Where can you find his production for 3.75 mil per that s available?
- Brianandr1

Perron is cheaper, and Hornqvist is only 400k more. They are both better offensive players.

SJ would be idiotic to do that.

But by all means YES YES YES!
- nbartley9

Figured you would be all for that.

im surprised they couldnt get richards for sutter and have la retain some cash but i guess tot hem thats basically a wash, actually sutter probably doesnt want sutter playing for him hahahah

And we come back to my female doging again at not testing Spaling at center
- Guile

He's played there very very rarely with all the injuries that have happened.. He's been bounced around like a tennis ball. I'm sure they know a little of what they have in Spaling at center just from practices and the center getting tossed out of the face off circle where he would have to step in

You can't match it for cost this season.... The argument is the fear of him being done after this season, and having 2 dead weight seasons... or same after next year, 1 dead weight season. So trade him for near the same production at a bit higher cost, but a younger player... something along those lines, is the reasoning.
- Guile

He's 35... signed for two more years... i dont doubt that by 2017 we might see some decline.. but even its 20 percent he would still be producing 20g/50 points... If they move him it would have to be in a package bringing back a young high end talent.

im surprised they couldnt get richards for sutter and have la retain some cash but i guess tot hem thats basically a wash, actually sutter probably doesnt want sutter playing for him hahahah
- JLT168

I wouldn't touch Richards if I were a GM.. Way too much term left in that contract, which is why no one even picked him up for free

Perron is cheaper, and Hornqvist is only 400k more. They are both better offensive players.
- cap1681

Agreed on Horny, the numbers suggest Kunitz is better then Perron, but its close and Perron is alot younger.

yep they sure did, so of course its possible hes just unhappy playing in the peg, that wouldnt be an easy place to live during hockey season...I hear ya that dumo is an expendable asset, and I agree, but I would still want a lower pick or mid level forward prospect

if you think about winny they are a tough strong team to play against, does adding sutter and bennet make them a better/stronger team to play against? no it sure as hell doesnt...

if arco is our 3rd line center going into the playoffs we wont be going far
- JLT168

All true. Which is why I think JR would be a magician if it happened

Agreed on Horny, the numbers suggest Kunitz is better then Perron, but its close and Perron is alot younger.
- Brianandr1

Perron hasn't had the benefit of a real Center the last few years... I don't think anyone here would disagree in saying Perron should out perform Kunitz being with Crosby or Malkin now.

Perron hasn't had the benefit of a real Center the last few years... I don't think anyone here would disagree in saying Perron should out perform Kunitz being with Crosby or Malkin now.
- Guile

Top six of Crosby, Horny, Malkin, Perron, Kunitz, ? should be among the best in the league... I don't see why they dont keep all of them

Top six of Crosby, Horny, Malkin, Perron, Kunitz, ? should be among the best in the league... I don't see why they dont keep all of them
- Brianandr1

That is 5 of 6 btw...

However, if you consider it an even trade point wise, between Kunitz and E Kane, then you should make that trade. You get younger and more physical, and after this season, we will have more cap room with Martin and or Ehrhoff not returning. All you do is have more number crunching blehhh this season.

Top six of Crosby, Horny, Malkin, Perron, Kunitz, ? should be among the best in the league... I don't see why they dont keep all of them
- Brianandr1

Yes, those five players are certainly the best top six in the hockey.

Top six of Crosby, Horny, Malkin, Perron, Kunitz, ? should be among the best in the league... I don't see why they dont keep all of them
- Brianandr1

they probably will, so I dont think you have much to worry about.

I dont get the impression everyone here is saying trade kunitz, but what were saying is that he is a piece that would need to be included if we were going to try and bring in a top 6...i don believe any combination of sutter and bennet gets much done unless pouliot is involved and jr said he isnt fair game(and I know that isnt as black and white as it sounds) but chances are we arent trading away pouliot unless its something huge coming back

they probably will, so I dont think you have much to worry about.

I dont get the impression everyone here is saying trade kunitz, but what were saying is that he is a piece that would need to be included if we were going to try and bring in a top 6...i don believe any combination of sutter and bennet gets much done unless pouliot is involved and jr said he isnt fair game(and I know that isnt as black and white as it sounds) but chances are we arent trading away pouliot unless its something huge coming back
- JLT168

Im listening if Kane is coming back

they probably will, so I dont think you have much to worry about.

I dont get the impression everyone here is saying trade kunitz, but what were saying is that he is a piece that would need to be included if we were going to try and bring in a top 6...i don believe any combination of sutter and bennet gets much done unless pouliot is involved and jr said he isnt fair game(and I know that isnt as black and white as it sounds) but chances are we arent trading away pouliot unless its something huge coming back
- JLT168

I am ABSOLUTELY AGAINST trading Kunitz... but there are always exceptions to this rule.

I view E Kane as James Neal with more potential, a set of balls, and better skating ability. I also am realistic and know that Kunitz and Sutter might not even be enough for E Kane, so I could toss in Harrington (I view Harrington and Dumoulin's value as the same, but I hate Harrington).

Im listening if Kane is coming back
- Brianandr1

yep exactly

pouliot(maybe harrington or dumo here), sutterd, kunitz for kane and their 1st or maybe 2nd or a high end prospect(if it is harrington or dumo id take a 3rd)

then bennet and dumo/harrington for wingels and a low pick
then that low pick and something from next year for winnik

hahaha thats a lot of trading, clearly thats not going to happen...
but kane wingels and winnik makes us a much better team

I am ABSOLUTELY AGAINST trading Kunitz... but there are always exceptions to this rule.

I view E Kane as James Neal with more potential, a set of balls, and better skating ability. I also am realistic and know that Kunitz and Sutter might not even be enough for E Kane, so I could toss in Harrington (I view Harrington and Dumoulin's value as the same, but I hate Harrington).
- Guile

kane also isnt a pssy like neal, kane would fight anyone, neal will only knee them in the back of their head when they are down looking the other way

granted im fine with kneeing marchand in the back of his rat head

kane also isnt a pssy like neal, kane would fight anyone, neal will only knee them in the back of their head when they are down looking the other way

granted im fine with kneeing marchand in the back of his rat head
- JLT168

I don't view Kane's fighting as a perk... its good that he won't back down, much rather have balls than no balls, but Kane fighting takes a top 6 player off the ice for 5 minutes. He is a target for other team's 3rd and 4th line instigators, which isn't ideal.

i still think either of the coyotes centers would be an absolute perfect fit for this team.

i just wish we had something they actually needed.

id move pouliot in a deal for hanzal.

Or Cleveland, Baltimore or Detroit. One of those
- dbell646

Possibly when he was about to open the closet door (from the inside) .

i still think either of the coyotes centers would be an absolute perfect fit for this team.

i just wish we had something they actually needed.

id move pouliot in a deal for hanzal.
- stayinthefnnet

i still think either of the coyotes centers would be an absolute perfect fit for this team.

i just wish we had something they actually needed.

id move pouliot in a deal for hanzal.
- stayinthefnnet

hanzal is hurt as much as bennett...i say ehhh

I don't view Kane's fighting as a perk... its good that he won't back down, much rather have balls than no balls, but Kane fighting takes a top 6 player off the ice for 5 minutes. He is a target for other team's 3rd and 4th line instigators, which isn't ideal.
- Guile

I hear ya, our top 6 guys need to be on the ice not in the box, but when someone cheap shots tanger or sid or geno, and they arent scared of lappy or downie, they will probably know kane is coming for em...

- nh4442

i really think youre underestimating hanzal and how much he would fit like a glove, not only due to team needs, but due to the fact that he has term left on a pretty cheap deal.

I don't view Kane's fighting as a perk... its good that he won't back down, much rather have balls than no balls, but Kane fighting takes a top 6 player off the ice for 5 minutes. He is a target for other team's 3rd and 4th line instigators, which isn't ideal.
- Guile

He'd be the type of guy you want in a 7 game series against philly or the isles