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- HonkFortheGoose

Ya got me.

I like it.

I think Hodgson could get back to 20goals playing with say Reinhart & Foligno
- jdfitz77

I think Cody is a guy where if it is going well, he is all in. If not then you are going to get what you see now.

Agreed

I don't watch him closely to call out any effort, but I don't think there's any chance his skill is gone. On a crap team last year he was still good offensively (and I could care less if his defensive play is bad - not every player can be a great 2-way guy).
- stashu

Cody Hodgson is an asset we should keep for the future. He has been terribly lost this year, because he hasn't been put in a place to succeed, and he reminds me quite a bit of Vanek (not intended as unconditional praise) - he's the kind of guy that needs to be set up, not a guy who can create on his own.

He has shown he can score, and that he is willing to work hard. He hasnt done it this year while the team itself is in a holding pattern.) If he turns things around, his contract will be a bargain.

The Sabres should give him a year to play with "the real talent" once they decide to flip the switch. If it doens't pan out, that will be the time to dump him.

Flame away.

I think Cody is a guy where if it is going well, he is all in. If not then you are going to get what you see now.
- ImThatGuy

To say it fully and then to move on to whatever comes next, I think Cody is in a holding pattern just the same as the whole franchise is.

It's kinda hard to blame the player for putting a mediocre performance on the ice when we don't blame the franchise for doing the same.

Cody Hodgson is an asset we should keep for the future. He has been terribly lost this year, because he hasn't been put in a place to succeed, and he reminds me quite a bit of Vanek (not intended as unconditional praise) - he's the kind of guy that needs to be set up, not a guy who can create on his own.

He has shown he can score, and that he is willing to work hard. He hasnt done it this year while the team itself is in a holding pattern.) If he turns things around, his contract will be a bargain.

The Sabres should give him a year to play with "the real talent" once they decide to flip the switch. If it doens't pan out, that will be the time to dump him.

Flame away.
- Der Kaiser

Agreed. Is it frustrating to see him just coasting around out there? Sure. But I think he still holds plenty of value to the team. He has skill. We've seen it. He's just not a player that's going to make things happen on his own.

To say it fully and then to move on to whatever comes next, I think Cody is in a holding pattern just the same as the whole franchise is.

It's kinda hard to blame the player for putting a mediocre performance on the ice when we don't blame the franchise for doing the same.
- Der Kaiser

IMO, putting Cody on a wing with Reinhart or McDavid he instantly becomes a constant 20G+ guy again. And 4.5MM for a 20G+ guy does not seem that bad in the grand scheme of things.

IMO, putting Cody on a wing with Reinhart or McDavid he instantly becomes a constant 20G+ guy again. And 4.5MM for a 20G+ guy does not seem that bad in the grand scheme of things.
- ImThatGuy

Kumbaya, then, everyone!

If what Ek is saying is true, which I hold very lightly, and the Kings are looking to get a defenseman soon I could see a deal where we send a defenseman and maybe Hodgson to the Kings for a Richards/Cap dump.

Hodgson could be effective in LA where he wouldn't be relied on defensively. He would be able to play the game he wants to play. There are a lot of two-way players in that system. Having a goal scorer would not hurt them. Look at what Gaborik can do (not insinuating Cody is on that level) in the system like LA's. Put Cody on a line with Carter and Toffoli and tell me he won't score 20 the rest of the season.

If what Ek is saying is true, which I hold very lightly, and the Kings are looking to get a defenseman soon I could see a deal where we send a defenseman and maybe Hodgson to the Kings for a Richards/Cap dump.

Hodgson could be effective in LA where he wouldn't be relied on defensively. He would be able to play the game he wants to play. There are a lot of two-way players in that system. Having a goal scorer would not hurt them. Look at what Gaborik can do (not insinuating Cody is on that level) in the system like LA's. Put Cody on a line with Carter and Toffoli and tell me he won't score 20 the rest of the season.
- thatsapickle

IMO the Kings are not going to take on a contract other than a pending UFA. They are in cap trouble.

Cody Hodgson is an asset we should keep for the future. He has been terribly lost this year, because he hasn't been put in a place to succeed, and he reminds me quite a bit of Vanek (not intended as unconditional praise) - he's the kind of guy that needs to be set up, not a guy who can create on his own.

He has shown he can score, and that he is willing to work hard. He hasnt done it this year while the team itself is in a holding pattern.) If he turns things around, his contract will be a bargain.

The Sabres should give him a year to play with "the real talent" once they decide to flip the switch. If it doens't pan out, that will be the time to dump him.

Flame away.
- Der Kaiser

buy him out.

buy him out.
- rover16

Thats about the worst idea there is. Would you want a 2.125MM contract buyout on the books for the next 8 years?

IMO, putting Cody on a wing with Reinhart or McDavid he instantly becomes a constant 20G+ guy again. And 4.5MM for a 20G+ guy does not seem that bad in the grand scheme of things.
- ImThatGuy

Right?!
And even if Murray doesn't see him as a long time piece to the puzzle, at least he can regain some trade value & help us land a guy Murray does see playing a role here
A 20goal guy with years left on his contract should at least get us a very good prospect

If what Ek is saying is true, which I hold very lightly, and the Kings are looking to get a defenseman soon I could see a deal where we send a defenseman and maybe Hodgson to the Kings for a Richards/Cap dump.

Hodgson could be effective in LA where he wouldn't be relied on defensively. He would be able to play the game he wants to play. There are a lot of two-way players in that system. Having a goal scorer would not hurt them. Look at what Gaborik can do (not insinuating Cody is on that level) in the system like LA's. Put Cody on a line with Carter and Toffoli and tell me he won't score 20 the rest of the season.
- thatsapickle

Personally, I hate the idea of trading a defenseman anywhere. Doesn't matter who either. I think that we have very little room for error with the guys we already have and if you move one out, that removes the very tiny bit of room that exists right now. Our defensive depth pretty much falls off a cliff after you get past Pysyk, McCabe and Ruhwedel.

Personally, I hate the idea of trading a defenseman anywhere. Doesn't matter who either. I think that we have very little room for error with the guys we already have and if you move one out, that removes the very tiny bit of room that exists right now. Our defensive depth pretty much falls off a cliff after you get past Pysyk, McCabe and Ruhwedel.
- HonkFortheGoose

That's where you sign and trade for guys, which is going to need to be done sooner or later regardless of how deep this defensive corps is or isn't.

I must be hungry and hence why I am asking.

If you have been to Buffalo, lived in Buffalo or are currently living in Buffalo.
Where do you get your favorite Pizza pie from?
I'll give you my top 5.

TC Wheeler's on Wheeler street in Tonawanda has perhaps the best pizza to be honest. (Order a pie from here and you will never be disappointed)

Molinaro's on Sheridan drive

Then Bocce on Bailey

Just Pizza.

Casa di Pizza

Best wings around are at TC Wheelers as well.

Best subs I would give to La'Nova's.

Sorry, I am hungry.

Thats about the worst idea there is. Would you want a 2.125MM contract buyout on the books for the next 8 years?
- ImThatGuy

no i want an 800,000 buyout on the books for 8 years as opposed to the 1,600,000 that it becomes next summer.

I must be hungry and hence why I am asking.

If you have been to Buffalo, lived in Buffalo or are currently living in Buffalo.
Where do you get your favorite Pizza pie from?
I'll give you my top 5.

TC Wheeler's on Wheeler street in Tonawanda has perhaps the best pizza to be honest. (Order a pie from here and you will never be disappointed)

Molinaro's on Sheridan drive

Then Bocce on Bailey

Just Pizza.

Casa di Pizza

Best wings around are at TC Wheelers as well.

Best subs I would give to La'Nova's.

Sorry, I am hungry.
- BuffaloHardHat

mister pizza
duffs for regular wings
la novas for bbq wings
la novas for subs- the #36 is great (bbq chx sub)

mister pizza
duffs for regular wings
la novas for bbq wings
la novas for subs- the #36 is great (bbq chx sub)
- rover16

Funny that you mention #36 for subs Rover.

That is my favorite from La Nova's as well.

no i want an 800,000 buyout on the books for 8 years as opposed to the 1,600,000 that it becomes next summer.
- rover16

My numbers were wrong. It is 1.1875MM for 8 years. I dont see where you are getting $800,000 from?

My numbers were wrong. It is 1.1875MM for 8 years. I dont see where you are getting $800,000 from?
- ImThatGuy

capgeek before it shut down. they had a program that allowed you to calculate buyouts based on when the player was bought out.

La Nova's is solid. Casa Di Pizza is great. I'm also a fan of Picasso's. I'm on Grand Island a lot and Say Cheese Pizza has both pretty good pizza and subs.

Funny that you mention #36 for subs Rover.

That is my favorite from La Nova's as well.
- BuffaloHardHat

also, new place on the boulevard by the 290. called Pi. little different. pretty good. worth checking out

La Nova's is solid. Casa Di Pizza is great. I'm also a fan of Picasso's. I'm on Grand Island a lot and Say Cheese Pizza has both pretty good pizza and subs.
- buffalofan19

Gandy's and Zahz's pizza in Cheektowaga make good pizza

Cody Hodgson is an asset we should keep for the future. He has been terribly lost this year, because he hasn't been put in a place to succeed, and he reminds me quite a bit of Vanek (not intended as unconditional praise) - he's the kind of guy that needs to be set up, not a guy who can create on his own.

He has shown he can score, and that he is willing to work hard. He hasnt done it this year while the team itself is in a holding pattern.) If he turns things around, his contract will be a bargain.

The Sabres should give him a year to play with "the real talent" once they decide to flip the switch. If it doens't pan out, that will be the time to dump him.

Flame away.
- Der Kaiser

Mix you and Fitz together and I agree. I hate that he's unmotivated, but I think the kid has a lot left. I wouldn't hate getting rid of him, but not to dump for scraps.

I see rule #3 was in effect right from page one?

Edit: seems we have an intelligent convo going.