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Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jan 26 @ 7:19 PM ET
typical oilers fan who thinks he's playing nhl 15 on ps4.


have you heard of this thing called the salary cap? richards contract ends in like 5 years, so at one point they will end up having close to 25M of their cap spent on C alone. richards will be their 4th line C by the time draisatl is good enough to be the 3rd line C, and then they will be in the same position LA is now.

- sensnucksnocups

did you read the post???

holy (frank)......

I knew you were clueless, we all do. but youre unable to read as well?

I wont say youre "typical anything", cause that wouldn't be fair to the rest of the leafs fans.

"hes not a top center at present. and hasn't been for 2 years. maybe more.
theres lots of conjecture and innuendo from those who see more of him as to why, but that's doesn't really matter. what matters is that hes playing 4th line minutes and just got waived cause theyd like to rid himself of the salary for what he brings.
these are the facts bro".


"as far as center depth, roy can probably be resigned at half Richards dollars at less half the term commitment.
or someone else that can be relative to what Richards is doing now at half the price.

as I said, Richards could help. but unless u can figure out a way to dump nikitins salary on someone, I just don't see it as a smart move"

EdEagle
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.27.2013

Jan 26 @ 7:22 PM ET
I'm
did you read the post???

holy fuk......

I knew you were clueless, but youre unable to read as well?

I wont say youre "typical anything", cause that wouldn't be fair to the rest of the leafs fans

- Ihateallofu


Don't waste "justice points" on being fair to leaves fans bro.
Run them down, they don't deserve to even breathe.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jan 26 @ 7:22 PM ET
typical oilers fan who thinks he's playing nhl 15 on ps4.


have you heard of this thing called the salary cap? richards contract ends in like 5 years, so at one point they will end up having close to 25M of their cap spent on C alone. richards will be their 4th line C by the time draisatl is good enough to be the 3rd line C, and then they will be in the same position LA is now.

- sensnucksnocups

You can't read can you...
sensnucksnocups
Location: ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Jan 26 @ 7:24 PM ET
did you read the post???

holy fuk......

I knew you were clueless, we all do. but youre unable to read as well?

I wont say youre "typical anything", cause that wouldn't be fair to the rest of the leafs fans.

"hes not a top center at present. and hasn't been for 2 years. maybe more.
theres lots of conjecture and innuendo from those who see more of him as to why, but that's doesn't really matter. what matters is that hes playing 4th line minutes and just got waived cause theyd like to rid himself of the salary for what he brings.
these are the facts bro".

- Ihateallofu



did you read his post?

as I said, Richards could help. but unless u can figure out a way to dump nikitins salary on someone, I just don't see it as a smart move


so somehow dumping nikitin makes it worthwhile to take richards? how is that even relevant?


i knew you were clueless as well as soon as i noticed your an oilers fan.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 26 @ 7:26 PM ET
did you read his post?

as I said, Richards could help. but unless u can figure out a way to dump nikitins salary on someone, I just don't see it as a smart move


so somehow dumping nikitin makes it worthwhile to take richards? how is that even relevant?


i knew you were clueless as well as soon as i noticed your an oilers fan.

- sensnucksnocups

Yay
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jan 26 @ 7:26 PM ET
This is why I love the cap recapture penalty, 8 year cap on contracts and ban on burying guys in the minors. Something that actually makes GMs and owners accountable for these unbelievably awful deals.
- S Kaspar Rollins


Recapture for the Kings won't be that bad if Richards retires before his contract ends. The way recapture works is essentially summing up the amount of total "cap benefit" the Kings received due to the front-loaded contract (actual salary minus cap hit), then dividing that amount over the remaining years of the contract.

The Kings only have to account for the seasons since they acquired Richards. Richards' cap hit is $5.75M per season, his salary for each of the years (and cap benefit) since 2011-12 are as follows:

Year: Salary - Cap Hit = Cap Benefit
2011-12: $6.6M - $5.75M = $850k
2012-13: $8.4M - $5.75M = $2.65M
2013-14: $7.6M - $5.75M = $1.85M
2014-15: $7M - $5.75M = $1.25M
2015-16: $6M - $5.75M = $250k
2016-17: $5.5M - $5.75M = -$250k
2017-18: $4.5M - $5.75M = -$1.25M
2018-19: $3M - $5.75M = -$2.75M
2019-20: $3M - $5.75M = -$2.75M

So if you take the cumulative cap benefit and divide it by the years remaining on Richards contract, that is the amount that the Kings would get hit with every season until 2020 if Richards decides to retire early. The year applies if he retires before or during the season listed.

Contract Year:
2014-15: $850k + $2.65M + $1.85M = $5.35M / 6 years remaining = $891,667
2015-16: $5.35M + $1.25M = $6.6M / 5 years reamaining = $1.32M
2016-17: $6.6M + $250k = $6.85M / 4 years remaining = $1.713M
2017-18: $6.85M - $250k = $6.6M / 3 years remaining = $2.2M
2018-19: $6.6M - $1.25M = $5.35M / 2 years remaining = $2.675M
2019-20: $5.35M - $2.75M = $2.6M / 1 year remeaining = $2.6M

Now compare that with the $1.47M cap hit the Kings would get hit with until 2025 if Richards is bought out this offseason (2/3 of $22M divided over twice the remaining term). I would almost prefer he retire early than get bought out.

*Edit* - Correction to the buyout amounts. In the new CBA, the cap hit for bought out players varies based on the amount of "cap savings" the team gets for the player going off the contract. Here are Mike Richards' AAVs by season if he gets bought out this offseason.

Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jan 26 @ 7:26 PM ET
You can't read can you...
- Iggysbff


wow.
EdEagle
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.27.2013

Jan 26 @ 7:29 PM ET
[quote=sensnucksnocups]did you read his post?

as I said, Richards could help. but unless u can figure out a way to dump nikitins salary on someone, I just don't see it as a smart move


so somehow dumping nikitin makes it worthwhile to take richards? how is that even relevant?


i knew you were clueless as well as soon as i noticed your an oilers

we all have very bad days. I'm sure you are not as stupid as you sound, maybe just young or misguided.
Now apologize and leave, I'm sure you have homework to do or something.
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jan 26 @ 7:30 PM ET
did you read his post?

as I said, Richards could help. but unless u can figure out a way to dump nikitins salary on someone, I just don't see it as a smart move


so somehow dumping nikitin makes it worthwhile to take richards? how is that even relevant?


i knew you were clueless as well as soon as i noticed your an oilers fan.

- sensnucksnocups



ummmmmm


the stupidity levels keep reaching new lows with you.

its called an undetermined future. while using solid reasonable logic in the present, as to why one might choose to do something or not.

just shush, youre embarrassing yourself
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jan 26 @ 7:34 PM ET
Yay
- Cptmjl

hes one of my favs
Champ
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 26 @ 7:37 PM ET
lol yeah teams like the Leafs are "held hostage" when they somehow sign Clarkson to a deal specifically designed to be buyout-proof

or any number of other deals on July 1 that look like awful garbage to any rational observer literally the instant they're signed.

As this Richards thing shows, the possibility is still there for them to play in the AHL if it comes to that, the rule is there to somewhat protect idiot GMs from themselves a little.

- S Kaspar Rollins


Their are still many GMs out there that continue to sign players to stupid deals. A lot of GMs are not going to be around past 5 years so they don't care what happens later.

The Habs were held hostage by Subban and his camp. The Habs had no choice but to agree to the deal. If they signed him to a 1 year deal, he would of been UFA at the end of the year and he would of walked.
EdEagle
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.27.2013

Jan 26 @ 7:37 PM ET
In more important things Genie Bouchard is playing Maria Sharapova tonight.... Wow. Hope you guys don't mind that I go and pay attention to THAT
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jan 26 @ 7:38 PM ET
In more important things Genie Bouchard is playing Maria Sharapova tonight.... Wow. Hope you guys don't mind that I go and pay attention to THAT

- EdEagle

fuk yeah

tennis fan. and those two are smokeshows.

go genie!!
EdEagle
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.27.2013

Jan 26 @ 7:39 PM ET
fuk yeah

tennis fan. and those two are smokeshows.

- Ihateallofu

I'm having trouble picking who to cheer for, I just hope it goes to 3 sets....
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 26 @ 7:40 PM ET
hes one of my favs
- Ihateallofu

Agreed. Ive been been anxiously awaiting his arrival.
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jan 26 @ 7:40 PM ET
I'm having trouble picking who to cheer for, I just hope it goes to 3 sets....
- EdEagle

marias likeable. and hot as eff.

but gotta go with the canadian
EdEagle
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.27.2013

Jan 26 @ 7:42 PM ET
marias likeable. and hot as eff.

but gotta go with the canadian

- Ihateallofu

Agreed. And genie seems more dtf. Lol
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jan 26 @ 7:42 PM ET
Agreed. Ive been been anxiously awaiting his arrival.
- Cptmjl

he rarely disappoints with the quality of posts
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 26 @ 7:44 PM ET
he rarely disappoints with the quality of posts
- Ihateallofu

Hes consistent. That's important.
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Jan 26 @ 7:44 PM ET
Hes consistent. That's important.
- Cptmjl



it is.
just ask any coach
S Kaspar Rollins
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.22.2007

Jan 26 @ 7:51 PM ET
Their are still many GMs out there that continue to sign players to stupid deals. A lot of GMs are not going to be around past 5 years so they don't care what happens later.

The Habs were held hostage by Subban and his camp. The Habs had no choice but to agree to the deal. If they signed him to a 1 year deal, he would of been UFA at the end of the year and he would of walked.

- Champ


never mind that it was the Habs who screwed up initially by being cheap and signing him to a bridge deal, i fail to see what you're getting at here

Most bad contracts i would guess are either horrid UFA deals or old 10+ year ones that went bad. I think teams have gotten a lot smarter knowing which RFAs to lock up, which is why the UFA market seems to get worse every year
jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.25.2010

Jan 26 @ 7:54 PM ET
I kinda want richards
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jan 26 @ 7:58 PM ET
I kinda want richards
- jake24242

We know...
S Kaspar Rollins
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.22.2007

Jan 26 @ 8:00 PM ET
Recapture for the Kings won't be that bad if Richards retires before his contract ends. The way recapture works is essentially summing up the amount of total "cap benefit" the Kings received due to the front-loaded contract (actual salary minus cap hit), then dividing that amount over the remaining years of the contract.

The Kings only have to account for the seasons since they acquired Richards. Richards' cap hit is $5.75M per season, his salary for each of the years (and cap benefit) since 2011-12 are as follows:

Year: Salary - Cap Hit = Cap Benefit
2011-12: $6.6M - $5.75M = $850k
2012-13: $8.4M - $5.75M = $2.65M
2013-14: $7.6M - $5.75M = $1.85M
2014-15: $7M - $5.75M = $1.25M
2015-16: $6M - $5.75M = $250k
2016-17: $5.5M - $5.75M = -$250k
2017-18: $4.5M - $5.75M = -$1.25M
2018-19: $3M - $5.75M = -$2.75M
2019-20: $3M - $5.75M = -$2.75M

So if you take the cumulative cap benefit and divide it by the years remaining on Richards contract, that is the amount that the Kings would get hit with every season until 2020 if Richards decides to retire early. The year applies if he retires before or during the season listed.

Contract Year:
2014-15: $850k + $2.65M + $1.85M = $5.35M / 6 years remaining = $891,667
2015-16: $5.35M + $1.25M = $6.6M / 5 years reamaining = $1.32M
2016-17: $6.6M + $250k = $6.85M / 4 years remaining = $1.713M
2017-18: $6.85M - $250k = $6.6M / 3 years remaining = $2.2M
2018-19: $6.6M - $1.25M = $5.35M / 2 years remaining = $2.675M
2019-20: $5.35M - $2.75M = $2.6M / 1 year remeaining = $2.6M

Now compare that with the $1.47M cap hit the Kings would get hit with until 2025 if Richards is bought out this offseason (2/3 of $22M divided over twice the remaining term). I would almost prefer he retire early than get bought out.

- tkecanuck341


I wasn't referring specifically to Richards there, just in general.
Champ
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 26 @ 8:00 PM ET
never mind that it was the Habs who screwed up initially by being cheap and signing him to a bridge deal, i fail to see what you're getting at here

Most bad contracts i would guess are either horrid UFA deals or old 10+ year ones that went bad. I think teams have gotten a lot smarter knowing which RFAs to lock up, which is why the UFA market seems to get worse every year

- S Kaspar Rollins


I think a lot of the GMs are suckers and I think the players are extremely greedy. I do not like guaranteed contracts, I prefer the way the NFL has it. We have what we have and we have to live with it.

Bergevin has done a decent job of managing his cap.
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