100 percent this.

while i dont necessarily think he is better than all of the guys you listed, mason is a damn fine goalie. certainly a guy you can build around.

while masons numbers are pretty good when standing on their own, i dont think numbers ever show the whole picture. until someone finds a way to adequately convey the quality of the shot attempt against.
- stayinthefnnet

Right now, without considering team construction and contract, would you take Steve Mason over Marc Andre Fleury?

Right now, without considering tam construction and contract, would you take Steve Mason over Marc Andre Fleury?
- jmatchett383

Yes

MAF wilts far too easily

I wouldn't take him over Quick, Lundqvist, or Rask though. And before anyone gets their britches in a bunch, that is not a slam on Mason.

Right now, without considering tam construction and contract, would you take Steve Mason over Marc Andre Fleury?
- jmatchett383

i ask myself this a lot. and i really dont know.

i think people who would snap judgement to one or the other very quickly are failing to properly consider all factors.

fleury has done fine by me this season. if he plays this way into the postseason. i am fine with selecting him. but therein lies fleury's biggest issue.

fleury can make saves that mason simply physically cannot. if both are at their peak, fleury is the answer. but there are an awful lot of ifs in that qualifier, and in the playoffs, you dont get room for many of those. mason (at least when one considers his time with the flyers) has consistency in his corner, which is an important feather in the cap of a goalie.

Right now, without considering team construction and contract, would you take Steve Mason over Marc Andre Fleury?
- jmatchett383

Yes,
Flower gets rattled more easily than Mase...I thnk Mase has a higher bar than flower has and I think we have seen the best from flower...we haven't seen Mase with a sound D in front of him

Driving from Canada for the game tomorrow and hotel is on South Broad...Any suggestions for food around there? Also is it best to just drive to the game and park or is there a better option for transportation?
- broadstreet11

I like Chickie and Pete's just around the corner....or Beny the Bums located at the holiday Inn Stadium...both are sports bars and food...also a cab ride into Pat's or Gino's is a must(if cheese steaks r your thing)...it's a 20$ cab there and back.....The locals tell me Jim's is better but I line Gino's...and what JSQ said...xfinity is pretty good as well.

i ask myself this a lot. and i really dont know.

i think people who would snap judgement to one or the other very quickly are failing to properly consider all factors.

fleury has done fine by me this season. if he plays this way into the postseason. i am fine with selecting him. but therein lies fleury's biggest issue.

fleury can make saves that mason simply physically cannot. if both are at their peak, fleury is the answer. but there are an awful lot of ifs in that qualifier, and in the playoffs, you dont get room for many of those. mason (at least when one considers his time with the flyers) has consistency in his corner, which is an important feather in the cap of a goalie.
- stayinthefnnet

I agree with this. MAF is probably the most athletic goalie in the game. There are some saves that he makes semi-routinely that most other goalies have difficulty with. But, as you said, Mason is the more consistent goalie game-by-game. Also, Mason performed fantastically in the playoffs for the Flyers last year, and almost single-handedly won the Game 7.

Like you said, it depends on which MAF you're getting day to day. For me, I'd take Mason right now, but I think they both have the same amount of strengths and weaknesses.

I like Chickie and Pete's just around the corner....or Beny the Bums located at the holiday Inn Stadium...both are sports bars and food...also a cab ride into Pat's or Gino's is a must...it's a 20$ cab there and back.....The locals tell me Jim's is better but I line Gino's...and what JSQ said...xfinity is pretty good as well.
- landros 2

I'd stay away from XFinity Live unless you like crowded places, obnoxiously loud sound, and overpriced food. If you want a Philly Sports Bar, just stick to Chickie and Pete's.

Mason naturally doesn't get his due because the media is just too lazy to look beyond the stats and watch what he does, game in and game out - though he currently holds a better save % than Quick, Lundqvist, Rask, and Crawford.
- 77rams

ALSO.....He is doing all of this behind and pitiful defensive team, overall.

I agree with this. MAF is probably the most athletic goalie in the game. There are some saves that he makes semi-routinely that most other goalies have difficulty with. But, as you said, Mason is the more consistent goalie game-by-game. Also, Mason performed fantastically in the playoffs for the Flyers last year, and almost single-handedly won the Game 7.

Like you said, it depends on which MAF you're getting day to day. For me, I'd take Mason right now, but I think they both have the same amount of strengths and weaknesses.
- jmatchett383

yeah. i dont think you can really definitively say there is a right or wrong answer.

although this postseason will be quite telling for fleury.

I'd stay away from XFinity Live unless you like crowded places, obnoxiously loud sound, and overpriced food. If you want a Philly Sports Bar, just stick to Chickie and Pete's.
- jmatchett383

it is very, very difficult to not be on the edge of getting in an altercation in there. at any time.

I'd stay away from XFinity Live unless you like crowded places, obnoxiously loud sound, and overpriced food. If you want a Philly Sports Bar, just stick to Chickie and Pete's.
- jmatchett383

total agree, it's like they tried to mix the worst parts of a club, an airport, and a food court

Yes

MAF wilts far too easily

I wouldn't take him over Quick, Lundqvist, or Rask though. And before anyone gets their britches in a bunch, that is not a slam on Mason.
- Scoob

Toss Carey Price in there, too... MTL isn't a PO team w/o him.

it is very, very difficult to not be on the edge of getting in an altercation in there. at any time.
- stayinthefnnet

I went there when it first opened, and they didn't have half of the stuff on their menu. I went there after the Flyers/Pens game, and my friend and I just looked at each other about 10 seconds after walking in and walked right back out.

Just holds no interest for me.

Toss Carey Price in there, too... MTL isn't a PO team w/o him.
- Tomahawk

Yep
Rinne, too

total agree, it's like they tried to mix the worst parts of a club, an airport, and a food court
- BulliesPhan87

Meatheads and sluts galore. From what I saw, it was just a bunch of D-bags waiting in a line that ended nearly at the WFC ticket booth (thats an exaggeration). As soon as I saw that. I got in the car and went to a real bar.

PEB answers an important question
http://www.broadstreethoc...ras-most-important-debate

I'd stay away from XFinity Live unless you like crowded places, obnoxiously loud sound, and overpriced food. If you want a Philly Sports Bar, just stick to Chickie and Pete's.
- jmatchett383

Broad st Bullies wasn't to bad.

Meatheads and sluts galore. From what I saw, it was just a bunch of D-bags waiting in a line that ended nearly at the WFC ticket booth (thats an exaggeration). As soon as I saw that. I got in the car and went to a real bar.
- GOA88

you couldn't pay me to go there



well, maybe you could. Bids start in the seven figures range.

I went there when it first opened, and they didn't have half of the stuff on their menu. I went there after the Flyers/Pens game, and my friend and I just looked at each other about 10 seconds after walking in and walked right back out.

Just holds no interest for me.
- jmatchett383

i mean i know they have the bullies bar or whatever the (frank) its called, but the whole enterprise isnt really that sports related to me. its really a place for just people to go and just exhibit everything that is wrong with people in their mid 20s.

Awesome...and the Broad St line is pretty straight forward I assume?
- broadstreet11

Yeah, just get on the subway, follow it to the stadiums and hop off.

you couldn't pay me to go there



well, maybe you could. Bids start in the seven figures range.
- BulliesPhan87

That (frank)ing amatuer's club has a $20 cover.....not to mention the overpriced drinks/food. Yea...I'm good.

total agree, it's like they tried to mix the worst parts of a club, an airport, and a food court
- BulliesPhan87

this is probably the most accurate description going.

its so awful.

it needs to be steamrolled and have its ashes thrown into the same black hole that the shamrock shuttle belongs in.

this is probably the most accurate description going.

its so awful.

it needs to be steamrolled and have its ashes thrown into the same black hole that the shamrock shuttle belongs in.
- stayinthefnnet

maybe next year we can have the wing bowl there

then once everybody's inside, we lock the doors and burn the whole damn thing down

That (frank)ing amatuer's club has a $20 cover.....not to mention the overpriced drinks/food. Yea...I'm good.
- GOA88

I would literally rather throw my money down the toilet

PEB answers an important question
http://www.broadstreethoc...ras-most-important-debate
- BulliesPhan87

But I thought this was the most important debate: Which is more authentic, the Weehawken or the Canarsie style of mambo?