haha no you wouldn't lol hes a top nhl talent not a cap dump go troll another post.
- jake24242

Not sure why he would even be discussed in trade, 5/30 goal season, 2/80 point seasons, (maybe one more of each during the lockout year).
How many guys with his talent become available?

Not sure why he would even be discussed in trade, 5/30 goal season, 2/80 point seasons, (maybe one more of each during the lockout year).
How many guys with his talent become available?
- puckhead17

Well we did trade to get kessel

Well we did trade to get kessel
- jake24242

But look at what he cost, (eventual cost), another top line player.
He's more established now, than when you acquired him, his value is higher now than before.

But look at what he cost, (eventual cost), another top line player.
He's more established now, than when you acquired him, his value is higher now than before.
- puckhead17

He is more proven thats for sure. Maybe the islanders need him

Not sure why he would even be discussed in trade, 5/30 goal season, 2/80 point seasons, (maybe one more of each during the lockout year).
How many guys with his talent become available?
- puckhead17

Not many, which is why the return would be so high.

Not many, which is why the return would be so high.
- The Shrike

It would be, & should be.

I don't think he gets moved.

But look at what he cost, (eventual cost), another top line player.
He's more established now, than when you acquired him, his value is higher now than before.
- puckhead17[/quote]

disagree. He was 21, with a 36 goal season. His high since coming is 37. He hasn't exactly blown his boston numbers away. Plus now he comes with (justifiable or not) a large cap hit. We paid dearly to get his best years. We will get a good return, but not as good as what we paid. And i don't even mean seguin/hamilton. Even if we get 2 1st and a 2nd, it will be from a higher seeded team. No team rebuilding is going to make the mistake again that burke made and bank on this guy.

[quote=puckhead17]But look at what he cost, (eventual cost), another top line player.
He's more established now, than when you acquired him, his value is higher now than before.
- clark_griswold[/quote]

disagree. He was 21, with a 36 goal season. His high since coming is 37. He hasn't exactly blown his boston numbers away. Plus now he comes with (justifiable or not) a large cap hit. We paid dearly to get his best years. We will get a good return, but not as good as what we paid. And i don't even mean seguin/hamilton. Even if we get 2 1st and a 2nd, it will be from a higher seeded team. No team rebuilding is going to make the mistake again that burke made and bank on this guy.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm, the lockout, inflation, the market went boom!
& a little thing called consistency caused this.

It would be, & should be.

I don't think he gets moved.
- puckhead17

I'd move Dion long before I moved Kessel, but I'm sure they're entertaining offers.

There's no rush when it comes to Kessel though, he's signed long term, and if they are seriously considering trading him the off season would bring more suitors into the bidding.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm, the lockout, inflation, the market went boom!
& a little thing called consistency caused this.
- puckhead17

nowhere did i say he didn't earn his salary.

point is we paid for his best years. That's reality.

I'd move Dion long before I moved Kessel, but I'm sure they're entertaining offers.

There's no rush when it comes to Kessel though, he's signed long term, and if they are seriously considering trading him the off season would bring more suitors into the bidding.
- The Shrike

If he's moved you have to wonder where his production would come from?
Unless its "knock it down", ugly, completely suck for 5 year rebuild".

If he's moved you have to wonder where his production would come from?
Unless its "knock it down", ugly, completely suck for 5 year rebuild".
- puckhead17

im for this exactly. not by choice, by necessity

im for this exactly. not by choice, by necessity
- clark_griswold

Thats what everyone in the Flyers boards want as well, man, thats a hard thing to take for that long!

Thats what everyone in the Flyers boards want as well, man, thats a hard thing to take for that long!
- puckhead17

im 34 years old. enough is enough. Have you seen this team the last 11 years? "That's a hard thig to take for that long!"

what am i clinging to?

If he's moved you have to wonder where his production would come from?
Unless its "knock it down", ugly, completely suck for 5 year rebuild".
- puckhead17

That seems to be the prevailing mood in LeafNation these days, or should I say #tanknation.

Of course, that's the fans, I'm sure the suits at Rogers and Bell will be a very difficult sell on that idea.

im 34 years old. enough is enough. Have you seen this team the last 11 years? "That's a hard thig to take for that long!"

what am i clinging to?
- clark_griswold

I'm much older, I remember the Sittler, McDonald, Salming, era like yesterday.
Those were actually fun to follow.

That seems to be the prevailing mood in LeafNation these days, or should I say #tanknation.

Of course, that's the fans, I'm sure the suits at Rogers and Bell will be a very difficult sell on that idea.
- The Shrike

and i believe that's why Lieweke (or however you spell it) left.

I'm actually hopeful this time. I think they can sense enough is enough. they are driven by playoff profit as well. They will have to realize the retooling on the fly isn't working at some point.

Tear it down and build the right way. 5 more years is nothing IMO. I can't watch this garbage anymore.

That seems to be the prevailing mood in LeafNation these days, or should I say #tanknation.

Of course, that's the fans, I'm sure the suits at Rogers and Bell will be a very difficult sell on that idea.
- The Shrike

if thats the case i quit

I'm much older, I remember the Sittler, McDonald, Salming, era like yesterday.
Those were actually fun to follow.
- puckhead17

i saw a few good runs. But ya you at least saw some flyers success/cups too then. I hope to see one before i die.

That seems to be the prevailing mood in LeafNation these days, or should I say #tanknation.

Of course, that's the fans, I'm sure the suits at Rogers and Bell will be a very difficult sell on that idea.
- The Shrike

honestly, it should be, teams that tank, usually do it for financial reasons.

The Leafs, & Flyers have too much money, fan base, & pride to just suck on purpose.
People do forget how long, & grueling a rebuild takes, thats 4-5 years off your life.
And look at the Oilers, sometimes it backfires

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm, the lockout, inflation, the market went boom!
& a little thing called consistency caused this.
- puckhead17

Consistently missing the playoffs too, I love the guy but I don't think anybody realized how soft he is and easy to play against in his own end. You get the good with the bad with Kessel IMO.

If we can get Franson traded before the next game, we have a chance to prolong the losing streak. Losing your 1 and 2 defenseman will make every other player behind, move up in minutes. We'll have 2 Marlies playing on the bottom pairing. It' imperative that we lose the next game and let Jersey get past us in the standings. We can't gain another 2 on them, or they may never catch us. Too bad that they weren't in the market to move their first rounder for Gardiner, and or a little more. They are lacking young talent, so maybe they take a nibble on Gardiner.

if thats the case i quit
- Lee Denault

Naw, your too old to quit, (like me), to take up something else.

and i believe that's why Lieweke (or however you spell it) left.

I'm actually hopeful this time. I think they can sense enough is enough. they are driven by playoff profit as well. They will have to realize the retooling on the fly isn't working at some point.

Tear it down and build the right way. 5 more years is nothing IMO. I can't watch this garbage anymore.
- clark_griswold

you think rogers and bell care about playoff money. im sure they want to win obviously. but rogers and bell piss that money away daily.

Naw, your too old to quit, (like me), to take up something else.
- puckhead17

i will die with this team...but how could you be some incompetent for so long.

I do have faith in shanny though, he is a winner.