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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 30 @ 12:45 PM ET
bennett a healthy scratch?

while i do think scratching him brings a lesser player into the lineup, i am fine with this right now if it serves as a learning experience.
PensFan1103
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 06.30.2010

Jan 30 @ 12:51 PM ET
bennett a healthy scratch?

while i do think scratching him brings a lesser player into the lineup, i am fine with this right now if it serves as a learning experience.

- stayinthefnnet

Yeah, he is certainly a better player than Sill, Adams, Ebbett, and Arcobello, but no problem with it unless it becomes a habit. Sitting a player is one of the strongest weapons a coach has to get a point across to a player they aren't happy with. Sit in the box, try to learn something while you watch the game, and get your head out of your ass.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Jan 30 @ 12:56 PM ET
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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 30 @ 12:58 PM ET
Yeah, he is certainly a better player than Sill, Adams, Ebbett, and Arcobello, but no problem with it unless it becomes a habit. Sitting a player is one of the strongest weapons a coach has to get a point across to a player they aren't happy with. Sit in the box, try to learn something while you watch the game, and get your head out of your ass.
- PensFan1103


pretty much how i see it. bennett needs to either step up and be able to regularly provide malkin with some help on the second line, or recapture some of the chemistry he had with sutter and help to bring some possession ability to that line.

if he cant do either, than he really has no place. im not giving up on him just yet, but i need him to do one of those 2 things to have value.

and i just do not (frank)ing understand why perron/crosby/hornqvist isnt a set it and forget it line.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jan 30 @ 1:00 PM ET
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- nbartley9


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sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 30 @ 1:00 PM ET
Yeah, he is certainly a better player than Sill, Adams, Ebbett, and Arcobello, but no problem with it unless it becomes a habit. Sitting a player is one of the strongest weapons a coach has to get a point across to a player they aren't happy with. Sit in the box, try to learn something while you watch the game, and get your head out of your ass.
- PensFan1103


I don't know. With the amount of time he has already missed in his short career, and with all the other injuries that have allowed him a chance to take on a larger role, you would think someone wouldn't need some time to sit and think about how bad you suck. Seems to me like he's had a pretty good opportunity to step up, and he just hasn't.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 30 @ 1:01 PM ET
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- nbartley9


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Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 12.28.2013

Jan 30 @ 1:03 PM ET
R U carrying Kunitz's baby or something?
- sammy87

What facts can you provide for your opinion othr then "he looks slow" knowing he had a foot injury this season.... unless you think 30 points in 40 games sucks??? all the stats say your wrong!!!!

The "blame Kunitz game" is getting old. The team has a ton of injuries and a weak bottom six at this point.... there's your problem
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 30 @ 1:06 PM ET
What facts can you provide for your opinion othr then "he looks slow" knowing he had a foot injury this season.... unless you think 30 points in 40 games sucks??? all the stats say your wrong!!!!

The "blame Kunitz game" is getting old. The team has a ton of injuries and a weak bottom six at this point.... there's your problem

- Brianandr1


The only reason I would trade Kunitz would be for the fact that Sid seems to have found better chemistry with Perron and Hornqvist. Still, he makes a good 2nd line winger, and can move up in case of injuries.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 30 @ 1:06 PM ET
What facts can you provide for your opinion othr then "he looks slow" knowing he had a foot injury this season.... unless you think 30 points in 40 games sucks??? all the stats say your wrong!!!!
- Brianandr1


I never said Kunitz was a problem, he certainly isn't playing the way he was 3 yrs ago, and he has lost a step. I always thought the idea of flanking 87 with 2 35 yr olds was pretty dumb.

But you throw a fit anytime anyone says anything about your boy? Just seems a bit strange?
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 30 @ 1:12 PM ET
The only reason I would trade Kunitz would be for the fact that Sid seems to have found better chemistry with Perron and Hornqvist. Still, he makes a good 2nd line winger, and can move up in case of injuries.
- jmatchett383



Kunitz has also has had great success with Malkin. I don't think 3.85 mil for a 60 point+ 2nd line winger is bad on any team.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 30 @ 1:16 PM ET
The only reason I would trade Kunitz would be for the fact that Sid seems to have found better chemistry with Perron and Hornqvist. Still, he makes a good 2nd line winger, and can move up in case of injuries.
- jmatchett383


i dont think kunitz is the same player he has been in the past. i dont have stats to prove it or graphs or anything. but just from watching the games. he has undergone sort of a similar (although not as drastic, in my mind) shift that hartnell went through in philly.

the forechecking, hitting, mucking in corners element is cut in half, which was his bread and butter. more shots are taken from long range, which should never really be his game. the majority of kunitz' attempts should come within 7 feet or so of the net.

however, im not advocating trading him. he still is useful, and still likely has more value to the team than he would in a trade. it would cost more to fill his hole than it would bring back in the deal i think. i agree, i dont think he should be on the top line. that needs to be crosby flanked by perron and hornqvist. 100 percent of the time.

kunitz dropping down with malkin is a good thing. they work well together. and as i said, its not as if kunitz has lost all skill/ability.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jan 30 @ 1:18 PM ET
have no issue with bennett being out of the lineup. he has been invisible the past few games.

its funny, people whine about a lack of accountability, then the coaches hold a guy responsible and sit him a game and all of a sudden its bad coaching. lots of other guys could sit as well but we dont have that kind of roster space.

and by the way, anyone suggesting we should trade BD, DP, or SH for Jagr... please... send me whatever you're on. I wouldnt trade a 2nd for him let alone one of our best defensive prospects.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jan 30 @ 1:18 PM ET
I think on the Kunitz debate it comes down to whether or not he can play with Geno if he stays on this team. Perron Sid Hornqvist is the top line and Kunitz shouldn't be there anymore.

Maybe MJ is spreading the love around with Geno out, but still. That line is going to be our best. Time to play them together.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 30 @ 1:20 PM ET
have no issue with bennett being out of the lineup. he has been invisible the past few games.

its funny, people whine about a lack of accountability, then the coaches hold a guy responsible and sit him a game and all of a sudden its bad coaching. lots of other guys could sit as well but we dont have that kind of roster space.

and by the way, anyone suggesting we should trade BD, DP, or SH for Jagr... please... send me whatever you're on. I wouldnt trade a 2nd for him let alone one of our best defensive prospects.

- SuperHenderson13


Who's BD?
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Jan 30 @ 1:21 PM ET
have no issue with bennett being out of the lineup. he has been invisible the past few games.

its funny, people whine about a lack of accountability, then the coaches hold a guy responsible and sit him a game and all of a sudden its bad coaching. lots of other guys could sit as well but we dont have that kind of roster space.

and by the way, anyone suggesting we should trade BD, DP, or SH for Jagr... please... send me whatever you're on. I wouldnt trade a 2nd for him let alone one of our best defensive prospects.

- SuperHenderson13


HCMJ said

Coach on Bennett: "When you have 13 forwards you're always making decisions as to what could help you for a particular game." (1 of 2)

Coach on Beau: It's not only what they don't offer, it's about your competition. I thought his last couple games could be improved. (2 of 2)

This is just a wake up call. Get him moving back in the right direction. I agree on Jagr as well. No chance in hell I would give up a blue chip prospect for him.. Makes no sense in my book.
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Jan 30 @ 1:21 PM ET
Who's BD?
- jmatchett383


Brian Dumoulin
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jan 30 @ 1:22 PM ET
Thank goodness mj doesn't prescribe to the peewee idea of just let the players work it out when playing poorly. Bb deserves sat... If that don't work can he go to wbs? Hope mj takes a page outta Dan's book and develops his players properly.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jan 30 @ 1:26 PM ET
HCMJ said

Coach on Bennett: "When you have 13 forwards you're always making decisions as to what could help you for a particular game." (1 of 2)

Coach on Beau: It's not only what they don't offer, it's about your competition. I thought his last couple games could be improved. (2 of 2)

This is just a wake up call. Get him moving back in the right direction. I agree on Jagr as well. No chance in hell I would give up a blue chip prospect for him.. Makes no sense in my book.

- znagle

yep. as Yohe said on Twitter, coaches seem to really like Bennett. They know what he can do and he hasnt done it lately. he isnt the first guy to do it, and as a young guy, let him sit a night, get that feeling to work and play better and watch the results. if it were up to me, i'd sit half the team tonight after that washington game.

i will draw some heat from this, especially devils fans, but bill guerin was in no better or worse position for the islanders in 2009 than jagr is this year and look what they got for him. a 5th round pick that eventually became a 3rd. to me, jagr is a one time thing. you get him, play him, hope he works out this season. that to me isnt worth anything near a 2nd round pick, let alone a good prospect.

if thats the asking price, then i hope Lou likes Jagr for the rest of the season because whatever team that pays that would be insane. i want Jagr back, but not at that price.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Jan 30 @ 1:26 PM ET
HCMJ said

Coach on Bennett: "When you have 13 forwards you're always making decisions as to what could help you for a particular game." (1 of 2)

Coach on Beau: It's not only what they don't offer, it's about your competition. I thought his last couple games could be improved. (2 of 2)

This is just a wake up call. Get him moving back in the right direction. I agree on Jagr as well. No chance in hell I would give up a blue chip prospect for him.. Makes no sense in my book.

- znagle



My book
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Jan 30 @ 1:35 PM ET
yep. as Yohe said on Twitter, coaches seem to really like Bennett. They know what he can do and he hasnt done it lately. he isnt the first guy to do it, and as a young guy, let him sit a night, get that feeling to work and play better and watch the results. if it were up to me, i'd sit half the team tonight after that washington game.

i will draw some heat from this, especially devils fans, but bill guerin was in no better or worse position for the islanders in 2009 than jagr is this year and look what they got for him. a 5th round pick that eventually became a 3rd. to me, jagr is a one time thing. you get him, play him, hope he works out this season. that to me isnt worth anything near a 2nd round pick, let alone a good prospect.

if thats the asking price, then i hope Lou likes Jagr for the rest of the season because whatever team that pays that would be insane. i want Jagr back, but not at that price.

- SuperHenderson13


Agreed. Hopefully this lights a fire under BB's ass
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 30 @ 1:45 PM ET
Brian Dumoulin
- znagle


Okay, here's where I don't get on the same level as you guys: How would you rank Dumolin, Harrington, and Bortuzzo? Because I honestly don't see them enough and sometimes confuse them with each other (although I know they're very different players). I don't really think any of the 3 of them are surefire top-4 defenders, at least not as much as guys like Pouliot and/or Matta shold be.
Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 12.28.2013

Jan 30 @ 1:50 PM ET
I never said Kunitz was a problem, he certainly isn't playing the way he was 3 yrs ago, and he has lost a step. I always thought the idea of flanking 87 with 2 35 yr olds was pretty dumb.

But you throw a fit anytime anyone says anything about your boy? Just seems a bit strange?

- sammy87


BASED ON WHAT STATISTICS???? HIS NUMBERS ARE UP last season and the same as three season's ago... (26g/60pts)

Based on the fact that a few people said something so lets just repeat it because it seams that way???
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 30 @ 1:52 PM ET
Okay, here's where I don't get on the same level as you guys: How would you rank Dumolin, Harrington, and Bortuzzo? Because I honestly don't see them enough and sometimes confuse them with each other (although I know they're very different players). I don't really think any of the 3 of them are surefire top-4 defenders, at least not as much as guys like Pouliot and/or Matta shold be.
- jmatchett383



Dumoulin > Bortuzzo > Harrington, with Dumoulin having top 4 potential like Pouliot does.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 30 @ 1:52 PM ET
BASED ON WHAT STATISTICS???? HIS NUMBERS ARE UP last season and the same as three season's ago... (26g/60pts)

Based on the fact that a few people said something so lets just repeat it because it seams that way???

- Brianandr1


The way you play and the statistics you put up are 2 related but separate things.
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