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JLT168
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PGH, PA
Joined: 07.09.2012

Feb 4 @ 2:40 PM ET
Hey now! Beau has really nice hair!
- nbartley9

in that case he belongs in california, maybe he could be the next ms. california
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Feb 4 @ 2:42 PM ET
in that case he belongs in california, maybe he could be the next ms. california
- JLT168

Haha now we are talking.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Feb 4 @ 2:42 PM ET
http://nhllotterysimulator.com/
- cap1681

saw that. Imagine if the Kings actually won that
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Feb 4 @ 2:42 PM ET
Since the biggest issue in the proposed Kane trades is cap space, would retroactively putting Ehrhoff on LTIR temporarily free enough space to add Kane with the assumption that they would have to salary dump somebody before Ehrhoff came back around the deadline?
- Rawdog9755


I don't think so, maybe if he's out for the season... but if it's 2 months or so then we only get the daily cap hit until the break. Someone correct me.

But Kane only would cost us 3 million now halfway through. We have give or take a million free. Add the Bennet, Dumoulin, Sutter and we have more than enough. Not sure if Dumoulin counts as cap going out though.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Feb 4 @ 2:43 PM ET
Haha now we are talking.
- nbartley9

You guys are Richards. Tell me who photobombs better then Beau? Seriously keep this guy
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 4 @ 2:43 PM ET
I am the one with the Brak avatar!

F Sutter

- PensFanRVA

excellent taste in avatar, sir

please sing us that tune about the three hams
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Feb 4 @ 2:43 PM ET
saw that. Imagine if the Kings actually won that
- dbell646


I was just thinking the same thing...
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 4 @ 2:45 PM ET
Hah I picked you out right away; nice beard.
- nbartley9

tyvm, it's rather subdued at the moment tho
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Feb 4 @ 2:47 PM ET
I was just thinking the same thing...
- znagle

Kopitar, Carter, McDavid down the middle holy poop would that be scary
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Feb 4 @ 2:49 PM ET
Kopitar, Carter, McDavid down the middle holy poop would that be scary
- dbell646


Yup, Kopitar would be a great mentor (like McDavid even needs one) but he is a great two way guy to learn from.
Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 12.28.2013

Feb 4 @ 2:53 PM ET
Trading Kunitz is a possibility because a) his value will never be higher, b) Perron lessens the blow, and c) the cap space gives the Penguins room to find a top 6 rental (maybe 68). Having Kunitz's cap hit off the books over the next few years wouldn't hurt either. Hate to see him go, but it's something to consider.
- cap1681

??? The Pens are having trouble scoring goals, but they should trade one of their best offessive players??? i don't get it
PensFanRVA
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Richmond, VA
Joined: 04.02.2013

Feb 4 @ 2:54 PM ET
excellent taste in avatar, sir

please sing us that tune about the three hams

- BulliesPhan87



Three hams will kill him.....
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Feb 4 @ 2:54 PM ET
??? The Pens are having trouble scoring goals, but they should trade one of their best offessive players??? i don't get it
- Brianandr1

Oh boy, who rattled the cage??
JLT168
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PGH, PA
Joined: 07.09.2012

Feb 4 @ 2:55 PM ET
??? The Pens are having trouble scoring goals, but they should trade one of their best offessive players??? i don't get it
- Brianandr1


the attributes that makes kunitz an offensive force are fading away...hes got a quick release at this point going for him, and going to the net...im pretty sure some of us could have 60 points a year playing with sid...remember warren young with mario, he was awful, still scored 50 goals in a season

im not saying I want to trade kunitz, but if thats what it took to bring in some better talent then I say why wait

I could see the peg wanting kunitz back in return if there was any chance of us getting kane
Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 12.28.2013

Feb 4 @ 2:58 PM ET
the attributes that makes kunitz an offensive force are fading away...hes got a quick release at this point going for him, and going to the net...im pretty sure some of us could have 60 points a year playing with sid...remember warren young with mario, he was awful, still scored 50 goals in a season
- JLT168

His stats have not declined at all and the Pens PP was at its best early in the season with Kunitz and Horny in front with Malkin... Crosby and Tanger...

The bigger issue is who are you geting in return at that cap hit???
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Feb 4 @ 2:59 PM ET
??? The Pens are having trouble scoring goals, but they should trade one of their best offessive players??? i don't get it
- Brianandr1


I'd put him as the Penguins 6th or 7th best offensive player.........He's good, but not untouchable.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Feb 4 @ 2:59 PM ET
His stats have not declined at all and the Pens PP was at its best early in the season with Kunitz and Horny in front with Malkin... Crosby and Tanger...

The bigger issue is who are you geting in return at that cap hit???

- Brianandr1



How about Kunitz and Sutter, for E Kane? :D
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Feb 4 @ 3:00 PM ET
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Russ-Cohen/Tanner-Glass-How-Does-He-Still-Have-a-Roster-Spot/135/66088

No point in a graph, It'll just be like this...




Fin hilarious

edit: reuploaded since it bugged out and died on the last link

- Guile

JLT168
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PGH, PA
Joined: 07.09.2012

Feb 4 @ 3:01 PM ET
How about Kunitz and Sutter, for E Kane? :D
- Guile


kunitz dumo and sutter for kane and a pick maybe

maybe kunitz beau and dumo for kane and low pick?

sutter for wingels?

Id have a hard time not doing those deals...i think wingels probably has more value then sutter, could be wrong...

i think I and all of us would be extremely surprised if we got kane or eberle, or any other premier talent that is out there right now...
Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 12.28.2013

Feb 4 @ 3:01 PM ET
I'd put him as the Penguins 6th or 7th best offensive player.........He's good, but not untouchable.
- cap1681

Where can you find his production for 3.75 mil per that s available?
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Feb 4 @ 3:02 PM ET
How about Kunitz and Sutter, for E Kane? :D
- Guile


See, now I can get on board with that as much as I want to keep Kunitz.

Only problem that poses is now we need a 3c unless they start playing Spaling at center.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Feb 4 @ 3:03 PM ET
Where can you find his production for 3.75 mil per that s available?
- Brianandr1



You can't match it for cost this season.... The argument is the fear of him being done after this season, and having 2 dead weight seasons... or same after next year, 1 dead weight season. So trade him for near the same production at a bit higher cost, but a younger player... something along those lines, is the reasoning.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Feb 4 @ 3:03 PM ET
kunitz dumo and sutter for kane and a pick maybe

maybe kunitz beau and dumo for kane and low pick?

sutter for wingels?

Id have a hard time not doing those deals...i think wingels probably has more value then sutter, could be wrong...

i think I and all of us would be extremely surprised if we got kane or eberle, or any other premier talent that is out there right now...

- JLT168

SJ would be idiotic to do that.

But by all means YES YES YES!
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Feb 4 @ 3:03 PM ET
kunitz dumo and sutter for kane and a pick maybe

maybe kunitz beau and dumo for kane and low pick?

sutter for wingels?

Id have a hard time not doing those deals...i think wingels probably has more value then sutter, could be wrong...

i think I and all of us would be extremely surprised if we got kane or eberle, or any other premier talent that is out there right now...

- JLT168


Do the first, then send the pick with Sutter for Wingels if the price is too low
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Feb 4 @ 3:03 PM ET
See, now I can get on board with that as much as I want to keep Kunitz.

Only problem that poses is now we need a 3c unless they start playing Spaling at center.

- znagle



And we come back to my female doging again at not testing Spaling at center
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