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Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 2 @ 11:57 AM ET
Even if it's guys like Grossmann or Coburn the extra year on the deal can be a hassle, given the instability of the CDN dollar. Can a team commit to another season of Grossmann at $3.5mm or Coburn at $4.5mm if the cap only goes up $2.5mm?

Before the inane cap panic posts, this is a real concern in a league where 10-12 teams have been utilizing LTIR for long stretches this season.

- Jsaquella

So they are going to be stuck with same mediocre D next year?

I guess in 2017 we may see significant changes.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Feb 2 @ 11:59 AM ET
If thats the case it might be worth considering. I just dont think its worth Simmonds, Schenn and Couts.... I would try a package of Schenn, Ghost and a 1st.
- GOA88


I'd rather do schenn and Simmonds to get it done. Throw in a pick if we have to. maybe a 2nd? idk. I'd like to keep ghost if we can. Imagine OEL on a pairing with ghost or morin.... god that'd be sweet. I've been thinking of this for a few days if you couldn't tell.... lol
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Feb 2 @ 12:01 PM ET
I'd rather do schenn and Simmonds to get it done. Throw in a pick if we have to. maybe a 2nd? idk. I'd like to keep ghost if we can. Imagine OEL on a pairing with ghost or morin.... god that'd be sweet. I've been thinking of this for a few days if you couldn't tell.... lol
- benjichronic

OEL sounds nice and all but I would rather just build through the draft. Be patient. The overall team would be better and have more depth.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 2 @ 12:03 PM ET
Supernatural though
- Giroux_Is_God




jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 2 @ 12:05 PM ET
OEL sounds nice and all but I would rather just build through the draft. Be patient. The overall team would be better and have more depth.
- GOA88

AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 2 @ 12:11 PM ET
Screen-capped buyout numbers:


- bradleyc4


I barely even talk about that dude anymore, because he's gonna be a Flyer for years to come

No getting around that poop
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 2 @ 12:15 PM ET
Helene Elliott ‏@helenenothelen 22h22 hours ago
Jeff Schultz will accompany Kings to White House on Monday. Mike Richards declined invite

- PhillySportsGuy


Glad to see his maturity level has improved

/sarcasm button activated
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 2 @ 12:19 PM ET
More like implode. No way the Flyers are even winning 20 more games this season. IMO
- GOA88


Your opinion, my opinion, and reality.

A team that has 22 wins in 51 games isn't winning 20 times in the next 31 games

That just ain't happening. But what can happen is solidification of the roster and good/continued development of some of the younger players
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Feb 2 @ 12:19 PM ET
Glad to see his maturity level has improved

/sarcasm button activated

- AllInForFlyers

I guess.... maybe he has conflicting political views. Personally I would decline to visit Barack Obama... Nothing against the great USA, just dont agree with this current faction.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Feb 2 @ 12:21 PM ET
Your opinion, my opinion, and reality.

A team that has 22 wins in 51 games isn't winning 20 times in the next 31 games

That just ain't happening. But what can happen is solidification of the roster and good/continued development of some of the younger players

- AllInForFlyers

Thats all I'm really looking for. Hopefully dump some of the dead weight also.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 2 @ 12:22 PM ET
I guess.... maybe he has conflicting political views. Personally I would decline to visit Barack Obama... Nothing against the great USA, just dont agree with this current faction.
- GOA88


That's fine, but it's not a political visit. It's recognition for an honor that the team that is paying you millions of dollars earned.

Hell, the guy's Canadian. What, do his politics demand there be a Prime Minister and a House of Commons?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 2 @ 12:22 PM ET
I usually agree with you, but this time even I have to at this statement.
- MBFlyerfan

*circles calendar date in red*
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Feb 2 @ 12:24 PM ET
That's fine, but it's not a political visit. It's recognition for an honor that the team that is paying you millions of dollars earned.

Hell, the guy's Canadian. What, do his politics demand there be a Prime Minister and a House of Commons?

- AllInForFlyers

Well, no. I'm saying its more or less what Tim Thomas did. I dont have a problem with it. Thats his choice....why be like everyone else just for the sake of being like everyone else?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 2 @ 12:24 PM ET
*circles calendar date in red*
- Flyskippy

well this is an unexpected arrival
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 2 @ 12:24 PM ET
Thats all I'm really looking for. Hopefully dump some of the dead weight also.
- GOA88


Anything they can do with even one of those contracts we all know and hate will help
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 2 @ 12:24 PM ET
Agreed. Especially when the talent level isn't exactly a rarity. There's a lot of guys out there who can do what MacDonald does. The Flyers decided to pay him a premium for that level of ability.

I'd love to sit here and not criticize the Flyers. The trouble is, they're paying $75mm in salary for a 22nd place team. Want to ignore or downplay the stats? Fine. Look at wins and losses. The highest payroll in the league for a bottom third team in the standings.

That's the bottom line.

- Jsaquella

Indeed.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 2 @ 12:25 PM ET
well this is an unexpected arrival
- BulliesPhan87



Long time, no see!
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Feb 2 @ 12:26 PM ET
Anything they can do with even one of those contracts we all know and hate will help
- AllInForFlyers

My wish list.... considering the reality of the situation.

1. Trade Coburn
2. Trade Grossmann
3. Trade Vinny
4. Trade Umberger
5. Trade Amac
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 2 @ 12:27 PM ET
Your opinion, my opinion, and reality.

A team that has 22 wins in 51 games isn't winning 20 times in the next 31 games

That just ain't happening. But what can happen is solidification of the roster and good/continued development of some of the younger players

- AllInForFlyers

I guess I just don't know who these younger players are. We have 5 players under 25 and at least one have them has hit his ceiling and that's pretty much a basement ceiling. I haven't seen any positive growth this season under the current management on the NHL roster.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 2 @ 12:27 PM ET
Really? Got a link?


NM here is one.

http://www.nj.com/flyers/...ffer_to_join_los_ang.html

- MBFlyerfan

Too bad he's not American so they can turn this into a political story, too.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Feb 2 @ 12:28 PM ET
I dont have money until next pay on account i bought my buss pass and paid up my room and board to the dragon lady
Shev rEaly tough and will kick you without any warning
I keep all my stuff in garbage bags just in case
I have 4 houses to extermination today so if i see any jewels hanging around

- GodIsaCatholic


you tell her if she touches you again she's gonna have to go through me
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 2 @ 12:29 PM ET
I guess I just don't know who these younger players are. We have 5 players under 25 and at least one have them has hit his ceiling and that's pretty much a basement ceiling. I haven't seen any positive growth this season under the current management on the NHL roster.
- mayorofangrytown

Adam Hall's absence hurts the PK and the faceoffs that must be taken in the defensive zone are now handled by a guy Chief insists must improve offensively but only recently has his offensive zone starts outnumbered his defensive ones (Couturier). Still, Couts is en route to his best season yet.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 2 @ 12:29 PM ET
I guess I just don't know who these younger players are. We have 5 players under 25 and at least one have them has hit his ceiling and that's pretty much a basement ceiling. I haven't seen any positive growth this season under the current management on the NHL roster.
- mayorofangrytown


Why must your words hurt me so?


AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 2 @ 12:30 PM ET
My wish list.... considering the reality of the situation.

1. Trade Coburn
2. Trade Grossmann
3. Trade Vinny
4. Trade Umberger
5. Trade Amac

- GOA88


FWIW, I do think that's the order things would have to go
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 2 @ 12:31 PM ET
You guys buYers orc sellars?
- GodIsaCatholic

The orc sellars are in World of Warcraft.

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