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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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Not really. If we are tearing this bit×h down completely ...kadri can easilly be moved. And if hes asking 5 then no...even if thats market, we are rebuilding and in a different situation than competing teams that pay market. - clark_griswold
KAdri is going to get 5. He's young and improving. There isn't much reason to move him. |
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clark_griswold
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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He also said "show me where KAdri is getting better and I'll beleive you aren't 12 yrs old". - burn
Was it the president? |
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clark_griswold
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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KAdri is going to get 5. He's young and improving. There isn't much reason to move him. - burn
Depends on view. Retooling, you can keep him. Rebuilding, he can be moved. He'll be 29 after a full teardown /5 year rebuild. If we go full, its at least 5.
Either way he makes it easier if he finishes strong. If not...to me he hasnt earned it...and i know most on this team havent eaearned their $. No point on continuing the trend. its up to kadri now to show what he can do |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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Was it the president? - clark_griswold
no, The canuck fan.... |
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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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KAdri is going to get 5. He's young and improving. There isn't much reason to move him. - burn
He won't be moved. |
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clark_griswold
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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He won't be moved. - Pecafan Fan
Alright. |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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He won't be moved. - Pecafan Fan
I hope they go with Carecter over skill and deal that bum Kadri and keep Bozak. |
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burn
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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Depends on view. Retooling, you can keep him. Rebuilding, he can be moved. He'll be 29 after a full teardown /5 year rebuild. If we go full, its at least 5.
Either way he makes it easier if he finishes strong. If not...to me he hasnt earned it...and i know most on this team havent eaearned their $. No point on continuing the trend. its up to kadri now to show what he can do - clark_griswold
He can be moved, sure. But doesn't mean he should be. What are you going to trade him for?? A 1st rounder outside the top 10?? What would be the point of that? He's a good piece to have and makes no sense to throw him away becasue he'll be 29 when you think we'll be able to compete. |
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wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Canada Sucks, MI Joined: 01.31.2006
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5 million for Kadri. heck is wrong with this league.
scary to think what Tatar/Nyquist will get. |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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5 million for Kadri. heck is wrong with this league.
scary to think what Tatar/Nyquist will get. - wingz4life
HAve you seen what others are getting?? Bujkstad signed for over 4 mil and he's done what exactly?
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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Hope_Smoke @Hope_Smoke now
Dreger "if we get the Clarkson that scores 20 goals, but plays with grit, tenacity & jam that he had in NJ than we're ok with that too"
Haven't seen him. |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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5 million for Kadri. heck is wrong with this league.
scary to think what Tatar/Nyquist will get. - wingz4life
3mil each because Detroit. |
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clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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He can be moved, sure. But doesn't mean he should be. What are you going to trade him for?? A 1st rounder outside the top 10?? What would be the point of that? He's a good piece to have and makes no sense to throw him away becasue he'll be 29 when you think we'll be able to compete. - burn
He should be IF and only IF:
he plays poorly
Asks for too much
We get a good piece.
You or i have no way of knowing what his value is. It just seems like youre saying hes untouchable. Maybe im wrong.
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wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Canada Sucks, MI Joined: 01.31.2006
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HAve you seen what others are getting?? Bujkstad signed for over 4 mil and he's done what exactly? - burn
its Florida. mickey mouse organization.
same with EDM and RNH
i want to see what Pearson and Toffoli get out in LA |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Hope_Smoke @Hope_Smoke now
Dreger "if we get the Clarkson that scores 20 goals, but plays with grit, tenacity & jam that he had in NJ than we're ok with that too"
Haven't seen him. - burn
"Hey Darren, when were you employed by the Leafs? We? Do you mean you and your cousin?" |
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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Depends on view. Retooling, you can keep him. Rebuilding, he can be moved. He'll be 29 after a full teardown /5 year rebuild. If we go full, its at least 5.
Either way he makes it easier if he finishes strong. If not...to me he hasnt earned it...and i know most on this team havent eaearned their $. No point on continuing the trend. its up to kadri now to show what he can do - clark_griswold
You can't go full-out youth however, and have to keep some veterans in the lineup. If you have just kids with a couple of lower line vets then you'll get slaughtered. |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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He should be IF and only IF:
he plays poorly
Asks for too much
We get a good piece.
You or i have no way of knowing what his value is. It just seems like youre saying hes untouchable. Maybe im wrong. - clark_griswold
You are then..... I never once said that. I said there is no reason to trade him, never said he's untouchable. If someone comes asking and the deal is great, then sure. I'm saying they shouldn't be out there selling him, there is no need to. He's young and he's improving. they shouldn't be trying to trade him (and get back what a 20's 1st rounder, maybe in the teens??) you don't make that trade. |
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clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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HAve you seen what others are getting?? Bujkstad signed for over 4 mil and he's done what exactly? - burn
Doesn't mean it justifies dealing out contracts because others have. We have enough crap. We need to shed $ not add.
Also in bjustad, whenever i see him play is very responsible positionally. Defensively aware. And hes a big boy. If kadri asks 4, ya sign him. But him getting 5.5 is Gross. He had 1 good year and regressed offensively (hes an offensive player at the end of the day). Bjustads #s are very similar to kadris last 2 years |
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Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pain is coming Joined: 08.12.2010
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Hope_Smoke @Hope_Smoke now
Dreger "if we get the Clarkson that scores 20 goals, but plays with grit, tenacity & jam that he had in NJ than we're ok with that too"
Haven't seen him. - burn
Oh come on now, we've seen that 3 or 4 games since he signed... Easily
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clark_griswold
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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You can't go full-out youth however, and have to keep some veterans in the lineup. If you have just kids with a couple of lower line vets then you'll get slaughtered. - lumlums
Like we are now? Or are the last 4 years a result of bad bounces? |
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clark_griswold
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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You are then..... I never once said that. I said there is no reason to trade him, never said he's untouchable. If someone comes asking and the deal is great, then sure. I'm saying they shouldn't be out there selling him, there is no need to. He's young and he's improving. they shouldn't be trying to trade him (and get back what a 20's 1st rounder, maybe in the teens??) you don't make that trade. - burn
Again you are assuming his market. If he has a terrible finish to the year, u still sign him at 5+?
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gravyface
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Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown Joined: 02.19.2009
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Oh come on now, we've seen that 3 or 4 games since he signed... Easily - Big_Lightnin
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I hope they go with Carecter over skill and deal that bum Kadri and keep Bozak. - AdamFrench
Oh Oh! You did not just go there! |
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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Doesn't mean it justifies dealing out contracts because others have. We have enough crap. We need to shed $ not add.
Also in bjustad, whenever i see him play is very responsible positionally. Defensively aware. And hes a big boy. If kadri asks 4, ya sign him. But him getting 5.5 is Gross. He had 1 good year and regressed offensively (hes an offensive player at the end of the day). Bjustads #s are very similar to kadris last 2 years - clark_griswold
Why the need to shed $ if you're rebuilding? Are you an owner? Is there going to be a long line up of superstar elite level players we need to spend on anytime soon or are you just trying to create cap space for the next Komi, Clarkson, overpaid ufa etc...
Cap space is only valuable when you are trying to retain your players...and we don't have much worth keeping. |
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gravyface
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Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown Joined: 02.19.2009
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Doesn't mean it justifies dealing out contracts because others have. We have enough crap. We need to shed $ not add.
Also in bjustad, whenever i see him play is very responsible positionally. Defensively aware. And hes a big boy. If kadri asks 4, ya sign him. But him getting 5.5 is Gross. He had 1 good year and regressed offensively (hes an offensive player at the end of the day). Bjustads #s are very similar to kadris last 2 years - clark_griswold
Kadri's been night and day taking care of things that a top 6 center should be able to take care of this year. He's also been playing with Santo and Winnik most of the season and in a shutdown-ish role too.
He won't get 5.5M but he'll be around 5M. |
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