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MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jan 27 @ 11:31 AM ET
David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod 8s8 seconds ago
Leafs in both sell & buy mode. Willing to sell off pieces, but don't want a rebuild. Told goal is to swap out some pieces to "clean up room"
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jan 27 @ 11:31 AM ET
Put the crayons down ...then try it again.

The Kings would have to pay a steep price to move Richards, correct. Look around the league at similar deals .. 2nd round picks or good young player/prospect to take a team's baggage. Richard's though is huge baggage in terms of contract.

And from Friedman

"Calgary and Toronto were reported to be the two teams most involved in a Richards trade. I do believe the Dion Phaneuf-Richards idea was seriously considered, although other pieces were going to be involved. I don’t know which team asked, or how the overall package was going to look, but word is the Kings ultimately said no to any deal because they were unwilling to include either Tanner Pearson or Tyler Toffoli."

Teams, like me, are viewing this the same way. Kings may not like it but they'll be lucky to get out from under this.

- The Law


Why would the Kings have to pay a 1st and a good prospect to get a worst contract than the Richards one?!?
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jan 27 @ 11:32 AM ET
if he was on the block i could see them even having him fake an injury so he doesnt get hurt and they work the phones hard to move him

not that i think this is going on, but nothing surprises me these days...nothing

- Lucas Neilson

He has a NTC ?
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hockeybuzz Fantasy @lucasneilson84 , ON
Joined: 10.04.2013

Jan 27 @ 11:32 AM ET
David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod 8s8 seconds ago
Leafs in both sell & buy mode. Willing to sell off pieces, but don't want a rebuild. Told goal is to swap out some pieces to "clean up room"

- MCharisma91


i wonder who the bad eggs are in the room
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hockeybuzz Fantasy @lucasneilson84 , ON
Joined: 10.04.2013

Jan 27 @ 11:33 AM ET
He has a NTC ?
- Iggysbff


i think so, i dont know all the details im just thinking with my fingers

id be interested in going from a bottom dweller to the Kings though...if it was me.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jan 27 @ 11:33 AM ET
David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod 8s8 seconds ago
Leafs in both sell & buy mode. Willing to sell off pieces, but don't want a rebuild. Told goal is to swap out some pieces to "clean up room"

- MCharisma91

They making a trade with the Flames for Mark " the janitor" Jankowski?
TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

Jan 27 @ 11:34 AM ET
i wonder who the bad eggs are in the room
- Lucas Neilson



The same guys there for 4 consecutive collapses. Phil, Bozie, Loops, Dion.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jan 27 @ 11:34 AM ET
i wonder who the bad eggs are in the room
- Lucas Neilson

You have to ask? What player had no teammates come to his aid in recent games.

There is your answer.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jan 27 @ 11:34 AM ET
I think that's what the Leafs were asking, not what LA was offering, and that's why they went with Gaborik instead.
- Feeling Glucky?


Friedman was speaking in the now ..i.e. that the Leafs and Kings were talking DP for MR now.

I have no idea what is "fair" b/c I don't know the market but it's completely realistic to believe that teams would demand good young assets back with Richards.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jan 27 @ 11:34 AM ET
i think so, i dont know all the details im just thinking with my fingers

id be interested in going from a bottom dweller to the Kings though...if it was me.

- Lucas Neilson

Not to mention I'm sure Elisha would love that.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jan 27 @ 11:35 AM ET
Why would the Kings have to pay a 1st and a good prospect to get a worst contract than the Richards one?!?
- fidopro


Oh there we go .....I forgot DP is a worse contract than MR. I'm no Dion fan but he has much much more value than Richards, IMHO. And the current events seem to be indicating that as well.
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jan 27 @ 11:37 AM ET
Oh there we go .....I forgot DP is a worse contract than MR. I'm no Dion fan but he has much much more value than Richards, IMHO. And the current events seem to be indicating that as well.
- The Law

dion =larry murphy 2.0
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 27 @ 11:38 AM ET
Why would the Kings have to pay a 1st and a good prospect to get a worst contract than the Richards one?!?
- fidopro

because 7M for a #1 dman isn't worse than 5.5M for a sub-par 4th liner?
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hockeybuzz Fantasy @lucasneilson84 , ON
Joined: 10.04.2013

Jan 27 @ 11:38 AM ET
You have to ask? What player had no teammates come to his aid in recent games.

There is your answer.

- LeafMan


you mean the leaf that was fighting and hitting and trying to show some emotion in this horrendous spiral? lol

we all know you hate phaneuf

but id say the players who did nothing are worse off than the guy standing his ground and actually giving a damn, my thoughts at least !
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 27 @ 11:38 AM ET
Friedman was speaking in the now ..i.e. that the Leafs and Kings were talking DP for MR now.

I have no idea what is "fair" b/c I don't know the market but it's completely realistic to believe that teams would demand good young assets back with Richards.

- The Law

I was talking about that Lupul tweet, shoulda bolded.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hockeybuzz Fantasy @lucasneilson84 , ON
Joined: 10.04.2013

Jan 27 @ 11:39 AM ET
Not to mention I'm sure Elisha would love that.
- Iggysbff

heh yeah good point
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jan 27 @ 11:39 AM ET
David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod · 46s 46 seconds ago
Whatever happens, sounds like multiple moves are coming down the pike for Toronto.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hockeybuzz Fantasy @lucasneilson84 , ON
Joined: 10.04.2013

Jan 27 @ 11:39 AM ET
because 7M for a #1 dman isn't worse than 5.5M for a sub-par 4th liner?
- Feeling Glucky?


like him or hate him

id rather dion than richards at this point
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 27 @ 11:39 AM ET
you mean the leaf that was fighting and hitting and trying to show some emotion in this horrendous spiral? lol

we all know you hate phaneuf

but id say the players who did nothing are worse off than the guy standing his ground and actually giving a damn, my thoughts at least !

- Lucas Neilson

fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jan 27 @ 11:40 AM ET
Oh there we go .....I forgot DP is a worse contract than MR. I'm no Dion fan but he has much much more value than Richards, IMHO. And the current events seem to be indicating that as well.
- The Law


Well, Kings management seems to think like me, otherwise the deal would have gone through.
Considering they've just won 2 cups, I'd bet they know what they're doing.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hockeybuzz Fantasy @lucasneilson84 , ON
Joined: 10.04.2013

Jan 27 @ 11:40 AM ET
David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod · 46s 46 seconds ago
Whatever happens, sounds like multiple moves are coming down the pike for Toronto.

- MCharisma91


nonuts nonis i dunno!!!
mcleafs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.01.2013

Jan 27 @ 11:40 AM ET
David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod · 46s 46 seconds ago
Whatever happens, sounds like multiple moves are coming down the pike for Toronto.

- MCharisma91

Toronto media squawk. I'll believe it when I see it.
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jan 27 @ 11:40 AM ET
Top 10 picks:

Kadri, Kessel, Phaneuf, Rielly, Lupul, JVR all top 10 picks

- twiztedmike

he also said first round
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 27 @ 11:41 AM ET
An interesting point from Friedman's 30 thoughts:

" 30 THOUGHTS

1. Calgary and Toronto were reported to be the two teams most involved in a Richards trade. I do believe the Dion Phaneuf-Richards idea was seriously considered, although other pieces were going to be involved. I don’t know which team asked, or how the overall package was going to look, but word is the Kings ultimately said no to any deal because they were unwilling to include either Tanner Pearson or Tyler Toffoli."


Glad to see that this is the type of thing that was asked for; kind of a "hey, we'll take your problem, but we're gonna need some sweetening of the pot to do so"
clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: JVR_42_PK81
Joined: 01.10.2013

Jan 27 @ 11:41 AM ET
like him or hate him

id rather dion than richards at this point

- Lucas Neilson


no question
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