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NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jan 28 @ 12:50 PM ET
This trade may have been proposed here a while back, but what would you guys think about Read to the Jets for a 2nd and the rights to Burmistrov if the Flyers are 10 points out of a playoff spot a month from now?
- Feanor


Tempting if what Burmistrov says is true about wanting to come back to the NHL. However, Read is a valuable, two-way player that has proven himself at the NHL level unlike Burmistrov. The 2nd makes it enticing. Ultimately, I think I'd pass though.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jan 28 @ 12:51 PM ET
if we lose games we might have a chance at lawson crousse
- 2Real

Don't want to lose to Leafs Saturday night. That is one team I hate loosing to.
I am telling you. TRY to move Coburn and Streit to contending teams for their1st round picks then we can make numerous moves at draft. Move up, trade picks, ...lots of good things
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 28 @ 12:55 PM ET
This trade may have been proposed here a while back, but what would you guys think about Read to the Jets for a 2nd and the rights to Burmistrov if the Flyers are 10 points out of a playoff spot a month from now?
- Feanor


It's more than fair value, but I'd still rather keep Read. I think he's about to break out of his slump.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 28 @ 12:56 PM ET




Good night for the Couturier line and the Carlo-Amac pairing.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 28 @ 12:58 PM ET
You're probably spot on.

http://www.businessinside...er-13-concussions-2014-10

JR was a good Flyer though. He was a battler.

- Lexington Flyer


I had no problem with him as a Flyer or as a commentator until he started beaking off about how Mason isnt' good enough of a tender for us to win with.. it's like, watch the guy play man..
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 28 @ 1:02 PM ET
Don't want to lose to Leafs Saturday night. That is one team I hate loosing to.
I am telling you. TRY to move Coburn and Streit to contending teams for their1st round picks then we can make numerous moves at draft. Move up, trade picks, ...lots of good things

- 3flyerkids

there is no try there's only do or do not
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 28 @ 1:03 PM ET




Good night for the Couturier line and the Carlo-Amac pairing.

- PhillySportsGuy

yea but who were they paired against
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 28 @ 1:04 PM ET
I had no problem with him as a Flyer or as a commentator until he started beaking off about how Mason isnt' good enough of a tender for us to win with.. it's like, watch the guy play man..
- Hextall271


JR was always a "talk first, think later" kind of guy, in my opinion.

I liked JR when he was here, if only for sending Toronto packing that one playoff series.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jan 28 @ 1:07 PM ET
Tempting if what Burmistrov says is true about wanting to come back to the NHL. However, Read is a valuable, two-way player that has proven himself at the NHL level unlike Burmistrov. The 2nd makes it enticing. Ultimately, I think I'd pass though.
- NickTheKid87


I'll drive Matt Read to the airpot myself. More then fair value IMO.

Read is already approaching 30 and has years and term. I'm not shopping him, but thats an offer I like a lot. You have to think long term. Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Schenn, Couturier, Laughton, Raffl all look like guys that could be in the top 9 for awhile; maybe Bellmare as well? As of right now, it appears we are stuck with Umberger and Lecavalier for some term as well. They are obviously not in long term plans, but in the short term they have to be accounted for from a cap stand point.

This is without considering guys like Nick Cousins (already has more points than all of last year in only 40ish games) Taylor Leier, Aube Kubel, whatever (if any) forwards we draft this year, etc. Lots of bodies.

Am I shopping Matt Read? Of course not. No reason to "shop" guys like him or Streit IMO. But would I seriously consider offers for them? Of course. A 2nd and the rights to Burmistrov is more than fair for Matt Read. A player like Streit would require a serious overpayment for me, but even he's someone I'd consider moving. The list of untouchables should be very, very small.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 28 @ 1:07 PM ET
Post practice update blog upcoming.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 28 @ 1:07 PM ET
there is no try there's only do or do not
- 2Real

yeah, ok spock
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 28 @ 1:14 PM ET
This trade may have been proposed here a while back, but what would you guys think about Read to the Jets for a 2nd and the rights to Burmistrov if the Flyers are 10 points out of a playoff spot a month from now?
- Feanor


PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 28 @ 1:18 PM ET
yea but who were they paired against
- 2Real


Don't know, but a +9 in scoring chances is good no matter who you play against.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 28 @ 1:18 PM ET
yeah, ok spock
- BulliesPhan87

you either want better players on this team or you don't there's no in between
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 28 @ 1:18 PM ET
Don't know, but a +9 in scoring chances is good no matter who you play against.
- PhillySportsGuy

if you're playing against 4th liners like rinaldo it's easy
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 1:19 PM ET
Tempting if what Burmistrov says is true about wanting to come back to the NHL. However, Read is a valuable, two-way player that has proven himself at the NHL level unlike Burmistrov. The 2nd makes it enticing. Ultimately, I think I'd pass though.
- NickTheKid87



I'd turn that deal down in record time. Wouldn't even get a conversation started.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 28 @ 1:19 PM ET
Don't know, but a +9 in scoring chances is good no matter who you play against.
- PhillySportsGuy


Umberger must have had 5-6 of those by himself, lol.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 28 @ 1:21 PM ET
you either want better players on this team or you don't there's no in between
- 2Real

you're not the boss of me, I'll want whatever I wanna do
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 28 @ 1:21 PM ET
yea but who were they paired against
- 2Real


Umberger mainly played against Ganger, OEL, Yandle, Michalek, Stone and Hanzal.

MacDonald mainly played against Korpikoski, Yandle, Stone, Murphy and Gagner.

http://www.naturalstattri...eason=20142015&game=20698
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 28 @ 1:23 PM ET
if you're playing against 4th liners like rinaldo it's easy
- 2Real


A lot of the chances came with the Flyers 3rd line on the ice, so I imagine it was against some pretty good competition.

It's one good game out of a lot of bad games. Still, it was a good game for Amac and the Couts line.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 28 @ 1:25 PM ET
Umberger must have had 5-6 of those by himself, lol.
- Tomahawk


He definitely reaped the benefits. I thought Read was the biggest reason that line created so many chances.

Edit: The +9 scoring chances was in regards to Amac
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 1:27 PM ET
He definitely reaped the benefits. I thought Read was the biggest reason that line created so many chances.

Edit: The +9 scoring chances was in regards to Amac

- PhillySportsGuy



I agree that Read had a strong game, but so did Umberger. Umberger was one of the best Flyer forwards last night.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 28 @ 1:27 PM ET
He definitely reaped the benefits. I thought Read was the biggest reason that line created so many chances.

Edit: The +9 scoring chances was in regards to Amac

- PhillySportsGuy


Seems like he accrued most of those pluses behind Umberger's line.

Umby was getting set up on a tee all night, lol.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 28 @ 1:27 PM ET
A lot of the chances came with the Flyers 3rd line on the ice, so I imagine it was against some pretty good competition.

It's one good game out of a lot of bad games. Still, it was a good game for Amac and the Couts line.

- PhillySportsGuy

still i'd like to see who amac was out on the ice against
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 28 @ 1:28 PM ET
I agree that Read had a strong game, but so did Umberger. Umberger was one of the best Flyer forwards last night.
- MJL

no but umberger is a zombie and useless he contributes nothing to the flyers RIGHT?
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