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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 26 @ 11:51 PM ET
i do follow the logic there. but he wouldnt really get much time on the pens in that role anyway, for better or worse.

what i would need is the ability to cycle down low and chew up possession time when crosby and malkin arent on the ice. go out there and be able to kill a big penalty in the third.

and im not 100 percent sure he can/cant do those things anymore.

- stayinthefnnet


I don't see a team willing to take that chance, unless the Kings eat a considerable amount of salary. I think you can count on Mike Richards once the playoff start.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 26 @ 11:53 PM ET
Mike Richards is 29, Briere is 37. Brad Richards is still a capable player. Umberger had some injuries last season, and went to a new team. Many factors go into it, and it's different for every player.
- MJL


It's not different when the baseline is skating. All of those guys have lost a step, and it shows.

Doesn't matter when you lose it. When it is gone, it's gone, and their games, as well as every other player who loses a step, all suffer

Look at Matt Read. Because he better have had a leg injury, otherwise his skating is nowhere near good enough for the role which he is being paid to play

Poor Skating can make guys look disinterested
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 26 @ 11:55 PM ET
I don't see a team willing to take that chance, unless the Kings eat a considerable amount of salary. I think you can count on Mike Richards once the playoff start.
- MJL


for his salary, id rather just take a stab at Ryan Oreilly when he hits FA. or Kesler.
flyer186
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: niagara falls, ON
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jan 26 @ 11:56 PM ET
in the new contract do the teams still retain a portion of the salary cap hit for wavered players
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 26 @ 11:56 PM ET
It's not different when the baseline is skating. All of those guys have lost a step, and it shows.

Doesn't matter when you lose it. When it is gone, it's gone, and their games, as well as every other player who loses a step, all suffer

Look at Matt Read. Because he better have had a leg injury, otherwise his skating is nowhere near good enough for the role which he is being paid to play

Poor Skating can make guys look disinterested

- AllInForFlyers



The baseline isn't skating with Richards, and his skating isn't gone. Richards struggling doesn't have anything to do with his skating in my opinion. When Briere was 29, Richards age, he was putting up big seasons. Big difference between 29 and 35-37. Even Lombardi thinks Richards still has the ability.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 26 @ 11:57 PM ET
for his salary, id rather just take a stab at Ryan Oreilly when he hits FA. or Kesler.
- stayinthefnnet


Pens will add somebody at the deadline. They shouldn't be risking taking on that contract.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 27 @ 12:00 AM ET
The baseline isn't skating with Richards, and his skating isn't gone. Richards struggling doesn't have anything to do with his skating in my opinion. When Briere was 29, Richards age, he was putting up big seasons. Big difference between 29 and 35-37. Even Lombardi thinks Richards still has the ability.
- MJL


We will continue to disagree until he goes somewhere else

But if Lombardi truly thought Richards could play, he wouldn't be eating that cap hit and trying to move him

What they say is far less important than what they do
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 27 @ 12:01 AM ET
Pens will add somebody at the deadline. They shouldn't be risking taking on that contract.
- MJL

with the way the pens are currently constructed, no way in hell i would.

i do think the pens will be fairly limited in what they can do. they really dont have many picks yet.

the maatta/dupuis injuries really tied their hands.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 27 @ 12:07 AM ET
We will continue to disagree until he goes somewhere else

But if Lombardi truly thought Richards could play, he wouldn't be eating that cap hit and trying to move him

What they say is far less important than what they do

- AllInForFlyers


There's a difference between thinking he can still play, and having the player actually do it. Lombardi made a reference using baseball batting averages, that points out that he thinks Richards still has the ability to be a good player. The Kings want to do some things, and need to have some flexibility. Richards isn't playing up to the level of his cap hit, which is why they've done what they've done. They aren't eating any salary unless they send him to the AHL. If he clears waivers, they have 30 days to do that.
flyer186
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: niagara falls, ON
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jan 27 @ 12:18 AM ET
it seems to me that the flyers have a terrible PK right now Richards is a force on the PK always has been...i don't think he is washed up or lost a step i think he is just not happy on the 3rd line....Richards would free up the ability to trade a center ( cause we have way to many right now) even if it just for a draft pick he would also help out the PK ... but the big question is can the flyers get him re-interested in the game...he never wanted to leave Philly maybe bringing him back might re-fire that spark in him...either way it would be nothing more than a gamble
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jan 27 @ 12:34 AM ET
it seems to me that the flyers have a terrible PK right now Richards is a force on the PK always has been...i don't think he is washed up or lost a step i think he is just not happy on the 3rd line....Richards would free up the ability to trade a center ( cause we have way to many right now) even if it just for a draft pick he would also help out the PK ... but the big question is can the flyers get him re-interested in the game...he never wanted to leave Philly maybe bringing him back might re-fire that spark in him...either way it would be nothing more than a gamble
- flyer186

He has been on the 4th line for ages. He's not coming back nor should he
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 27 @ 12:39 AM ET
sorry sir.
- stayinthefnnet


that's better.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 27 @ 12:42 AM ET
He has been on the 4th line for ages. He's not coming back nor should he
- wilsonecho91


agreed. enjoyed him while he was here, scored some big goals and made big plays. it's over, done. even if the flyers had the room, i don't think he'd want to come here. and i have zero interest in the media bs poop storm that would ensue either.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 27 @ 12:49 AM ET
that's better.
- hammarby31


dont you be telling me whats better!
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 27 @ 12:57 AM ET
dont you be telling me whats better!
- stayinthefnnet


i just did.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 27 @ 12:59 AM ET
i just did.
- hammarby31


fine! im gonna go harrumph off to bed and get ready for all this snow we arent having.

night all.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 27 @ 12:59 AM ET
i just did.
- hammarby31


flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 27 @ 1:02 AM ET
Wedding band is on wrong finger...
- Jsaquella


That is an old photo from her facebook. Did not have wedding pictures up yet.

Creepin skills coming in handy.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 27 @ 1:06 AM ET
fine! im gonna go harrumph off to bed and get ready for all this snow we arent having.

night all.

- stayinthefnnet


harrumph away.

i don't listen to the weather reports because they're wrong about storms a lot of the time. just look out the (frank)ing window and worry about it then.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jan 27 @ 1:17 AM ET
harrumph away.

i don't listen to the weather reports because they're wrong about storms a lot of the time. just look out the (frank)ing window and worry about it then.

- hammarby31



Portland all the way up to Seeeeatttle
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 27 @ 1:56 AM ET
Portland all the way up toooooooo Seeeeatttle
- wilsonecho91


ftfy.

man, i wish i could remember that (frank)ing guy's name. wonder where his now. probably in tallahassee covering his favorite junior c hockey team.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jan 27 @ 1:57 AM ET
I would wanna be a fly on the wall of Hextall , Snider, and Homer deciding about Richards and laughing.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 27 @ 2:18 AM ET
Portland all the way up to Seeeeatttle
- wilsonecho91

That traffic can be a a bear
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jan 27 @ 2:18 AM ET
I can't wait to see what trades hexy makes at the deadline, hope we get some first rounders
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 27 @ 6:30 AM ET
I would wanna be a fly on the wall of Hextall , Snider, and Homer deciding about Richards and laughing.
- Winning


In related news, if Richards is in the AHL next season, he may get to stay in California after all if he's in the Kings' system:

http://www.unionleader.co...0127/SPORTS0702/150129175
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