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GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Jan 29 @ 3:07 PM ET
I didn't see the game. Did it happen during this fight?


- MBFlyerfan

Only thing I see of any importance is Downie getting lit up. Other than that, nothing to talk about. IMO
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 29 @ 3:09 PM ET
Only thing I see of any importance is Downie getting lit up. Other than that, nothing to talk about. IMO
- GOA88



I noticed Downie sort of had hold of the linesman's jersey while he was yelling at the ref. Was that it?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 3:10 PM ET
Dumb luck is an assumption. That Mason came in and played without issue, and played well, is direct evidence that he was capable of playing in that game.
- MJL

Coming out the other side uninjured isn't direct evidence that crossing a four lane highway with your eyes closed is a good idea.

They took a risk and came out okay. That doesn't justify the risk. Paint it any way you want. You assuming there was no risk because there was no injury is hind sight and faulty logic.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 29 @ 3:11 PM ET
Coming out the other side uninjured isn't direct evidence that crossing a four lane highway with your eyes closed is a good idea.

They took a risk and came out okay. That doesn't justify the risk. Paint it any way you want. You assuming there was no risk because there was no injury is hind sight and faulty logic.

- mayorofangrytown



If he was limping and had a giant ice bag on his knee, I would hardly say he got through the game without issue.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 3:12 PM ET
If he was limping and had a giant ice bag on his knee, I would hardly say he got through the game without issue.
- MBFlyerfan

There's that.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 3:13 PM ET
I noticed Downie sort of had hold of the linesman's jersey while he was yelling at the ref. Was that it?
- MBFlyerfan


Yeah, that's what it was.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 29 @ 3:14 PM ET
Coming out the other side uninjured isn't direct evidence that crossing a four lane highway with your eyes closed is a good idea.

They took a risk and came out okay. That doesn't justify the risk. Paint it any way you want. You assuming there was no risk because there was no injury is hind sight and faulty logic.

- mayorofangrytown



The only problem with your analogy is that Mason playing in that game is not the equivalent of crossing a four lane highway with your eyes closed. There is an inherent and real danger for anyone at anytime to cross a four lane highway with their eyes closed. That is not the case for Mason playing in that game, other then the normal risks for any player, playing Hockey. Saying they took a risk is also an assumption. Obviously the Flyers and their medical staff thought that he was capable of playing.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 3:16 PM ET
Coming out the other side uninjured isn't direct evidence that crossing a four lane highway with your eyes closed is a good idea.

They took a risk and came out okay. That doesn't justify the risk. Paint it any way you want. You assuming there was no risk because there was no injury is hind sight and faulty logic.

- mayorofangrytown


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 3:16 PM ET
The only problem with your analogy is that Mason playing in that game is not the equivalent of crossing a four lane highway with your eyes closed. There is an inherent and real danger for anyone at anytime to cross a four lane highway with their eyes closed. That is not the case for Mason playing in that game, other then the normal risks for any player, playing Hockey. Saying they took a risk is also an assumption. Obviously the Flyers and their medical staff thought that he was capable of playing.
- MJL


Capable of playing and capable of playing in perfect health are 2 different things.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jan 29 @ 3:17 PM ET
Yeah, that's what it was.
- jmatchett383

Was it more directed towards what he said? I didn't watch the game and work is blocking what you guys posted.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jan 29 @ 3:17 PM ET
Wouldn't be Philadelphia without goalie controversies.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 29 @ 3:19 PM ET

- jmatchett383

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 3:19 PM ET
Was it more directed towards what he said? I didn't watch the game and work is blocking what you guys posted.
- FlyersGrace


He probably said, "I BET YOU DON'T EVEN LIKE BACON!" and the ref was like, "STEVE, THAT'S NONSENSE, EVERY LIKES BACON. I FIND THAT TO BE A PERSONAL ATTACK ON MYSELF AND EVERY OTHER GOOD BACON-LOVING PERSON IN THE WORLD!"

Yeah, they said it all in caps, too.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 3:21 PM ET
The only problem with your analogy is that Mason playing in that game is not the equivalent of crossing a four lane highway with your eyes closed. There is an inherent and real danger for anyone at anytime to cross a four lane highway with their eyes closed. That is not the case for Mason playing in that game, other then the normal risks for any player, playing Hockey. Saying they took a risk is also an assumption. Obviously the Flyers and their medical staff thought that he was capable of playing.
- MJL

Obviously.

That's what I put all my faith in. The track record of the Flyers and their medical staff. They've been spot on in the past. There's no good reason to question their decision making processes...

You know, if you're a (frank)ing sheep.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 29 @ 3:22 PM ET
Capable of playing and capable of playing in perfect health are 2 different things.
- jmatchett383



Over the course of an NHL season, players play all the time at less then 100%. It's part of the game. If the Flyers thought that Mason wasn't capable of playing, and that playing put him at further risk, I don't think he would've dressed as the backup.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 3:23 PM ET
Obviously.

That's what I put all my faith in. The track record of the Flyers and their medical staff. They've been spot on in the past. There's no good reason to question their decision making processes...

You know, if you're a (frank)ing sheep.

- mayorofangrytown


"Yeah, Eric, get on the plane, you're fine."
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 29 @ 3:23 PM ET
Over the course of an NHL season, players play all the time at less then 100%. It's part of the game. If the Flyers thought that Mason wasn't capable of playing, and that playing put him at further risk, I don't think he would've dressed as the backup.
- MJL


I didn't say it put him at further risk. I said he had a head cold, which he admitted to after the game. That's why I think Emery started over him. Where did I ever say otherwise?
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jan 29 @ 3:24 PM ET
Over the course of an NHL season, players play all the time at less then 100%. It's part of the game. If the Flyers thought that Mason wasn't capable of playing, and that playing put him at further risk, I don't think he would've dressed as the backup.
- MJL


I seriously can't believe were still talking about this. How hard is this to understand^^^?

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 3:25 PM ET
"Yeah, Eric, get on the plane, you're fine."
- jmatchett383

Simon Gagne and JVR both played games with concussion symptoms and cost themselves lengthy time away from the game, but I think the staff has only been actually sued a handful of times.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jan 29 @ 3:26 PM ET
I seriously can't believe were still talking about this. How hard is this to understand^^^?
- mochoson

this could be posted every day in bill's thread.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 3:26 PM ET
I seriously can't believe were still talking about this. How hard is this to understand^^^?
- mochoson

Depends on what side you're on. I lost track.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 29 @ 3:27 PM ET
Obviously.

That's what I put all my faith in. The track record of the Flyers and their medical staff. They've been spot on in the past. There's no good reason to question their decision making processes...

You know, if you're a (frank)ing sheep.

- mayorofangrytown



My opinion on it is that there isn't a fan who has more insight and information available to them then the team does. That includes the GM, coaches, and medical doctors who have actually examined the player. Not to mention feedback from the player. Unless of course you want to look back in history and see a past incident, and just assume because something happened in the past, then we should doubt and criticize this situation. Rather then look at the available facts.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 3:27 PM ET
this could be posted every day in bill's thread.
- aightwebang17

It is.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jan 29 @ 3:28 PM ET
My opinion on it is that there isn't a fan who has more insight and information available to them then the team does. That includes the GM, coaches, and medical doctors who have actually examined the player. Not to mention feedback from the player. Unless of course you want to look back in history and see a past incident, and just assume because something happened in the past, then we should doubt and criticize this situation. Rather then look at the available facts.
- MJL

I want to be your stock broker. How much you got?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 29 @ 3:29 PM ET
I didn't say it put him at further risk. I said he had a head cold, which he admitted to after the game. That's why I think Emery started over him. Where did I ever say otherwise?
- jmatchett383



I didn't say that you did say that, nor was it my intent to imply that you did. It's simply a statement on the situation, and what I think happened.
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