I just woke up, did the Leafs trade
Phaneuf
Kessel
Lupul
Franson
Winnick
Santo
Reimer
Clarkson
Robidas
Polak
Gardiner

Yet ??????
- MountAlbert

What makes me cry is that he's the only one on the team I would have a problem with them trading !

he can teach "How to look good" classes to the rookies
- Dozzer

i) dietary classes
ii) modeling classes
iii) how to overtrain classes
iv) how not to fall classes (those would just be video classes featuing all of Lupul's injuries)
v) how NOT to block shots
vi) when not to stand in front of the net (when your idiot captain is shooting)

there's lots of development stuff he can do.

Can anyone recall off hand what the Poni deadline return was?
- Deeps27

Caputi and Skoula.

On this site?
- LeafMan

No in General, Thunderbird is used here at the office, and has some issues, as well as the FireFox software. So, I have been told by my IT staff.

Can anyone recall off hand what the Poni deadline return was?
- Deeps27

Caputi?

Absolutely 100%

Those are the types you keep around for the younger players, work ethic, well conditioned player far out weighs a mid draft pick.
- LeafMan

yeah.. komarov (for wedgie), polak, santorelli (if reasonable price wise), winnik

all role playing guys i would look to keep

Can anyone recall off hand what the Poni deadline return was?
- Deeps27

Caputi and Skoula

They then traded Skoula for a 5th I believe to New Jersey

The Hunter's have a track record of success and winning - that is the culture that needs to be bred at MLSE. I hope he is too.
- Deeps27

so did Burke, Carlyle, Wilson, etc...not saying Hunter isnt the guy...but Leafs have a way of sucking any pedigree outta a guy...

On this site with FF?
- LeafMan

I never really have issues on this site, even the ad isnt annoying now

Caputi and Skoula.
- systemtool

Thanks - broke down and looked it up. Gotta think at least Santo is held in higher regard; Winnik more responsible with less offensive upside...don't think 2nd rounders as a return are out of the question.

so did Burke, Carlyle, Wilson, etc...not saying Hunter isnt the guy...but Leafs have a way of sucking any pedigree outta a guy...
- bazookajo1

Difference is Hunter's built those winning cultures - Burke, Carlyle, Wilson inherited them.

I just woke up, did the Leafs trade
Phaneuf
Kessel
Lupul
Franson
Winnick
Santo
Reimer
Clarkson
Robidas
Polak
Gardiner

Yet ??????
- MountAlbert

Phaneuf (I'm not a hater but ya, it's gotta happen)
Kessel (Ditto - just makes sense for this team's future)
Lupul (If you get value sure but if not then keep him around to help)
Franson (Gone)
Winnick (I'd prefer a decent contract over the 4th rounder they'll be offered)
Santo (Gone)
Reimer (Can't move him with Bernier's contract situation unresolved)
Clarkson (Impossible)
Robidas (Sure)
Polak (If someone overpays than sure. Otherwise keep him to help)
Gardiner (I'd keep him unless the offer is too good to pass up)

Can anyone recall off hand what the Poni deadline return was?

EDIT: Ew. Skouola and Caputi. Here's hoping Santo and Winnik are held in a little more regard.
- Deeps27

Caputi

so did Burke, Carlyle, Wilson, etc...not saying Hunter isnt the guy...but Leafs have a way of sucking any pedigree outta a guy...
- bazookajo1

Those 3 you mentioned are so stuck in their ways they wont change, Burke and his "own rules" needs to (frank) off


how many BS rules does he make up?

hes got them for contracts, hes got his own roster freeze, hes got his own rules on offer sheets etc..RC ruins players , Wilson I kinda liked

Difference is Hunter's built those winning cultures - Burke, Carlyle, Wilson inherited them.
- Deeps27

Fresh perspective

i) dietary classes
ii) modeling classes
iii) how to overtrain classes
iv) how not to fall classes (those would just be video classes featuing all of Lupul's injuries)
v) how NOT to block shots
vi) when not to stand in front of the net (when your idiot captain is shooting)

there's lots of development stuff he can do.
- BorjeFan4Ever

vii) what hair product to use and when

The Hunter's have a track record of success and winning - that is the culture that needs to be bred at MLSE. I hope he is too.
- Deeps27

Hopefully his brother comes and helps him !!

What makes me cry is that he's the only one on the team I would have a problem with them trading !
- .HOHO.

I would keep Komarov, JVR, one of the goalies, Rielly, Polak, Kessel (I keep him until a blow away offer comes, but I do think he needs to go eventually. someone will overpay severely..be patient) and Kadri. I don't think there is much point in trading guys like a Winnik is worth it as you likely wont get anything significant in return.

Phaneuf (I'm not a hater but ya, it's gotta happen)
Kessel (Ditto - just makes sense for this team's future)
Lupul (If you get value sure but if not then keep him around to help)
Franson (Gone)
Winnick (I'd prefer a decent contract over the 4th rounder they'll be offered)
Santo (Gone)
Reimer (Can't move him with Bernier's contract situation unresolved)
Clarkson (Impossible)
Robidas (Sure)
Polak (If someone overpays than sure. Otherwise keep him to help)
Gardiner (I'd keep him unless the offer is too good to pass up)
- The Law

I pretty much agree with everything you say here. if someone will overpay for Winnik I would trade him aswell.

yeah.. komarov (for wedgie), polak, santorelli (if reasonable price wise), winnik

all role playing guys i would look to keep
- Dozzer

Polak has another year left, so to keep him is a better option then trading him for the reasons I mentioned earlier.

Those 3 you mentioned are so stuck in their ways they wont change, Burke and his "own rules" needs to (frank) off


how many BS rules does he make up?

hes got them for contracts, hes got his own roster freeze, hes got his own rules on offer sheets etc..RC ruins players , Wilson I kinda liked
- PinkSock

I mentioned those 3 as examples of coming from success and falling on their faces here...I wasnt a Burke fan either...when he arrived, most fans thought he certainly would change culture and winning and didnt...seems to be a hard thing to do for those with a track record of success..
..I for one hope the Hunters can turn it around if they are the ones ..

Goon tank. The possibilies of a goon roster are endless.

I would keep Komarov, JVR, one of the goalies, Rielly, Polak, Kessel (I keep him until a blow away offer comes, but I do think he needs to go eventually. someone will overpay severely..be patient) and Kadri. I don't think there is much point in trading guys like a Winnik is worth it as you likely wont get anything significant in return.
- systemtool

you like want JVR brings? I dont, too soft hes not what I want around the youngsters

Polak has another year left, so to keep him is a better option then trading him for the reasons I mentioned earlier.
- LeafMan

put the damn C on his chest and sign him for another 3 at a more reasonable rate

let that guy show these lil kids what it means to care and be a true NHLer

My hopeful Leafs lineup after the offseason:

JVR / Kadri / ???
??? / Draft pick C / Clarkson
Komarov / Holland / ???
??? / Carrick / ???

Rielly / Polak
Gardiner / Robidas
Percy / Holzer

Bernier

Phaneuf, Kessel, Lupul, Franson, Reimer, Santorelli and Winnik traded.