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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 29 @ 3:40 PM ET

- aightwebang17

good times
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Jan 29 @ 3:41 PM ET
I ate a cheese flavored dog biscuit before.
- Streit2ThePoint

Did it actually taste like chesse?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 3:42 PM ET
I really would'nt put it past anyone. How could she resist??
- GOA88


As a kid, it is kind of intriguing.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 29 @ 3:42 PM ET
Your position was that the staff felt confident that he was at no risk to injure himself further by playing, which is why he was dressed.

I simply stated the he was not at full health due to his head cold. I don't know how you can argue that, but...well, somehow you did.

- jmatchett383



You're incorrect, I did not argue, disagree with , or refute that he had a head cold at any point in the conversation. I don't know how you came to that conclusion, but somehow you did.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 3:43 PM ET
I ate a cheese flavored dog biscuit before.
- Streit2ThePoint


That's considered a delicacy in some cultures.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 29 @ 3:43 PM ET
He probably said, "I BET YOU DON'T EVEN LIKE BACON!" and the ref was like, "STEVE, THAT'S NONSENSE, EVERY LIKES BACON. I FIND THAT TO BE A PERSONAL ATTACK ON MYSELF AND EVERY OTHER GOOD BACON-LOVING PERSON IN THE WORLD!"

Yeah, they said it all in caps, too.

- jmatchett383

"Dude, a hot dog is most definitely not a sandwich."
"Bread. Meat. Bread. Come on!"
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 3:43 PM ET
You're incorrect, I did not argue, disagree with , or refute that he had a head cold at any point in the conversation. I don't know how you came to that conclusion, but somehow you did.
- MJL


Fantastic, you're more right again.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Jan 29 @ 3:45 PM ET
As a kid, it is kind of intriguing.
- jmatchett383

I think I would rather poop in the litter box just to piss off the cat.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 3:46 PM ET
I think I would rather poop in the litter box just to piss off the cat.
- GOA88


But then you'd have to squat and wipe.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 29 @ 3:47 PM ET
He played the entire game from the point of when he relieved Emery, including OT and the shootout, and played very well.
- MJL


There's also this:

Steve Mason said he "felt great" waking up yesterday morning after being thrown back into the fire on Tuesday night, making his first appearance in 17 days after not so much as practicing. He said short of strengthening the muscle around his right knee injury, there isn't much else he needs to do.

http://www.philly.com/phi....html#j4m0jTcZUi5IedjA.99
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Jan 29 @ 3:47 PM ET
But then you'd have to squat and wipe.
- jmatchett383

The reaction of the cat would make it all worth it!
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 29 @ 3:48 PM ET


Humans can err. It's not a hard concept to grasp.

Of course the training staff put their heads together. Of course they know more about the situation than any of us. Of course they made what they thought was the best decision. I, personally, do trust the training staff on the decisions they make. But not blindly.

But sometimes that can end up being not the best decision.

How hard is that? How mother(frank)ing hard is that to understand? There's no assumptions happening. MAYBE it was the wrong choice. MAYBE he shouldn't have played. MAYBE the training staff messed up.

Jesus. They're not infallible.

If we can't assume anything, then why are you assuming the training staff is just 100% right all the time, regardless of hindsight? Why are you so incorrigible? What is with the hivemind?

Just be open and accept others' thoughts. You don't have to agree. Just accept.

Good lord.

Personally, I see no issue rolling Mase out there if the staff and the player deem it a go. But I'm not fighting a crusade.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 29 @ 3:56 PM ET


Humans can err. It's not a hard concept to grasp.

Of course the training staff put their heads together. Of course they know more about the situation than any of us. Of course they made what they thought was the best decision. I, personally, do trust the training staff on the decisions they make. But not blindly.

But sometimes that can end up being not the best decision.

How hard is that? How mother(frank)ing hard is that to understand? There's no assumptions happening. MAYBE it was the wrong choice. MAYBE he shouldn't have played. MAYBE the training staff messed up.

Jesus. They're not infallible.

If we can't assume anything, then why are you assuming the training staff is just 100% right all the time, regardless of hindsight? Why are you so incorrigible? What is with the hivemind?

Just be open and accept others' thoughts. You don't have to agree. Just accept.

Good lord.

Personally, I see no issue rolling Mase out there if the staff and the player deem it a go. But I'm not fighting a crusade.


- Giroux_Is_God



I don't know about anybody else, but I'm not going to criticize a decision the team makes in putting a player in the lineup, based on the premise that they aren't infallible, when the factual evidence suggests that the decision wasn't a bad decision. Humans can err, and they can also not err. Or should we ignore that side of the equation?
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jan 29 @ 3:56 PM ET
this could be posted every day in bill's thread.
- aightwebang17

Usually multiple times a day.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 4:00 PM ET
I don't know about anybody else, but I'm not going to criticize a decision the team makes in putting a player in the lineup, based on the premise that they aren't infallible, when the factual evidence suggests that the decision wasn't a bad decision. Humans can err, and they can also not err. Or should we ignore that side of the equation?
- MJL


If that's the case, then the staff can never be wrong:

He plays the game and doesn't get hurt: "See, he's fine, there was no reason or him not to play."

He plays the game and does get hurt: "Well, they made the best decision they could and nothing indicated that he was at further risk."
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 29 @ 4:03 PM ET


- Giroux_Is_God

PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jan 29 @ 4:03 PM ET
I don't know about anybody else, but I'm not going to criticize a decision the team makes in putting a player in the lineup, based on the premise that they aren't infallible, when the factual evidence suggests that the decision wasn't a bad decision. Humans can err, and they can also not err. Or should we ignore that side of the equation?
- MJL

Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jan 29 @ 4:03 PM ET
Straka in the lineup again right?
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jan 29 @ 4:04 PM ET
Straka in the lineup again right?
- Pixote Andolini

I think so yes.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 29 @ 4:05 PM ET
If that's the case, then the staff can never be wrong:

He plays the game and doesn't get hurt: "See, he's fine, there was no reason or him not to play."

He plays the game and does get hurt: "Well, they made the best decision they could and nothing indicated that he was at further risk."

- jmatchett383



That is not the case, they certainly can be wrong. And if the evidence suggests that they were wrong in making a decision, then the criticism is valid. Unless we want to criticize them for the decision because he could've gotten hurt. If that's the case then the staff can never be right.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 29 @ 4:15 PM ET
I ate a cheese flavored dog biscuit before.
- Streit2ThePoint


And…
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 4:20 PM ET
That is not the case, they certainly can be wrong. And if the evidence suggests that they were wrong in making a decision, then the criticism is valid. Unless we want to criticize them for the decision because he could've gotten hurt. If that's the case then the staff can never be right.
- MJL


So, THEORETICALLY...had Mason been reinjured during the game, would have have said that the team was wrong to put him in the lineup?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 29 @ 4:23 PM ET
Injuries can heal. There's a difference between worrying about injuries, and calling out the lame duck coach and saying that he is going to run Mason into the ground to save his job.
- MJL


Alright Alright....lame goose coach
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 29 @ 4:25 PM ET
Simon Gagne and JVR both played games with concussion symptoms and cost themselves lengthy time away from the game, but I think the staff has only been actually sued a handful of times.
- mayorofangrytown

So did Jeremy Roenick and Eric Lindros.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 29 @ 4:31 PM ET


Humans can err. It's not a hard concept to grasp.

Of course the training staff put their heads together. Of course they know more about the situation than any of us. Of course they made what they thought was the best decision. I, personally, do trust the training staff on the decisions they make. But not blindly.

But sometimes that can end up being not the best decision.

How hard is that? How mother(frank)ing hard is that to understand? There's no assumptions happening. MAYBE it was the wrong choice. MAYBE he shouldn't have played. MAYBE the training staff messed up.

Jesus. They're not infallible.

If we can't assume anything, then why are you assuming the training staff is just 100% right all the time, regardless of hindsight? Why are you so incorrigible? What is with the hivemind?

Just be open and accept others' thoughts. You don't have to agree. Just accept.

Good lord.

Personally, I see no issue rolling Mase out there if the staff and the player deem it a go. But I'm not fighting a crusade.


- Giroux_Is_God


Epic.
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