no one will take him, they all know he'll be bought out in the summer and then some team can get him for 2 or 3 years at 2 or 3 million
- the_eye

Oooh, if he gets bought out is there a cap recapture? And if so is Philly penalized?

That would be awesome.

Wonder if L.A. waived Richards to see if they can get rid of his contract entirely, but they will retain salary if he clears. Something like M. Richards (1/2 salary retained) for a low pick.
- BetterCallSaul

"Teams may retain part of a traded player's salary to ease the cap burden on the acquiring team. Provisions on such retention are as follows:

The acquiring team must assume at least 50 percent of the remaining salary and cap charge of the SPC.
Such a contract can only be traded twice using provision 1 during the lifetime of the SPC.
Retained salary by the trading team cannot be more than 15 percent of the upper salary cap limit.
A maximum of 3 such contracts with salary retained in a trade can on a team's books at any one time. "

- Mungo (Canucks thread)

Or that But what was the point of sending him on waivers though then? Would you not rather have Mike Richards in the lineup than out Guess it was to test the market to see if someone would bite
- DougGilmour_93

900 thousand cap relief? off chance someone does take him?

"Teams may retain part of a traded player's salary to ease the cap burden on the acquiring team. Provisions on such retention are as follows:

The acquiring team must assume at least 50 percent of the remaining salary and cap charge of the SPC.
Such a contract can only be traded twice using provision 1 during the lifetime of the SPC.
Retained salary by the trading team cannot be more than 15 percent of the upper salary cap limit.
A maximum of 3 such contracts with salary retained in a trade can on a team's books at any one time. "

- Mungo (Canucks thread)
- Beatle_john

thats a traded player, not one taken on waivers.
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Oooh, if he gets bought out is there a cap recapture? And if so is Philly penalized?

That would be awesome.
- BetterCallSaul

I believe they would.

Do you want to be the Edmonton oilers? Sure as hell I dont. This is my mindset currently. Obtain significant assets in Phaneuf, Lupul, Bozak, Reimer, Franson, Gardiner, Robidas, Santorelli, Winnik, Booth. Obtain Mike Richards for his leadership and defensive skillset. Pair him with kessel he solves the issue and will bail kessel out. Will become at least a 50 pt guy again which is fine. Our team this year will still tank and be poop, thus deeming us a top 1-10 pick, which i hope falls around the 5th choice mark. Trade those guys for younger players or picks or prospects and make this team get significantly younger but still effective. We eliminate alot of the big contracts but got VALUE for them. In past years we have drafted Nylander, Rielly which is a good start. Add this years we have three top 10 picks in the first round. Could get more in the future but its just for now phase
- DougGilmour_93

and there it is..what's the difference between and us and edmonton last 4 years? we finish about 5-6 spots higher, have a max payroll with unmoveable contracts and draft in worse positions. I don't know about you, but i can't imagine finishing 30th overall. thank god we finish 24th overall

PS. why would you want to trade these guys? because they are crap. The other gms know exactly what we do. Significant returns for these guys? i strongly disagree.

Oooh, if he gets bought out is there a cap recapture? And if so is Philly penalized?

That would be awesome.
- BetterCallSaul

Richards didn't play under this contract in Philly. Penalty would all go to LA.

I got news for you....you guys are worse than the oilers...
- Iggysbff

i agree. seriously.

900 thousand cap relief? off chance someone does take him?
- the_eye

peanuts and yeah basically just the chance of someone taking him. Will get called back up if he clears but then you just kinda pissed him off. So he will either kill someone or actually play good

thats a traded player, not one taken on waivers.
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- the_eye

I think you should re-read my original post. I said if he clears waivers perhaps L.A. would retain salary to move him.

thats a traded player, not one taken on waivers.
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- the_eye

But you need to go back and re-read it.

and there it is..what's the difference between and us and edmonton last 4 years? we finish about 5-6 spots higher, have a max payroll with unmoveable contracts and draft in worse positions. I don't know about, but i can't imagine finishing 30th overall. thank god we finish 24th overall

PS. why would you want to trade these guys? because they are crap. The other gms know exactly what we do. Significant returns for these guys? i strongly disagree.
- clark_griswold

Take picks for as much as possible, or young players, but with Kessel and JVR might be able to squeeze a couple first out of 'em...

I think you should re-read my original post. I said if he clears waivers perhaps L.A. would retain salary to move him.
- BetterCallSaul

Well said.

Take picks for as much as possible, or young players, but with Kessel and JVR might be able to squeeze a couple first out of 'em...
- aminnes

agreed. point is ppl don't want to trade kessel and phaneuf. which is beyond me

Take picks for as much as possible, or young players, but with Kessel and JVR might be able to squeeze a couple first out of 'em...
- aminnes

agreed. point is ppl don't want to trade kessel and phaneuf. which is beyond me

I think you should re-read my original post. I said if he clears waivers perhaps L.A. would retain salary to move him.
- BetterCallSaul

Wonder if L.A. waived Richards to see if they can get rid of his contract entirely, but they will retain salary if he clears. Something like M. Richards (1/2 salary retained) for a low pick.
- BetterCallSaul

and there it is..what's the difference between and us and edmonton last 4 years? we finish about 5-6 spots higher, have a max payroll with unmoveable contracts and draft in worse positions. I don't know about, but i can't imagine finishing 30th overall. thank god we finish 24th overall

PS. why would you want to trade these guys? because they are crap. The other gms know exactly what we do. Significant returns for these guys? i strongly disagree.
- clark_griswold

Well what do you want? Am i the GM? Am i the dumbass who doesnt manage his assets when they are at peak value or at a high value within the season or past seasons? ASSET MANAGEMENT. Leafs management should really get a clue about that. We already knew this season was going to be a bust as the acquisitions in the summer simply were not good enough. So now that they are doing poop, everyone has low value

agreed. point is ppl don't want to trade kessel and phaneuf. which is beyond me
- clark_griswold

I would wait on Kessel for a bit... Phaneuf.. i just think the whole defense squad needs to go basically except rielly

ok who has a worse contract/cap situation. leafs or oilers
- wingz4life

leafs no doubt. And the oil stink, but we stink a little less. Their young guys are about 4 years younger minimum than kessel. They have cap space. They have better young players but a horrible surrounding cast. After this year's draft it won't be close.

But on here, there's a false sense of 'we aren't that bad'...we are so much closer to 30th overall than playoffs it's stupid.

Well said.
- Beatle_john

he said if he clears, but i was responding to you not him

ergo making fun of you not him

Richards didn't play under this contract in Philly. Penalty would all go to LA.
- Iggysbff

See, it's hard to think of you as a knowledgeable troll when you make statements like this.

Well what do you want? Am i the GM? Am i the dumbass who doesnt manage his assets when they are at peak value or at a high value within the season or past seasons? ASSET MANAGEMENT. Leafs management should really get a clue about that. We already knew this season was going to be a bust as the acquisitions in the summer simply were not good enough. So now that they are doing poop, everyone has low value
- DougGilmour_93

it's also the contracts that hurt their value. Point is this team is deader than dead. the longer we drag on the funeral, the worse it will be.

I get there are youngish assets but the kessels and jvrs need to be moved to get us a good return. And they won't be of help in 5 years when they are 30+ if they can't do it now in their primes.

Wonder if L.A. waived Richards to see if they can get rid of his contract entirely, but they will retain salary if he clears. Something like M. Richards (1/2 salary retained) for a low pick.
- BetterCallSaul
- the_eye

Yep, I did not word it properly.

My bad for confusing you./ not being able to convey my point properly.

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- Beatle_john

do you post this every time you do one?


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I would wait on Kessel for a bit... Phaneuf.. i just think the whole defense squad needs to go basically except rielly
- DougGilmour_93

i agree you don't rush guys just to dump them..but they need dumping.