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Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jan 29 @ 9:05 AM ET
I actually thought about Stewart, but evidently people are saying that he is totally done as a player.
- nbartley9

If the price is right I'd go for it. Big body to play 3rd or 2nd line. Winnik would be the other piece. Boom. Suddenly we are a stronger and harder team to play against.
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Jan 29 @ 9:08 AM ET
I actually thought about Stewart, but evidently people are saying that he is totally done as a player.
- nbartley9


I've been for it, although now I'm not sure who it takes and how we clear cap.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jan 29 @ 9:09 AM ET
If the price is right I'd go for it. Big body to play 3rd or 2nd line. Winnik would be the other piece. Boom. Suddenly we are a stronger and harder team to play against.
- Barnaby36

Stewart is a slug, Winnik or Bergenheim are the go to guys right now.

I'd also dangle Sutter out there. See what his value is at.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Jan 29 @ 9:11 AM ET
Stewart is a slug, Winnik or Bergenheim are the go to guys right now.

I'd also dangle Sutter out there. See what his value is at.

- usethe1-2-2

Coat hanger, bottle of asparagus urine, and a car filled with lazy midgets.
PensFan1103
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 06.30.2010

Jan 29 @ 9:22 AM ET
Coat hanger, bottle of asparagus urine, and a car filled with lazy midgets.
- nbartley9

Wait, wait, wait. Are you saying we would be able to get all 3 of those? Or those are 3 separate options. Because if it's all 3, I am sold. If we have to pick out of those options, I'm not sure it's quite enough, but I may consider the car filled with lazy midgets.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Jan 29 @ 9:24 AM ET
Wait, wait, wait. Are you saying we would be able to get all 3 of those? Or those are 3 separate options. Because if it's all 3, I am sold. If we have to pick out of those options, I'm not sure it's quite enough, but I may consider the car filled with lazy midgets.
- PensFan1103

I hear that a few teams will throw in a blind clown, but that's the absolute limit.
87_71_11_29
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: In a van down by the river, PA
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 29 @ 9:25 AM ET
Did you see him get absolutely tossed around when Perron was punching the player on top of Tanger? All of a sudden there goes Sutturd flying across the ice, like a rag doll.
- nbartley9

Yeah he gets tossed every firkin game at least once.

One of the weakest players I have ever seen.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 29 @ 9:26 AM ET
i thought you were here for your good looks and charming personality?
- SuperHenderson13

You can consider those a bonus
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 29 @ 9:27 AM ET
Another game less about hockey than who hits harder/is more annoying. I like getting tougher, but these types of games are not playing to our strengths
- YouMeAndDupuis9

can't believe the Flyers made the Pens play like that again smh
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jan 29 @ 9:32 AM ET
Stewart is a slug, Winnik or Bergenheim are the go to guys right now.

I'd also dangle Sutter out there. See what his value is at.

- usethe1-2-2


Agree on all of this.

We would have to clear close to $4M in cap space for Stewart and thats just way too risky.

Winnik and Berg are great targets as long as they come fairly cheap.

I would love to make a Sutter-based trade for Hanzal or Vermette.
87_71_11_29
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: In a van down by the river, PA
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 29 @ 9:33 AM ET
can't believe the Flyers made the Pens play like that again smh
- BulliesPhan87

Lol. I think the Pens posters on this board are finally coming to the realization a few of us have had all along...

Team has too many p*ssies and too few leaders on it!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 29 @ 9:35 AM ET
Lol. I think the Pens posters on this board are finally coming to the realization a few of us have had all along...

Team has too many p*ssies and too few leaders on it!

- 87_71_11_29

Trade Malkin
Give Downie the C
Call up Godard, offer him a spot on the first line

TUFF. E. NUFF.
Conse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rio de Janeiro
Joined: 11.27.2013

Jan 29 @ 9:36 AM ET
Sometimes I really don't understand MJ.

Against the Jets he used Perron - Sutter - Horny and they did well.
Crosby comes back and instead of changing Sutter for him, he juggles all the lines.

Both Perron and Horny showed instant chemistry with Sid. Kuni and Bennett played really well with Sutter last december.

But then MJ goes for:
Kuni - Sid - Perron,
Bennett on his off hand - Sutter - Hornqvist.

I mean, why???

JLT168
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PGH, PA
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jan 29 @ 9:37 AM ET
Lol. I think the Pens posters on this board are finally coming to the realization a few of us have had all along...

Team has too many p*ssies and too few leaders on it!

- 87_71_11_29


lappy and downie should not be playing together, bartley you hit that on the nose...those guys need better players around them to be effective...neither of them are better players playing together

sid looks frustrated and frankly I barely noticed that first line out there yesterday, perron is our best offensive piece right now it seems

id take a flyer on stewart if he didnt cost much, and sutter is worthless, he shows moments of hope and then it all comes crashing back down to earth in a fireball...

as much as I like kunitz he just hasnt been doing it for me the last year or 2...winnik would be nice, glencross would be nice but calgary isnt getting rid of him...komorov from toronto would be great, he could actually make downie or lappy a better player I think...
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 29 @ 9:49 AM ET
Sometimes I really don't understand MJ.

Against the Jets he used Perron - Sutter - Horny and they did well.
Crosby comes back and instead of changing Sutter for him, he juggles all the lines.

Both Perron and Horny showed instant chemistry with Sid. Kuni and Bennett played really well with Sutter last december.

But then MJ goes for:
Kuni - Sid - Perron,
Bennett on his off hand - Sutter - Hornqvist.

I mean, why???

- Conse


Seems to be a tad more experimenting due to Malkin being out.

Doing this is just "okay" now... its past the halfway mark of the season, but with one of the 2 big stars out, I guess its not the worst thing to do to test the waters on some pairings.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 29 @ 9:49 AM ET
lappy and downie should not be playing together, bartley you hit that on the nose...those guys need better players around them to be effective...neither of them are better players playing together

sid looks frustrated and frankly I barely noticed that first line out there yesterday, perron is our best offensive piece right now it seems

id take a flyer on stewart if he didnt cost much, and sutter is worthless, he shows moments of hope and then it all comes crashing back down to earth in a fireball...

as much as I like kunitz he just hasnt been doing it for me the last year or 2...winnik would be nice, glencross would be nice but calgary isnt getting rid of him...komorov from toronto would be great, he could actually make downie or lappy a better player I think...

- JLT168


So wait,

Kunitz (coming off of his best statistical season) hasnt been doing it, but Winnik, Glencross and Komorov are good options?


Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 29 @ 9:51 AM ET
lappy and downie should not be playing together, bartley you hit that on the nose...those guys need better players around them to be effective...neither of them are better players playing together

sid looks frustrated and frankly I barely noticed that first line out there yesterday, perron is our best offensive piece right now it seems

id take a flyer on stewart if he didnt cost much, and sutter is worthless, he shows moments of hope and then it all comes crashing back down to earth in a fireball...

as much as I like kunitz he just hasnt been doing it for me the last year or 2...winnik would be nice, glencross would be nice but calgary isnt getting rid of him...komorov from toronto would be great, he could actually make downie or lappy a better player I think...

- JLT168



30 points in 40 games this season, with a plethora of injuries all over the place to work with.
Gotta be honest... your opinion on Kunitz is just bad, stupid, and VERY ignorant. On pace for 60 points while being shuffled between the top 3 lines and all of this team's experimenting.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jan 29 @ 9:52 AM ET
Sutter+ (give me a light to it) to Florida.

Bergenheim/Kopecky to Pittsburgh.

JLT168
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PGH, PA
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jan 29 @ 9:53 AM ET
So wait,

Kunitz (coming off of his best statistical season) hasnt been doing it, but Winnik, Glencross and Komorov are good options?

- jak521


I hear what you are saying, its valid, but as far as the eye test hes lost a step and not the same forechecker he once was. I am not saying any of those 3 guys would be a viable top 6 option whatsoever...but if we were bringing in another top 6, jagr, which would be surprising but is possible, then that could make kuni expendable and we could bring a better grittier bottom 6 guy in...
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jan 29 @ 9:57 AM ET
Sutter+ (give me a light to it) to Florida.

Bergenheim/Kopecky to Pittsburgh.

- Barnaby36

Just thinking about salary it'd have to be Scuds right?
JLT168
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PGH, PA
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jan 29 @ 10:02 AM ET


30 points in 40 games this season, with a plethora of injuries all over the place to work with.
Gotta be honest... your opinion on Kunitz is just bad, stupid, and VERY ignorant. On pace for 60 points while being shuffled between the top 3 lines and all of this team's experimenting.

- Guile



calm down dude no need to take it personally...point wise there is no arguing, but he just seems to have lost a step to me, and he isnt the checker he once was
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jan 29 @ 10:12 AM ET
Just thinking about salary it'd have to be Scuds right?
- dbell646

I was going to throw his name ou there but I don't think Florida would buy into that.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 29 @ 10:13 AM ET
lappy and downie should not be playing together, bartley you hit that on the nose...those guys need better players around them to be effective...neither of them are better players playing together

sid looks frustrated and frankly I barely noticed that first line out there yesterday, perron is our best offensive piece right now it seems

id take a flyer on stewart if he didnt cost much, and sutter is worthless, he shows moments of hope and then it all comes crashing back down to earth in a fireball...

as much as I like kunitz he just hasnt been doing it for me the last year or 2...winnik would be nice, glencross would be nice but calgary isnt getting rid of him...komorov from toronto would be great, he could actually make downie or lappy a better player I think...

- JLT168

My guess would be if Crosby looks frustrated it’s because he’s not 100% healthy and unable to play at the level he wants to. Tavares had some issues earlier this year with his knee where he just didn’t look 100% and his frustration was pretty evident.

The good news is that there’s a lot of time before the playoffs and if needed, you guys could have Crosby sit for a couple of weeks if it gets him back to 100% and likely not lose your spot in the division. When you get everyone back healthy it should be pretty interesting to see if the team gets on a big roll.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jan 29 @ 10:14 AM ET
Just thinking about salary it'd have to be Scuds right?
- dbell646


Ehrhoff's health pending, we have to keep Scuderi unfortunately. The only silver lining if Ehrhoff ends up being out for a little bit is we should get that extended look at Pouliot weve been wanting.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jan 29 @ 10:14 AM ET
Just thinking about salary it'd have to be Scuds right?
- dbell646


Ehrhoff's health pending, we have to keep Scuderi unfortunately. The only silver lining if Ehrhoff ends up being out for a little bit is we should get that extended look at Pouliot weve been wanting.
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