I mentioned those 3 as examples of coming from success and falling on their faces here...I wasnt a Burke fan either...when he arrived, most fans thought he certainly would change culture and winning and didnt...seems to be a hard thing to do for those with a track record of success..
..I for one hope the Hunters can turn it around if they are the ones ..
- bazookajo1

Im with ya

yeah.. komarov (for wedgie), polak, santorelli (if reasonable price wise), winnik

all role playing guys i would look to keep
- Dozzer

thank you

you like want JVR brings? I dont, too soft hes not what I want around the youngsters
- PinkSock

at his rate tho he's worth it.. you can have a few softer guys.. problem is the leafs are full of softer guys

Goon tank. The possibilies of a goon roster are endless.
- clark_griswold

Until the league revokes the draft pick for intentionally tanking.

thank you
- jimi james

i dont know anyone can see this any differently anymore honestly

My hopeful Leafs lineup after the offseason:

JVR / Kadri / ???
??? / Draft pick C / Clarkson
Komarov / Holland / ???
??? / Carrick / ???

Rielly / Polak
Gardiner / Robidas
Percy / Holzer

Bernier

Phaneuf, Kessel, Lupul, Franson, Reimer and Winnik traded.
- mcleafs

So you dont think Nylander makes it next year?

you like want JVR brings? I dont, too soft hes not what I want around the youngsters
- PinkSock

JVR is a keeper. He needs less soft people on his line

at his rate tho he's worth it.. you can have a few softer guys.. problem is the leafs are full of softer guys
- Dozzer

at his rate, he would fetch a serious return though

So you dont think Nylander makes it next year?
- PinkSock

Who? I think Brown makes the team next year, if given a legit shot.

put the damn C on his chest and sign him for another 3 at a more reasonable rate

let that guy show these lil kids what it means to care and be a true NHLer
- Dozzer

If he is around next season, he would be choice one for the C, depending on who else is brought in, if Winnik is kept, choice number 2.

So you dont think Nylander makes it next year?
- PinkSock

No, one full season in A to work on not getting killed, makes it as a 20 year old with his full 3 years entry still remaining.

at his rate tho he's worth it.. you can have a few softer guys.. problem is the leafs are full of softer guys
- Dozzer

I wouldn't say he's soft. He needs to go to the net more often but he's a big kid. No sense in trading him.

This morning on TSN Radio

"Ryan O'Reilly trade talks picking up steam. Leafs rumoured to be in the mix but other teams have superior packages for the soon to be UFA. Dion not rumoured to be going the other way as LA and Toronto have resumed talks, Lombardi seems to have backed down on his offer and may be willing to offer a high pick or Toffoli"

JVR is a keeper. He needs less soft people on his line
- Santo_44

I wouldnt be upset if he got moved, hate big soft (frank)ers, he donst have to fight but atleast do a Sundin face wash

I would keep Komarov, JVR, one of the goalies, Rielly, Polak, Kessel (I keep him until a blow away offer comes, but I do think he needs to go eventually. someone will overpay severely..be patient) and Kadri. I don't think there is much point in trading guys like a Winnik is worth it as you likely wont get anything significant in return.
- systemtool

Agreed, except I would be trading Winnik and Santo. if you get a 2nd for Santo and a 3rd for Winnik great. If you want them back just sign them in the summer.

This morning on TSN Radio

"Ryan O'Reilly trade talks picking up steam. Leafs rumoured to be in the mix but other teams have superior packages for the soon to be UFA. Dion not rumoured to be going the other way as LA and Toronto have resumed talks, Lombardi seems to have backed down on his offer and may be willing to offer a high pick or Toffoli"
- PeterIng

Who is saying this? The host? An guest?

Difference is Hunter's built those winning cultures - Burke, Carlyle, Wilson inherited them.
- Deeps27

Another thing I know about Hunter, the Hunters, is that they know the CHL inside and out. Would be a huge bonus for our drafting. The N/A variety, which I

This morning on TSN Radio

"Ryan O'Reilly trade talks picking up steam. Leafs rumoured to be in the mix but other teams have superior packages for the soon to be UFA. Dion not rumoured to be going the other way as LA and Toronto have resumed talks, Lombardi seems to have backed down on his offer and may be willing to offer a high pick or Toffoli"
- PeterIng

So Richards and Toffoli for Phaneuf?!?

I wouldnt be upset if he got moved, hate big soft (frank)ers, he donst have to fight but atleast do a Sundin face wash
- PinkSock

100 percent a keeper. If the leafs are wasting their time trying to trade players that are keepers then they will go no where.

Who? I think Brown makes the team next year, if given a legit shot.
- ClarksonDavid

Im sure there will be a spot open for him to take on the 2nd line wing

Another thing I know about Hunter, the Hunters, is that they know the CHL inside and out. Would be a huge bonus for our drafting. The N/A variety, which I
- systemtool

HUGE X factor...look at the quality players LDN has graduacted in the last 10 years; bring Dale in too and get going...

This morning on TSN Radio

"Ryan O'Reilly trade talks picking up steam. Leafs rumoured to be in the mix but other teams have superior packages for the soon to be UFA. Dion not rumoured to be going the other way as LA and Toronto have resumed talks, Lombardi seems to have backed down on his offer and may be willing to offer a high pick or Toffoli"
- PeterIng

Let the games begin

JVR is a keeper. He needs less soft people on his line
- Santo_44

There have not been many leafs I can remember that can drive with strength to the net like he does ...he's a keeper in my mind

Who? I think Brown makes the team next year, if given a legit shot.
- ClarksonDavid

I love Brown. But I think it would be beneficial for him to be a mid season call up next year. But we will see

Thanks - broke down and looked it up. Gotta think at least Santo is held in higher regard; Winnik more responsible with less offensive upside...don't think 2nd rounders as a return are out of the question.
- Deeps27

I think Franson will be the big piece to dangle b/c their aren't a lot of guys on the market like him.

Santo is probably in a big pool of available forwards b/c their are a lot of teams already out of the playoff race and likely to be sellers.

Stafford, Stewart, Erat, Vermette, Roy, Tlusty, Ryder, Havlat, Jagr, Brodziak, Briere ....

Not sure all will get moved but they're all pending UFA's on poop teams.