I don't f*cking get it, I really don't understand why he is always the fall guy when the team is fully healthy.
- MidnightMarauder

I have never been a big advocate of scratching a healthy player to send a message in order to get him going, but when Zuccarello got healthy scratched last year he went on a tear the rest of the way. Maybe they should consider it again.

Hayes, Fast and Glass? That is just a weird line.
- Pete V

Weird as in horrible? Yea, I agree. It angers me that Vigneault has such a small amount of patience with Miller but Glass, Fast, Hayes and Moore can play like sh!t, most of the time, and keep getting chances to redeem themselves.

I don't f*cking get it, I really don't understand why he is always the fall guy when the team is fully healthy.
- MidnightMarauder

Who knows? There could be more to it. Most people assume that AV doesn't like the kid because he has questioned his commitment, sent him to the minors, and now press boxes his *ss. But, coaches deal with all players differently, and maybe AV sees Miller as a kid with the type of personality who will get better because of the punishments -- i.e., riding a player you like to make them better.

I have never been a big advocate of scratching a healthy player to send a message in order to get him going, but when Zuccarello got healthy scratched last year he went on a tear the rest of the way. Maybe they should consider it again.
- jimbro83

After watching last night's game Vigneault is well within his right to sit Zuccarello out.

Miller was one of the few forwards that played with any sort of fire last night. I don't get why he has it in for Miller and everyone else can play like sh!t and they get a pass.

I don't f*cking get it, I really don't understand why he is always the fall guy when the team is fully healthy.
- MidnightMarauder

The fact that Glass gets in over him is where AV sucks, complacency sets in pretty quickly with this group and the coaching staff, 16 out of 20 is great but when one team exposes you its time to fix it, taking Miller out is not that fix, I love Hayes, he is gonna be a really good player but he along with the bottom 6 and Zucc are not getting the job done, they are being carried by Step, Nash, Brassard at times (4-13 on draws and 5 giveaways last night), MSL and Kreider of late has been better of late

Who knows? There could be more to it. Most people assume that AV doesn't like the kid because he has questioned his commitment, sent him to the minors, and now press boxes his *ss. But, coaches deal with all players differently, and maybe AV sees Miller as a kid with the type of personality who will get better because of the punishments -- i.e., riding a player you like to make them better.
- Pete V

That's the thing, Miller wans't bad last night. How much can you expect of a player when he is saddled with players like Glass and Moore?

I love Dom Moore as much as the next Rangers fan, but let's be honest here, he's sucked this season. The bottom lines have been mediocre to sub par than good or better than average. Subbing Miller out is not going to help this issue at all. Look at those bottom lines:

Hagelin-Moore-Stempniak

Glass-Hayes-Fast

That is a f*cking eyesore.

That's the thing, Miller wans't bad last night. How much can you expect of a player when he is saddled with players like Glass and Moore?

I love Dom Moore as much as the next Rangers fan, but let's be honest here, he's sucked this season. The bottom lines have been mediocre to sub par than good or better than average. Subbing Miller out is not going to help this issue at all. Look at those bottom lines:

Hagelin-Moore-Stempniak

Glass-Hayes-Fast

That is a f*cking eyesore.
- MidnightMarauder

I rather make a trade or call someone up than go with that bottom arrangement

The fact that Glass gets in over him is where AV sucks, complacency sets in pretty quickly with this group and the coaching staff, 16 out of 20 is great but when one team exposes you its time to fix it, taking Miller out is not that fix, I love Hayes, he is gonna be a really good player but he along with the bottom 6 and Zucc are not getting the job done, they are being carried by Step, Nash, Brassard at times (4-13 on draws and 5 giveaways last night), MSL and Kreider of late has been better of late
- HankdaTank

I can think of four or five forwards to sit out, based off of last night's performance, other than Miller.

That's the thing, Miller wans't bad last night. How much can you expect of a player when he is saddled with players like Glass and Moore?

I love Dom Moore as much as the next Rangers fan, but let's be honest here, he's sucked this season. The bottom lines have been mediocre to sub par than good or better than average. Subbing Miller out is not going to help this issue at all. Look at those bottom lines:

Hagelin-Moore-Stempniak

Glass-Hayes-Fast

That is a f*cking eyesore.
- MidnightMarauder

I'm having flashbacks to Pyatt - Halpern - Asham

I rather make a trade or call someone up than go with that bottom arrangement
- HankdaTank

I think the Rangers will make a trade or trades to help the bottom six, and as far as problems go, it's not that serious of one to have. Each of the pieces in the bottom six are o.k., but they just don't make much sense together.

I will say this, if Rangers fans want the bottom six to get better, it may come at the cost of a one of the current kids not playing as much (if at all).

I'm having flashbacks to Pyatt - Halpern - Asham
- rangerdanger94

Vigneault is seriously f*cking up here. Or maybe he is devaluing Miller so teams won't ask for him at the deadline.

If so, bravo Alain, bravo.

Vigneault is seriously f*cking up here. Or maybe he is devaluing Miller so teams won't ask for him at the deadline.

If so, bravo Alain, bravo.
- MidnightMarauder

Let's just trade for Jagr, and throw him on Hayes' right side. Move Hagelin up to play with Brass and Nash, and play Zucarello, Hayes and Jagr together. Then trade for Glencross, and play him on the fourth line with Miller and Moore.

Let's just trade for Jagr, and throw him on Hayes' right side. Move Hagelin up to play with Brass and Nash, and play Zucarello, Hayes and Jagr together. Then trade for Glencross, and play him on the fourth line with Miller and Moore.

- Pete V

I'm still up for Chris Stewart. Dude is gonna be playing for his NHL career in the playoffs.

Knew you would like that.
- MidnightMarauder

Pretty sure clutter did that in retaliation for Kreider crashing into halak whether it was intentional or not on Kreiders part.

I see you guys getting Neil from Ottawa
- Vukota

That would suck

I just read that Mike Richards will make more money in minors than he will in NHL, because he won't be subjected to escrow payments

So whats Zuccarello looking at for his next contract now?

So whats Zuccarello looking at for his next contract now?
- FourFeathers773

the dollar amount is dwindling on a daily basis

Staal always gives crosby the business


- FourFeathers773

Clean hit

I just read that Mike Richards will make more money in minors than he will in NHL, because he won't be subjected to escrow payments
- jimbro83

Maybe Jack Johnson should look into this considering how their season is going and his financial situation thanks to his mom and dad.

I rather make a trade or call someone up than go with that bottom arrangement
- HankdaTank

I didn't hear why duclair was sent back to juniors and thought he looked pretty good for you guys, was it a numbers decision due to the roster limit or had he tailed off a bit?

Clean hit
- Isles_since_6

That very exchange occurs in almost ever beer league hockey game I have ever played. I've done it to guys. I've had it done to me. I can't recall ever having a fight break out over one either. Staal does it to Crosby though and it's a murder one charge.

That very exchange occurs in almost ever beer league hockey game I have ever played. I've done it to guys. I've had it done to me. I can't recall ever having a fight break out over one either. Staal does it to Crosby though and it's a murder one charge.
- Maskdman3

Meh i dont know if you can call it a hockey play? Ive never labeled cross checks to the head as hockey plays. Lol. It was comical how the pens fans were describing Staal as a dirty player though and still do. Couldnt be further from the truth. That is one fan base that has a large demographic of clueless fans.

Meh i dont know if you can call it a hockey play? Ive never labeled cross checks to the head as hockey plays. Lol. It was comical how the pens fans were describing Staal as a dirty player though and still do. Couldnt be further from the truth. That is one fan base that has a large demographic of clueless fans.
- Cptmjl

Funny, when you look at the video, Staal isn't even looking at Crosby, he's looking at the puck coming at him. Staal is doing what every defenceman is taught. Only problem was Crosby was bent over like it was a late Friday night date. Staal never once looked at him, no intent.

Funny, when you look at the video, Staal isn't even looking at Crosby, he's looking at the puck coming at him. Staal is doing what every defenceman is taught. Only problem was Crosby was bent over like it was a late Friday night date. Staal never once looked at him, no intent.
- mdw7413

I remember when they were over here calling him dirty. Hysterical