people who thought he would be perfect for their team. He was viewed as a really physical, gritty, heart and soul guy who could score a little.

It was only after he signed a ridiculous contract and then completely shat the bed that people's attitude changed. There was a market out there for him and I bet there are a few GMs who breathed a sigh of relief over the last couple years.

Toronto for Kadri and Lupul
- Bieksa#3

They can keep Kane..............I'd rather have Ehlers & Morrisey

They can keep Kane..............I'd rather have Ehlers & Morrisey
- JustHockeyTalk

that aint happening

Kadri alone has more value
- jake24242

Actually, remember the season leading up to Clarkson's UFA year... there were a LOT of people who thought he would be perfect for their team. He was viewed as a really physical, gritty, heart and soul guy who could score a little.

It was only after he signed a ridiculous contract and then completely shat the bed that people's attitude changed. There was a market out there for him and I bet there are a few GMs who breathed a sigh of relief over the last couple years.
- Aetherial

I think the first part of your post is bang on, the second part however, I do not believe to be entirely correct.

Clarkson could be viewed be alot of teams as a guy that could help them. Especially before his dreadful season last year, teams were definetely interested.

However, many here (and probably many GM's out there) were completely baffled when he signed his contract, even before he played a single game with the Leafs. So sure, there was a market for him and maybe other teams did throw a similar offer at him... but any team that did is just as crazy and stupid as Dave Nonis was.

WPG doesn't need D
- VANTEL

Ennis Grigorenko and a 1st

would you do kadri for kane i wouldn't...
- BoTtLePoLiCe

as fast as humanly possible and hopefully push it through before Winipeg realizes what a horrible mistake they've made.

well - now here's the thing...

Robidas would be playing for Kings as the 6th dman likely (at least now with Voynov out).... and Richards has five more years left on his 5.75M contract, Robidas only 2 more years.

so what does LA give up which would be reasonable?
what does Toronto legitimately ask for?

does LA keep paying $1.5 of Richards CAP... would probably make sense - if not then LA would have to add the equivalent of a decent 2-3M$ roster player for it to make sense - or someone with upside.
- BorjeFan4Ever

Who in the kings line up is robidas gonna bump? Remember if Robidas retires the cap hit still exists till the contract expires

Actually, remember the season leading up to Clarkson's UFA year... there were a LOT of people who thought he would be perfect for their team. He was viewed as a really physical, gritty, heart and soul guy who could score a little.

It was only after he signed a ridiculous contract and then completely shat the bed that people's attitude changed. There was a market out there for him and I bet there are a few GMs who breathed a sigh of relief over the last couple years.
- Aetherial

I totally agree with you. Clarkson was and still is a good player. Perfect piece for a contender. But that ridiculous contract guaranteed failure no matter his impact.

I always thought of Nonis' failure to trade for Luongo and the signing of Clarkson as related.

Luongo on the leafs would have provided them with a true #1 goalie, who was a known commodity, at a low cap hit, low salary, and any penalties that may occur from his contract would be absorbed mostly by the canucks. Incredibly low risk. And think of the exposure with the tandem of Strombone and the leaf's marketing department. King of twitter.

Any concerns surrounding Lu was due to that contract. And then Nonis hands out an even worse contract to Clarkson. Mind blowing.

In all honesty, who would have made a bigger impact on the leafs; Lu or Clarkson?

And how the f does toronto get myers and wpg 2015 1st rounder for jvr!!!!OMFG lets be real here
- jmdodgeser4

Agreed, anyone who thinks differently is listening to Glenn Healy too much.
- Canuckleafer

Don't disagree but unless its a (bad) salary swap situation, there are almost no teams with the need for Dion nor the cap space. He'd be fine in a 2nd pairing but its a steep price for that. Sorry I think you guys have him for some time...

leave to a flying insect to respond to troll poop!

hopefully that treble hook doesn't leave too deep a gash in your lip.
- BorjeFan4Ever

I don't know but the treble hook I threw into your sister last night left a gash in her lip.

I totally agree with you. Clarkson was and still is a good player. Perfect piece for a contender. But that ridiculous contract guaranteed failure no matter his impact.

I always thought of Nonis' failure to trade for Luongo and the signing of Clarkson as related.

Luongo on the leafs would have provided them with a true #1 goalie, who was a known commodity, at a low cap hit, low salary, and any penalties that may occur from his contract would be absorbed mostly by the canucks. Incredibly low risk. And think of the exposure with the tandem of Strombone and the leaf's marketing department. King of twitter.

Any concerns surrounding Lu was due to that contract. And then Nonis hands out an even worse contract to Clarkson. Mind blowing.

In all honesty, who would have made a biggest impact on the leafs; Lu or Clarkson?
- bloatedmosquito

Luongo no question but that contract was hell.

He would look a helluva lot better than Bernier or Reimer do and he actually would have been one of the few Leafs who was actually a likeable player.

I totally agree with you. Clarkson was and still is a good player. Perfect piece for a contender. But that ridiculous contract guaranteed failure no matter his impact.

I always thought of Nonis' failure to trade for Luongo and the signing of Clarkson as related.

Luongo on the leafs would have provided them with a true #1 goalie, who was a known commodity, at a low cap hit, low salary, and any penalties that may occur from his contract would be absorbed mostly by the canucks. Incredibly low risk. And think of the exposure with the tandem of Strombone and the leaf's marketing department. King of twitter.

Any concerns surrounding Lu was due to that contract. And then Nonis hands out an even worse contract to Clarkson. Mind blowing.

In all honesty, who would have made a biggest impact on the leafs; Lu or Clarkson?
- bloatedmosquito

I think burn will back me up here. I wanted bozak, and gunnersson for him. And honestly I think if gillis would have asked that in the first place Burke would have done it.

Who in the kings line up is robidas gonna bump? Remember if Robidas retires the cap hit still exists till the contract expires
- Bieksa#3

who cares about any of this?

I'm sure LA would be much happier to bury Robidas in the minors or buy him out rather than Richards.

You're just writing diarrhea.

who cares about any of this?

I'm sure LA would be much happier to bury Robidas in the minors or buy him out rather than Richards.

You're just writing diarrhea.
- Tumbleweed

Can't buy out a 35+. Even if you bury him entire cap hit counts. Richards would be 3rd line on toronto

So a guy with 0 managnent expieriance and 0 scouting expieriance is running your team? Why don't they just let fans pay to be gn for the day? It would make as much sense
- Bieksa#3

first bold, must be a typo...

second bold.......

first bold, must be a typo...

second bold.......
- SpoiledByOil

Believe it or not my galaxy phone corrected that

Luongo no question but that contract was hell.

He would look a helluva lot better than Bernier or Reimer do and he actually would have been one of the few Leafs who was actually a likeable player.
- Aetherial

No question, Lu's contract stinks. But if a team is going to be stuck with a bad contract (and with consideration to the player who's attached to that bad contract), which one of the two players would you rather have as a leaf fan?

With the contract penalties the canucks retain in the trade I don't think there's even a question about it.

Can't buy out a 35+. Even if you bury him entire cap hit counts. Richards would be 3rd line on toronto
- Bieksa#3

buried would still be less of a cap hit than richards, and for less years. i'll take your word on the buyout.

if nonis' goal is to lock up his 3rd line to long-term deals and have the highest paid 3rd line in the league, than yes, Richards would be a good fit for 3rd line in Toronto.

Reality is, no way anybody is helping LA get out of cap hell.

who cares about any of this?

I'm sure LA would be much happier to bury Robidas in the minors or buy him out rather than Richards.

You're just writing diarrhea.
- Tumbleweed

what the hell are you gonna do with a richards?

No question, Lu's contract stinks. But if a team is going to be stuck with a bad contract (and with consideration to the player who's attached to that bad contract), which one of the two players would you rather have as a leaf fan?

With the contract penalties the canucks retain in the trade I don't think there's even a question about it.
- bloatedmosquito

Yep lu for 8 yrs or clarkson for 7. Plus you wouldn't have to pay bernier the insane contract he's gonna get. Canucks pay penalties.
Personally I think no nuts hate/jealousy for taking his job) of Gilles get in the way of his better judgement(assuming he does have better judgment)

sedin is on his way out and Kadri has lots of years left;
who needs the helmet
- explorer

you most definitely need the helmet in this case. How you can even mention Kadri in comparison to Sedin is beyond laughable.