Has Kadri's alleged dive on the Jagr penalty been discussed yet? Can't find a replay, but it was a call for holding about 3mins into the 3rd. Jagr got his stick blade on Kadri's knee and then Kadri went down like he had been shot. Maybe it was only a minor embellishment (who knows if it actually knocked him off balance), but weaker calls have been made this year. Not having seen a replay since last night, I can't be sure.

Thoughts (other than for me to go frank myself)?
- KarlKarlsson

Well, I wouldn't say go F yourself ...

I would say that I doubt anyone on here gives a rat's ass whether or not Kadri dove then, or ever.

He is one of the few players most of us would like to see the Leafs keep. Beyond that, I think we have bigger complaints for this team and management.

Turns out I simply cannot coexist with advanced stats.

http://www.thestar.com/sp...an-analytics-suggest.html

Headline says it all. Goodness gracious
- TheThrill

This analysis puts giving up prime scoring chances into play too.

How is this possible? Am I watching him through a biased perspective? I can't see how that could be because I used to like him and have always wanted him to succeed.

Did I imagine that brutal pinch that led to a 3 on 1 last night?

Because you drop more bombs in Leaf threads than Al Quada ...

you (frank)ing troll
- .HOHO.

You need to stop holding your emotions in..

Leafs fans hate me. I'm alright with that.
- Iggysbff

I only hate you when you get a haircut

You need to stop holding your emotions in..
- bixll

I know .... I need to learn to express myself more

personally i like the fact that we can talk hockey in here (as opposed to the Habs thread) and since the Leafs kinda stink this year, the fanboys in here aren't too obnoxious. still gotta put up with systemtool and dozzer but whatever.
- DoubleDown

Habs thread is more Martha Stewart Living than hockey. Did you guys hear that Stee puts butter on his salmon!? LOLZ

Getzlaf for Phaneuf

Playing 2nd line, with 3rd liners, with 2nd rate pp (more lately) getting tougher matchups and less zone starts.

Good 2nd liner (right now) at the very least.
- burn

Kadri is a decent 2nd liner. Will never be a great 2nd liner. But we've had this discussion over and over and over.

agree to disagree for you and i..however, i'll sit back and watch you debate it with the other kadri haters in here for fun

4 pts in 33 AHL games this year. When is it safe to write him off?
- 1979AD

250 AHL games

I know .... I need to learn to express myself more
- .HOHO.

Not good for the ticker, to bottle it up like that.

I suggest a bottle of Cab, a hot tub and your beautiful wife... No Leafs hockey..

Leafs fans hate me. I'm alright with that.
- Iggysbff

If you act like this at home, it's not just Leaf fans that hate you.

250 AHL games
- PinkSock

over / under at the 250 ahl game mark sits at 5 pts. Place your bets

I only hate you when you get a haircut
- jimi james

He is bald..

over / under at the 250 ahl game mark sits at 5 pts. Place your bets
- clark_griswold

4 secondary assists and 2 goals (one off his pants)

250 AHL games
- PinkSock

What if he gets sent back to the Solar Bears? Does 2 ECHL games = 1 AHL game?

If you act like this at home, it's not just Leaf fans that hate you.
- Garnie

My guess is that at home it's 'yes honey' to every single thing she says. That's why he needs to come here to exert his authoritay.

This analysis puts giving up prime scoring chances into play too.

How is this possible? Am I watching him through a biased perspective? I can't see how that could be because I used to like him and have always wanted him to succeed.

Did I imagine that brutal pinch that led to a 3 on 1 last night?
- 1979AD

There is no sense even reading, discussing or debating the advanced stats guys. They ignore every valid point and every reality that runs contrary to their analysis.

hes starting to get more ice time, he even played center a couple weeks ago

Not good for the ticker, to bottle it up like that.

I suggest a bottle of Cab, a hot tub and your beautiful wife... No Leafs hockey..
- bixll

Cab -
Hot Tub -
Wife - Traveling for work


*FiresuptheHub

Kadri is a decent 2nd liner. Will never be a great 2nd liner. But we've had this discussion over and over and over.

agree to disagree for you and i..however, i'll sit back and watch you debate it with the other kadri haters in here for fun
- clark_griswold

I'm not sure how you can say that he's only decent, seems the numbers say otherwise or how you can say he never will be.

No?
- burn

Yes, if I'm reading it correctly.

Phil has 1st line offense ....but 4th line (or worse) defense which nets him out as a 2nd line talent (from a pure corsi perspective)

Winnik has 3rd line offense ...but 1st line (or better) defense which nets him out as something between a 2nd and 1st liner (from a pure corsi perspective).

Crazy.

hes starting to get more ice time, he even played center a couple weeks ago
- PinkSock

personally i like the fact that we can talk hockey in here (as opposed to the Habs thread) and since the Leafs kinda stink this year, the fanboys in here aren't too obnoxious. still gotta put up with systemtool and dozzer but whatever.
- DoubleDown

we stink all the time though haha.. I get what you are saying.. but sometimes it gets old to hear it from non leaf fans. We are hard enough on ourselves for the most part

What if he gets sent back to the Solar Bears? Does 2 ECHL games = 1 AHL game?
- 1979AD

Matt Finn was recently in the ECHL

Still bitter about the Ceci hit and dish to Lupul eh?
- TheThrill

Nope, not mad at all. I don't feel anything but pity for the Leafs and their fans, especially since Steve Simmons covers your team.