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GardinerExpress
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Joined: 08.21.2012

Jan 30 @ 11:46 AM ET
In fairness, I would rather go for a Toews, Kopitar, Duchene, Giroux, Getzlaf, Carter than any of the guys you mentioned. Wouldn't hurt to have a Johansen, Forsberg etc as well.
- systemtool


to be fair I only went back 5 years, you went back 13
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 30 @ 11:47 AM ET
Pretty much. Strome is the best on there if Eichel and Mcdavid are chosen
- DougGilmour_93

Strome or Hanafin.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 30 @ 11:47 AM ET
Ekblad is already outstanding. Jones is well on his way at only 19-20. Doughty was playing top minutes for Canada as a second year pro. Ryan Murray has been injured mostly but when he played last year he looked pretty good. i think it's a overblown. even a guy like Hedman, who took a few years, is a monster now.
- DoubleDown


The C's have a longer list of success stories and names to go by. Just saying. Having Rielly makes it more logical to go with a C. It's not impossible to get #1dmen in the early part of the draft, its just a bigger gamble and a longer process.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 30 @ 11:49 AM ET
The C's have a longer list of success stories and names to go by. Just saying. Having Rielly makes it more logical to go with a C. It's not impossible to get #1dmen in the early part of the draft, its just a bigger gamble and a longer process.
- systemtool

I would take Hanafin if we had the chance. But after that Strome Marner Zacha Ahouls be our priorities. I do really like Crouse as well. Even though a lot don't.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jan 30 @ 11:49 AM ET
Erik Johnson changed everyones perception on picking a d-man high.

Staal,Toews,Backstom,Kessel,Brassard,Okposo followed......

Ekblad is a beast. miles about the other top guys from the 2014 draft already

- GardinerExpress

Well considering 27 or so guys in the first round haven't played an NHL game, so yeah he would be ahead of them in the NHL.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 30 @ 11:52 AM ET
to be fair I only went back 5 years, you went back 13
- GardinerExpress


To be fair, I didn't mention Hall, Seguin, MacKinnon, Monahan, Galchenyuk, Strome, Huberdeau... hardly any wingers or anyone outside the 5 or 6. To be fair.

In the end, I suppose we're both right. Either way, D or C, almost all these guys are gambles, ranks made on educated guesses and assumptions by scouts.

I just think this Leafs team would be better off shoring up their C depth, as the D depth isn't in as desperate and shallow of a state.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 30 @ 11:53 AM ET
I would take Hanafin if we had the chance. But after that Strome Marner Zacha Ahouls be our priorities. I do really like Crouse as well. Even though a lot don't.
- Santo_44


I wouldn't be too upset with Crouse, hes a gamble like most of the picks will be.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jan 30 @ 11:54 AM ET
Just finished watching the game, c'est la beautiful
- Garnie



Bernier is perfect for the tank...

It would be nice to get a second for him at the deadline though.
GardinerExpress
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Joined: 08.21.2012

Jan 30 @ 12:01 PM ET
Well 27 or so guys in the first round haven't played an NHL game, so yeah he would be ahead of them in the NHL.
- LeafMan


not to mention the fact that the number 2 and 3 picks are both forwards and, only managed a combined 10 points in 46 games and he has 28 points in the same number of games as a d-man.
Deeps27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jan 30 @ 12:01 PM ET
Bernier is perfect for the tank...

It would be nice to get a second for him at the deadline though.

- Byfuglien Ate Me

And here they come out of the woodwork...
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 30 @ 12:02 PM ET
not to mention the fact that the number 2 and 3 picks are both forwards and, only managed a combined 10 points in 46 games and he has 28 points in the same number of games as a d-man.
- GardinerExpress




Its way too early to claim who is better than who from that draft.
GardinerExpress
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Jan 30 @ 12:02 PM ET
Bernier is perfect for the tank...

It would be nice to get a second for him at the deadline though.

- Byfuglien Ate Me


we havent had a second pan out since kulemin. Bernie going nowhere
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jan 30 @ 12:02 PM ET
And here they come out of the woodwork...
- Deeps27


A first would be nice, but I can't see anyone giving that up for him.
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Jan 30 @ 12:03 PM ET


Its way too early to claim who is better than who from that draft.

- systemtool


It's safe to say Ekblad is ahead of everyone at this point, which is what I said. who knows who will be the best of the draft, but its not even close thus far
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Jan 30 @ 12:04 PM ET


Its way too early to claim who is better than who from that draft.

- systemtool

Dude!
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jan 30 @ 12:06 PM ET
Bernie going nowhere
- GardinerExpress


His career? I agree.

But since we don't want to win, I cant see how he can hurt.
Deeps27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jan 30 @ 12:07 PM ET
A first would be nice, but I can't see anyone giving that up for him.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

That's not what I was alluding to...I don't see the Leafs offering him up this year.
Deeps27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jan 30 @ 12:09 PM ET
His career? I agree.

But since we don't want to win, I cant see how he can hurt.

- Byfuglien Ate Me

Blatant Trolling > Criticizing Bloggers respectfully? Asking for a friend...
GardinerExpress
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Joined: 08.21.2012

Jan 30 @ 12:10 PM ET
To be fair, I didn't mention Hall, Seguin, MacKinnon, Monahan, Galchenyuk, Strome, Huberdeau... hardly any wingers or anyone outside the 5 or 6. To be fair.

In the end, I suppose we're both right. Either way, D or C, almost all these guys are gambles, ranks made on educated guesses and assumptions by scouts.

I just think this Leafs team would be better off shoring up their C depth, as the D depth isn't in as desperate and shallow of a state.

- systemtool



yeah and i coulda thrown out names like doughty, pietrangelo, or even our beloved rielly. drfat is a crapshoot, busts all around

The leafs really need a number 1 center, but they also really need a number 1 d-man. depth aside, hopefully they can grab a franchise player with what could be a top 5 pick
GardinerExpress
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Joined: 08.21.2012

Jan 30 @ 12:11 PM ET
Blatant Trolling > Criticizing Bloggers respectfully? Asking for a friend...
- Deeps27


I think his gf has a thing for bernier or somethin haha
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jan 30 @ 12:12 PM ET
Blatant Trolling > Criticizing Bloggers respectfully? Asking for a friend...
- Deeps27


I'm a fan of Mikes blogs. Have never said anything bad about him. So Bernier can't be faulted at all for last night Eh?

Thanks for trying to the two together though...
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jan 30 @ 12:12 PM ET
Changes in 2016:

As per the NHL: “Three draws will be held: the 1st Lottery draw will determine the Club selecting first overall, the 2nd Lottery draw will determine the Club selecting second overall and the 3rd Lottery draw will determine the club selecting third overall.
As a result of this change, the team earning the fewest points during the regular season will no longer be guaranteed, at worst, the second overall pick. That club could fall as low as fourth overall.”

As you can see they are tinkering with the way the drafts are being done. It looks as if the odds of the first lottery draw will be done with the same percentages as the 2015 draft I outlined above. After the first overall pick has been decided the remaining 13 teams will have their percentages increased proportionally for the second lottery draw and of course again for the third draw.

After the three drafts are complete the remaining 11 teams that didn’t win one of the first three picks the selections will be completed in inverse order of the regular season points.

- as per that Lucas guy.



I LOVE IT!
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jan 30 @ 12:12 PM ET
Nonis gets fired this weekend.
clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: JVR_42_PK81
Joined: 01.10.2013

Jan 30 @ 12:13 PM ET
you guys are such rascals you know that?

Leafs lunch is going to be great today
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jan 30 @ 12:14 PM ET
Changes in 2016:

As per the NHL: “Three draws will be held: the 1st Lottery draw will determine the Club selecting first overall, the 2nd Lottery draw will determine the Club selecting second overall and the 3rd Lottery draw will determine the club selecting third overall.
As a result of this change, the team earning the fewest points during the regular season will no longer be guaranteed, at worst, the second overall pick. That club could fall as low as fourth overall.”

As you can see they are tinkering with the way the drafts are being done. It looks as if the odds of the first lottery draw will be done with the same percentages as the 2015 draft I outlined above. After the first overall pick has been decided the remaining 13 teams will have their percentages increased proportionally for the second lottery draw and of course again for the third draw.

After the three drafts are complete the remaining 11 teams that didn’t win one of the first three picks the selections will be completed in inverse order of the regular season points.

- as per that Lucas guy.



I LOVE IT!

- systemtool

That's awesome, but the Leafs are probably going to be the worst team in the league next season.


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