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The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Jan 25 @ 6:10 PM ET
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- cdjaakkola


Well, it's all dots, and no dashes, so it can't be Morse Code....hmmm.
Lee Denault
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Time to get Schwifty
Joined: 11.16.2007

Jan 25 @ 6:18 PM ET
If it was all season, it would get a top pick. This is worse
- Canada Cup

yet you want to keep kessel
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Jan 25 @ 6:21 PM ET
Trading Kessel will do nothing short term for this team unless you guys somehow get so bad you get Mcdavid. If that doesnt happen I wouldnt even consider it.

Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 25 @ 6:27 PM ET
yet you want to keep kessel
- Lee Denault



We just have different views on how the rebuild will play out. I think you're saying six or seven years by which time Phil is not a top end guy. I just don't know how the rebuild goes and I want to hold onto the one elite piece we have.

Plus, he makes me laugh
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jan 25 @ 6:27 PM ET

Lou is a beauty.

Wish the Leafs had just made the Lulongo trade.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 25 @ 6:28 PM ET
How dare you compare this garbage to baseball. Blue Jays are going to the playoffs this year.

not like you care

Go watch Cricket.

- vancity787

lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 25 @ 6:30 PM ET
Lou is a beauty.

Wish the Leafs had just made the Lulongo trade.

- Byfuglien Ate Me




EDIT: I love Lou the person. But his contract sucks.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jan 25 @ 6:31 PM ET

- lumlums


Why? He is a legit starter.

He's a (frank)ing All Star.

I don't get why not Lums??
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jan 25 @ 6:35 PM ET


Elias


Gomez belongs at that game instead.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jan 25 @ 6:35 PM ET
Dion to LA for Richards - it's just reality, not getting anyone else..
Kessel and TO's 2nd to Nashville for Jones, Bartley and Nashvilles 1st...
Lupul to the Ducks for Stoner and a 3rd...
Bozak to LA for Regier and a 2nd...
JVR to NYI for Homenic and 2nd...
Franson to NYI for 2016 2nd and Loic Leduc...
Bernier to Edmonton for a 2016 1st...
Gardiner and a 2nd to Det for Sheahan...
3rd to St.Louis for Brodeur...
Winnick for a 2nd...
Booth for a 27th rounder...

IN:

Sheahan Richards

Jones Barkley
Stoner Homenic

Leduc - not NHL ready
Regier - UFA salary gone year end.

Brodeur

Nsh 1st 2015
Edm 1st 2016
Ana 3rd 2015
LA 2nd 2015
Nyi 2nd 2015
Nyi 2nd 2016

27.5 Million in space headed into the draft.
Enter with 2 1st rounders, 2 second rounders
Enter 2016 draft with 2 1sts and 2 seconds...

Play the rest of the year with an AHL squad and get top 5 pick, Obviously Brodeur probably would come to this, but find another backup/ 3rd stringer to ride pine while Reimer gets peppered...

OUT:

Kessel Bozak JVR
Lupul Winnick Booth

Dion Franson Gardner

Bernier

TO 2nd and 3rd in 2015
2015 2nd Winnick - gone in Sheahan deal.

Enter 2015-16 with Kadri, Shaehan, Richards and Holland at centre, a very young d corps with Polak and Robidas being the elder guys. Gonna suck in 15-16 but will get another quality pick out of it. By 2018 they would have a good young team that grew up together... Plus this isn't even factoring in the massive cap space to retool with any sensible UFA that might become available, or perhaps a solid goalie under contract if Reims doesn't perform...


lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 25 @ 6:35 PM ET
Why? He is a legit starter.

He's a (frank)ing All Star.

I don't get why not Lums??

- Byfuglien Ate Me


Dat contract
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jan 25 @ 6:36 PM ET
Dion to LA for Richards - it's just reality, not getting anyone else..
Kessel and TO's 2nd to Nashville for Jones, Bartley and Nashvilles 1st...
Lupul to the Ducks for Stoner and a 3rd...
Bozak to LA for Regier and a 2nd...
JVR to NYI for Homenic and 2nd...
Franson to NYI for 2016 2nd and Loic Leduc...
Bernier to Edmonton for a 2016 1st...
Gardiner and a 2nd to Det for Sheahan...
3rd to St.Louis for Brodeur...
Winnick for a 2nd...
Booth for a 27th rounder...

IN:

Sheahan Richards

Jones Barkley
Stoner Homenic

Leduc - not NHL ready
Regier - UFA salary gone year end.

Brodeur

Nsh 1st 2015
Edm 1st 2016
Ana 3rd 2015
LA 2nd 2015
Nyi 2nd 2015
Nyi 2nd 2016

27.5 Million in space headed into the draft.
Enter with 2 1st rounders, 2 second rounders
Enter 2016 draft with 2 1sts and 2 seconds...

Play the rest of the year with an AHL squad and get top 5 pick, Obviously Brodeur probably would come to this, but find another backup/ 3rd stringer to ride pine while Reimer gets peppered...

OUT:

Kessel Bozak JVR
Lupul Winnick Booth

Dion Franson Gardner

Bernier

TO 2nd and 3rd in 2015
2015 2nd Winnick - gone in Sheahan deal.

Enter 2015-16 with Kadri, Shaehan, Richards and Holland at centre, a very young d corps with Polak and Robidas being the elder guys. Gonna suck in 15-16 but will get another quality pick out of it. By 2018 they would have a good young team that grew up together... Plus this isn't even factoring in the massive cap space to retool with any sensible UFA that might become available, or perhaps a solid goalie under contract if Reims doesn't perform...

- aminnes


Dion is simply worth more than Mike Richards. Yes, we can do better.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jan 25 @ 6:39 PM ET
Dat contract
- lumlums


I see what you are saying.


But I have an awful feeling that Nonis is going to give Berningpain a bloated deal and the leafs will be stuck with a "just ok" goaltender.

At least Lou is a Legit #1.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 25 @ 6:40 PM ET
Dion to LA for Richards - it's just reality, not getting anyone else..
Kessel and TO's 2nd to Nashville for Jones, Bartley and Nashvilles 1st...
Lupul to the Ducks for Stoner and a 3rd...
Bozak to LA for Regier and a 2nd...
JVR to NYI for Homenic and 2nd...
Franson to NYI for 2016 2nd and Loic Leduc...
Bernier to Edmonton for a 2016 1st...
Gardiner and a 2nd to Det for Sheahan...
3rd to St.Louis for Brodeur...
Winnick for a 2nd...
Booth for a 27th rounder...

IN:

Sheahan Richards

Jones Barkley
Stoner Homenic

Leduc - not NHL ready
Regier - UFA salary gone year end.

Brodeur

Nsh 1st 2015
Edm 1st 2016
Ana 3rd 2015
LA 2nd 2015
Nyi 2nd 2015
Nyi 2nd 2016

27.5 Million in space headed into the draft.
Enter with 2 1st rounders, 2 second rounders
Enter 2016 draft with 2 1sts and 2 seconds...

Play the rest of the year with an AHL squad and get top 5 pick, Obviously Brodeur probably would come to this, but find another backup/ 3rd stringer to ride pine while Reimer gets peppered...

OUT:

Kessel Bozak JVR
Lupul Winnick Booth

Dion Franson Gardner

Bernier

TO 2nd and 3rd in 2015
2015 2nd Winnick - gone in Sheahan deal.

Enter 2015-16 with Kadri, Shaehan, Richards and Holland at centre, a very young d corps with Polak and Robidas being the elder guys. Gonna suck in 15-16 but will get another quality pick out of it. By 2018 they would have a good young team that grew up together... Plus this isn't even factoring in the massive cap space to retool with any sensible UFA that might become available, or perhaps a solid goalie under contract if Reims doesn't perform...

- aminnes


We don't have a 2nd this year, and I feel like you're underselling JvR and Kessel.


lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 25 @ 6:41 PM ET
I see what you are saying.


But I have an awful feeling that Nonis is going to give Berningpain a bloated deal and the leafs will be stuck with a "just ok" goaltender.

At least Lou is a Legit #1.

- Byfuglien Ate Me


I hope not

Give it a few years and Bibeau will be making a name for himself...
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jan 25 @ 6:44 PM ET
We don't have a 2nd this year, and I feel like you're underselling JvR and Kessel.
- lumlums


Trying to be realistic, forgot about that 2nd... They could use another one if this type if situation were to happen. Dreaming of course...
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jan 25 @ 6:44 PM ET
I hope not

Give it a few years and Bibeau will be making a name for himself...

- lumlums


I have high hopes for him.

Leafs should get what they can for JB and continue to tank.

He is clearly not the answer.
Champ
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 25 @ 6:44 PM ET
We don't have a 2nd this year, and I feel like you're underselling JvR and Kessel.
- lumlums


You guys are nuts
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jan 25 @ 6:47 PM ET

Nick Foligno CARES.
StargateSG1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
Joined: 03.07.2013

Jan 25 @ 6:47 PM ET
You guys are nuts
- Champ



Some are.
They seem to overvalue mediocre players with terrible contracts so much, Sabres fans look modest in comparison.
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jan 25 @ 6:48 PM ET
Dion to LA for Richards - it's just reality, not getting anyone else..
Kessel and TO's 2nd to Nashville for Jones, Bartley and Nashvilles 1st...
Lupul to the Ducks for Stoner and a 3rd...
Bozak to LA for Regier and a 2nd...
JVR to NYI for Homenic and 2nd...
Franson to NYI for 2016 2nd and Loic Leduc...
Bernier to Edmonton for a 2016 1st...
Gardiner and a 2nd to Det for Sheahan...
3rd to St.Louis for Brodeur...
Winnick for a 2nd...
Booth for a 27th rounder...

IN:

Sheahan Richards

Jones Barkley
Stoner Homenic

Leduc - not NHL ready
Regier - UFA salary gone year end.

Brodeur

Nsh 1st 2015
Edm 1st 2016
Ana 3rd 2015
LA 2nd 2015
Nyi 2nd 2015
Nyi 2nd 2016

27.5 Million in space headed into the draft.
Enter with 2 1st rounders, 2 second rounders
Enter 2016 draft with 2 1sts and 2 seconds...

Play the rest of the year with an AHL squad and get top 5 pick, Obviously Brodeur probably would come to this, but find another backup/ 3rd stringer to ride pine while Reimer gets peppered...

OUT:

Kessel Bozak JVR
Lupul Winnick Booth

Dion Franson Gardner

Bernier

TO 2nd and 3rd in 2015
2015 2nd Winnick - gone in Sheahan deal.

Enter 2015-16 with Kadri, Shaehan, Richards and Holland at centre, a very young d corps with Polak and Robidas being the elder guys. Gonna suck in 15-16 but will get another quality pick out of it. By 2018 they would have a good young team that grew up together... Plus this isn't even factoring in the massive cap space to retool with any sensible UFA that might become available, or perhaps a solid goalie under contract if Reims doesn't perform...

- aminnes



u want gardiner for a 2nd line center?
StargateSG1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
Joined: 03.07.2013

Jan 25 @ 6:49 PM ET
Nick Foligno CARES.
- Byfuglien Ate Me



NHL is taking a lot of crap for making Foligno the captain..
It makes no sense, other than he is a Jacket.
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jan 25 @ 6:49 PM ET
Some are.
They seem to overvalue mediocre players with terrible contracts so much, Sabres fans look modest in comparison.

- StargateSG1

Franson and Gardiner to detroit for a 1st, 2nd and Sheahan.

im combining the trades that the wings have been from leafers on here.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 25 @ 6:51 PM ET
Dion to LA for Richards - it's just reality, not getting anyone else..
Kessel and TO's 2nd to Nashville for Jones, Bartley and Nashvilles 1st...
Lupul to the Ducks for Stoner and a 3rd...
Bozak to LA for Regier and a 2nd...
JVR to NYI for Homenic and 2nd...
Franson to NYI for 2016 2nd and Loic Leduc...
Bernier to Edmonton for a 2016 1st...
Gardiner and a 2nd to Det for Sheahan...
3rd to St.Louis for Brodeur...
Winnick for a 2nd...
Booth for a 27th rounder...

IN:

Sheahan Richards

Jones Barkley
Stoner Homenic

Leduc - not NHL ready
Regier - UFA salary gone year end.

Brodeur

Nsh 1st 2015
Edm 1st 2016
Ana 3rd 2015
LA 2nd 2015
Nyi 2nd 2015
Nyi 2nd 2016

27.5 Million in space headed into the draft.
Enter with 2 1st rounders, 2 second rounders
Enter 2016 draft with 2 1sts and 2 seconds...

Play the rest of the year with an AHL squad and get top 5 pick, Obviously Brodeur probably would come to this, but find another backup/ 3rd stringer to ride pine while Reimer gets peppered...

OUT:

Kessel Bozak JVR
Lupul Winnick Booth

Dion Franson Gardner

Bernier

TO 2nd and 3rd in 2015
2015 2nd Winnick - gone in Sheahan deal.

Enter 2015-16 with Kadri, Shaehan, Richards and Holland at centre, a very young d corps with Polak and Robidas being the elder guys. Gonna suck in 15-16 but will get another quality pick out of it. By 2018 they would have a good young team that grew up together... Plus this isn't even factoring in the massive cap space to retool with any sensible UFA that might become available, or perhaps a solid goalie under contract if Reims doesn't perform...

- aminnes


You (frank)ed us over in the present and the future. Great job
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 25 @ 6:51 PM ET
You guys are nuts
- Champ



EDIT: Assuming a trade of Kessel to Nash and JvR to the Isles as mentioned, what do you think is a fair price?
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