And thats a valid opinion. Just get ready for more of the same of what youve seen for the last 4 yrs
- clark_griswold

so you're opinion is trade everyone? get what you can for anybody?

If Cody Franson can't bring back a late first round pick, you gotta pay him the 5-6 million/yr 5 year contract he's demanding!

How ridiculous does that sound?
- 1979AD

i know you are joking... so my response won't take its usual form


I understand that this is supposed to be a deep draft... so maybe the better approach is to grab a few second rounders so that you might be positioned to pull off a trade of a couple of picks in the 31-60 range for a single in the 25-30 range - if there's a particular player they are after.

I can see Franson going for a 2nd and a young roster player or prospect.

so you're opinion is trade everyone? get what you can for anybody?
- shmenge

Take your time and do it right...but yes..except for rielly/nylander...are u worried we'll be like edmonton or buffalo? Because i have news: we already are..we just have a more expensive team, finish about 5-6 spots higher and pick worse. Standings dont lie.

Thoughts?

im not saying i WANT to trade him. But you have to. You need to rebuild. I 100% agree with you no one wants our crap. They want the same players we want to keep. So....you stay status quo, or you rebuild. Can't have it both ways.
- clark_griswold

for the same reasons you're describing Kessel, Phaneuf and Lupul need to go before JvR goes. Practically speaking moving JvR without moving the others sends the wrong reason and would simply because it would be easier to move his contract than the others. That's why Nonis should be kept around a while longer to clean up his own mess.

i know you are joking... so my response won't take its usual form


I understand that this is supposed to be a deep draft... so maybe the better approach is to grab a few second rounders so that you might be positioned to pull off a trade of a couple of picks in the 31-60 range for a single in the 25-30 range - if there's a particular player they are after.

I can see Franson going for a 2nd and a young roster player or prospect.
- BorjeFan4Ever

Franson for a 2nd and Leduc!

for the same reasons you're describing Kessel, Phaneuf and Lupul need to go before JvR goes. Practically speaking moving JvR without moving the others sends the wrong reason and would simply because it would be easier to move his contract than the others. That's why Nonis should be kept around a while longer to clean up his own mess.
- BorjeFan4Ever

The return for jvr would be huge. And he would get a better return now IMO at deadline than at the draft. Desperate teams and his contract fits easily. But i agree with you, everyone must go

Endor heard of the potential Dion trade...


- aminnes

post of the day

i know you are joking... so my response won't take its usual form


I understand that this is supposed to be a deep draft... so maybe the better approach is to grab a few second rounders so that you might be positioned to pull off a trade of a couple of picks in the 31-60 range for a single in the 25-30 range - if there's a particular player they are after.

I can see Franson going for a 2nd and a young roster player or prospect.
- BorjeFan4Ever

I'm just at a loss how he could demand a contract like that if he's not worth a late 1st in a deep draft, even as an impending UFA.

Take your time and do it right...but yes..except for rielly/nylander...are u worried we'll be like edmonton or buffalo? Because i have news: we already are..we just have a more expensive team, finish about 5-6 spots higher and pick worse. Standings dont lie.

Thoughts?
- clark_griswold

your core is a lot thinner than mine that's all, management has made a lot of gambles that haven't paid off, how do you know your's will?. We still have a lot of young guys worth keeping along with Reilly/Nylander - like JVR and Kessel

your core is a lot thinner than mine that's all, management has made a lot of gambles that haven't paid off, how do you know your's will?. We still have a lot of young guys worth keeping along with Reilly/Nylander - like JVR and Kessel
- shmenge

It's a culture thing, these guys don't want to play hard every night and back check...

post of the day
- the_eye

means a lot, means a lot...

It's a culture thing, these guys don't want to play hard every night and back check...
- aminnes

maybe try getting a 1C first and see what they can do without Bozo

your core is a lot thinner than mine that's all, management has made a lot of gambles that haven't paid off, how do you know your's will?. We still have a lot of young guys worth keeping along with Reilly/Nylander - like JVR and Kessel
- shmenge

While no guarantees my core (rebuild ) pans out, it is a guarantee this core will never work.

maybe try getting a 1C first and see what they can do without Bozo
- shmenge

Do u realize how hard it is to get one? Second...none are available! we dont have the assets...im sorry. Its all opinion on here, but u have to see that no one wants our crap. We have to give to get. Or we statstay the course and get the same crap we've gotten last 4 years.

That contract needs to stay with the Leafs.
- iTOLDu

that line of thinking makes no sense. what if a trade came along which better positioned the Leafs moving forward and it involved JVR? can't move him because he's got a good contract? what ever happened to selling high? JvR will never be more valuable than he is right now.

Do u realize how hard it is to get one? Second...none are available! we dont have the assets...im sorry. Its all opinion on here, but u have to see that no one wants our crap. We have to give to get. Or we statstay the course and get the same crap we've gotten last 4 years.
- clark_griswold

Did you think the trades I purposed yesterday are realistic?..

Did you think the trades I purposed yesterday are realistic?..
- aminnes

only if one of them involves UG coming back

While no guarantees my core (rebuild ) pans out, it is a guarantee this core will never work.
- clark_griswold

because we have never addressed our needs. We still need a 1C and 1 and 2D. You can't just get rid of 17 roster spots in one season/off-season as you suggest. You make whatever trades you can and dump what trash you can for now. You give the impression this can all be fixed in one draft and a JVR trade. I know you didn't say that but this is no quick fix. You keep Kessel, JVR for now. Change the core but we have some great young pieces we need to add to. Bozak is a problem and his spot needs an upgrade, that to me is priority #1

oh and new blog

only if one of them involves UG coming back
- the_eye

That was basically the entire plan, after moving people out of the way, tanking, for several years, UG makes his mighty return in exchange for a 1991 WinnWell jock strap...

Did you think the trades I purposed yesterday are realistic?..
- aminnes

Didnt see them

because we have never addressed our needs. We still need a 1C and 1 and 2D. You can't just get rid of 17 roster spots in one season/off-season as you suggest. You make whatever trades you can and dump what trash you can for now. You give the impression this can all be fixed in one draft and a JVR trade. I know you didn't say that but this is no quick fix. You keep Kessel, JVR for now. Change the core but we have some great young pieces we need to add to. Bozak is a problem and his spot needs an upgrade, that to me is priority #1
- shmenge

I dont see how you acquire a #1 centre period. No one is trading them. I guess u and i are just on different wavelengths here.

I dont see how you acquire a #1 centre period. No one is trading them. I guess u and i are just on different wavelengths here.
- clark_griswold

You only get cornerstone players through the draft.

Especially a #1 C...

But I happen to think Kadri and Nylander might pan out well..

So.. Trade whoever is worth anything not named Kadri, Rielly, or Nylander and let's put ourselves in the best draft position possible.

We need McDavid guys... Bad!

You only get cornerstone players through the draft.

Especially a #1 C...

But I happen to think Kadri and Nylander might pan out well..

So.. Trade whoever is worth anything not named Kadri, Rielly, or Nylander and let's put ourselves in the best draft position possible.

We need McDavid guys... Bad!
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I would want to keep JVR if we can. we would really need a high pick to deal him cause a team knows what they are getting in him. he can put up 30g and 30a a year, even on a better team. i understand why people want to trade him since it'll be a while before we are relevant, but i do wish they don't move him. i think it's best to save moving him in the offseason/at the draft cause i think the return will be much higher then it will be at the deadline

I'm just at a loss how he could demand a contract like that if he's not worth a late 1st in a deep draft, even as an impending UFA.
- 1979AD

he probably isn't... its likely the collection of media genius' dreaming up stories.