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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jan 31 @ 10:37 AM ET
I'm not good at tanking. I still want them to win
- Jsaquella



Totally Agree!!!!!!!!!!!

ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Jan 31 @ 10:44 AM ET
Totally Agree!!!!!!!!!!!
- puckhead17

I'm used to watching the Leafs lose, so im okay with tanking. Go philly!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 31 @ 10:48 AM ET
I'm not good at tanking. I still want them to win
- Jsaquella


With the 13th selection in the 2015 draft the Philadelphia flyers select...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 31 @ 10:48 AM ET
With the 13 selection in the 2015 draft the Philadelphia flyers select...
- Just5


Not after they trade it for OEL
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 31 @ 10:51 AM ET
With the 13th selection in the 2015 draft the Philadelphia flyers select...
- Just5


Timo Meier or Oliver Kylington
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jan 31 @ 10:55 AM ET
Not after they trade it for OEL
- Jsaquella


You beat me to it on that one.
Was thinking, (dreaming), the same thing.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jan 31 @ 10:57 AM ET
With the 13th selection in the 2015 draft the Philadelphia flyers select...
- Just5


The Flyers trade their 13th selection, Ducks 30th, selection, and tHe Wings 22nd selection to the Oilers for their 1st pick

( ducks and wings picks acquired for Coburn and Sreit)
Mr_Clean
Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB
Joined: 08.09.2010

Jan 31 @ 11:00 AM ET
shut up please, sir
- BulliesPhan87



Saying that felt like chewing and swallowing two and a half pounds of broken glass which, if you've never tried it, tends to be a bit unpleasant on an empty stomach.

I apologize. But for the sake of all that's good in this world, can it at least be a 3-pt game?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 31 @ 11:03 AM ET
Not after they trade it for OEL
- Jsaquella

If he really is available Hexy needs to find a way to make that deal. Getting OEL and retaining 3 of our 4 top D prospects will have this D group looking really good over the next few years.

I think my max offer would be something like the lotto pick, Coots and Hagg. I think other teams would have a hard time bettering that offer.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jan 31 @ 11:04 AM ET
"trap" game hey? I don't know Bill I think your giving too much undue credit to this team
- Just5


1-0 TO win. Book it.

The game winner scored by Petter Granberg, with the assists from Trevor Smith and Korbinian Holzer.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jan 31 @ 11:07 AM ET
If he really is available Hexy needs to find a way to make that deal. Getting OEL and retaining 3 of our 4 top D prospects will have this D group looking really good over the next few years.

I think my max offer would be something like the lotto pick, Coots and Hagg. I think other teams would have a hard time bettering that offer.

- hereticpride


Couts Haag, & a middle first pick, for a #1 D man?

I think the conversation would start, & end with Morin.
Giving up Couts creates a big hole up front.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 31 @ 11:09 AM ET
The Flyers trade their 13th selection, Ducks 30th, selection, and tHe Wings 22nd selection to the Oilers for their 1st pick

( ducks and wings picks acquired for Coburn and Sreit)

- 3flyerkids


Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 31 @ 11:12 AM ET
Couts Haag, & a middle first pick, for a #1 D man?

I think the conversation would start, & end with Morin.
Giving up Couts creates a big hole up front.

- puckhead17


I'd offer Simmonds, Brayden Schenn, Morin and a 1st in 2016 right now for OEL and a pick/prospect. OEL is a 23 year old franchise defenseman level guy
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 31 @ 11:13 AM ET
Thanks Bill. What is your opinion of Straka so far? He recorded his first point the other night, and I didn't see any glaring mistakes.
The Phantoms loss makes me question what they were thinking. I just hope that they aren't picking up the bad habits of the Flyers. If so, is this the next generation's mind set? Better put up those cell phones, and start focusing on hockey.
Anyway, I hope that Straka does well at this level. I also, hope that McD can pick up his game tonight. I don't know if it's new team jitters or he is just having an off season this season.

- OrangeAndBlack1



I haven't seen the phantoms play much but Hershey is a top AHL team and looking at the Phantoms, they have lost Laughton, Straka (just recently of course), Alt and Ghost. that is a lot of talent to lose for a borderline team. Considering where they have been over the last several years, this year's team is a real step up in talent and level of play.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jan 31 @ 11:13 AM ET
If he really is available Hexy needs to find a way to make that deal. Getting OEL and retaining 3 of our 4 top D prospects will have this D group looking really good over the next few years.

I think my max offer would be something like the lotto pick, Coots and Hagg. I think other teams would have a hard time bettering that offer.

- hereticpride


We'd need to clear some $$ to bring OEL on board.

Streit and/or Mac would do the trick. Moving Vinny or Umberger would be just too much to hope for.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jan 31 @ 11:16 AM ET
I'd offer Simmonds, Brayden Schenn, Morin and a 1st in 2016 right now for OEL and a pick/prospect. OEL is a 23 year old franchise defenseman level guy
- Jsaquella


...and he can score from his own blue line
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jan 31 @ 11:16 AM ET
I'd offer Simmonds, Brayden Schenn, Morin and a 1st in 2016 right now for OEL and a pick/prospect. OEL is a 23 year old franchise defenseman level guy
- Jsaquella


I thought I would get blasted for mentioning Morin, but we would be in worse shape making that deal.
I agree that OEL is all that!
But that deal kills us, fills one hole, but opens 2 more.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 31 @ 11:16 AM ET
I'd offer Simmonds, Brayden Schenn, Morin and a 1st in 2016 right now for OEL and a pick/prospect. OEL is a 23 year old franchise defenseman level guy
- Jsaquella

That's a very fair offer too. I do wonder if they're fishing for another lotto pick tho. They'll probably already be picking top 4. If they add another lotto pick they might end up odds on favorites to win the lottery.

I wouldn't have a problem giving up Coots because 2/3 line Centers come up in trades and FA far more often than young franchise D men do.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jan 31 @ 11:18 AM ET
I'd offer Simmonds, Brayden Schenn, Morin and a 1st in 2016 right now for OEL and a pick/prospect. OEL is a 23 year old franchise defenseman level guy
- Jsaquella


Don't you think that is too much? I would keep Simmonds.
Arizona is going to deal Yandle. Can't see them trading OEL. I heard interview with one of their owners and he said they are not going to " tear it all down" and OEL is a guy they want to build around
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 31 @ 11:18 AM ET
We'd need to clear some $$ to bring OEL on board.

Streit and/or Mac would do the trick. Moving Vinny or Umberger would be just too much to hope for.

- 77rams

I'd also be assuming another move would be made at the deadline. Streit or Coburn for picks.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 31 @ 11:18 AM ET
I'd offer Simmonds, Brayden Schenn, Morin and a 1st in 2016 right now for OEL and a pick/prospect. OEL is a 23 year old franchise defenseman level guy
- Jsaquella



Doesn't that just create larger holes? Why not roll the dice with the d prospect they have? Believe me OEL would be amazing to get but I just don't think this organization has the depth to make a move like that
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 31 @ 11:18 AM ET
I thought I would get blasted for mentioning Morin, but we would be in worse shape making that deal.
I agree that OEL is all that!
But that deal kills us, fills one hole, but opens 2 more.

- puckhead17


Easier to find forwards in free agency than a 23 year old franchise defenseman.

Even if it's just a couple of stopgap guys for a season or two.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 31 @ 11:19 AM ET
Don't you think that is too much? I would keep Simmonds.
Arizona is going to deal Yandle. Can't see them trading OEL. I heard interview with one of their owners and he said they are not going to " tear it all down" and OEL is a guy they want to build around

- 3flyerkids

As of yesterday their GM is on record saying everyone not named Doan is available.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 31 @ 11:19 AM ET
Doesn't that just create larger holes? Why not roll the dice with the d prospect they have? Believe me OEL would be amazing to get but I just don't think this organization has the depth to make a move like that
- nastyflyergirl


For one, none of the defense prospects they have project to be as good as OEL. Second, OEL is 23 years old and already an elite defenseman. It's a lot easier to find forward depth, especially for this team, than another OEL

And FWIW, I doubt that offer is enough to get OEL.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jan 31 @ 11:20 AM ET
I'd also be assuming another move would be made at the deadline. Streit or Coburn for picks.
- hereticpride


I'm in.
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