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jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jan 26 @ 1:17 PM ET
Ya, which is a regular shift for a 4th liner... Hello, Mcfly, anyone in there Mcfly?...


- aminnes

You should really go and check his TOI played in that playoff run..
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jan 26 @ 1:17 PM ET
You mean top 2Dman who gets paid like one? Yeah. Totally.

Should look around the league and realize he got market value.

- jbold

You don't pay a mediocre Dman 7 mil for 7 years, it 's stupid, period.
DougGilmour_93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.30.2013

Jan 26 @ 1:17 PM ET
no..but who cares anyways
- senstroll


so then what happens? just normal salary
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jan 26 @ 1:17 PM ET
Lets pick up Richards :D
- DarcyTucker16

lets all go to hell in a hand basket
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jan 26 @ 1:18 PM ET
better for kessel and better than bozak probably
- DougGilmour_93

I'll gladly take Bozak and his contract over Richards and his contract.


At least Bozak as a tradeable contact.
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jan 26 @ 1:18 PM ET
better for kessel and better than bozak probably
- DougGilmour_93

he would be the no 1 centre on the Leafs

fak the Leafs suck
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jan 26 @ 1:18 PM ET
You think Richards would help them right now? Instead of Simmonds and Schenn?
- jbold


I don't know, at that time they had just went to the finals, today, right now, ya probably, not but then is he demoted and playing 4th line in Philly, probably not...
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jan 26 @ 1:19 PM ET
You don't pay a mediocre Dman 7 mil for 7 years, it 's stupid, period.
- LeafMan

Which is why the Leafs didn't


But looking around the league, Dions contract looks pretty nice when comparing Niskanen, Orpik, Carle, Myers, and many others.

I get you hate Dion, but time to open your eyes a bit and look around the league.

Good dman, who plays heavy minutes on the Leafs will get 7 million. Easily.


DougGilmour_93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.30.2013

Jan 26 @ 1:19 PM ET
I'll gladly take Bozak and his contract over Richards and his contract.


At least Bozak as a tradeable contact.

- jbold


Exactly so trade bozak and the rest of the losers that they said they want to ship out, pick up richards to have some leadership in there and we will still have an excess of cap left over. Remember this is free, we arent paying anything and we would be at the same time retaining assets for guys that we want shipped out.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 26 @ 1:20 PM ET
Go on..
- jbold


You think Richards would help them right now? Instead of Simmonds and Schenn?

They don't win the Cup without their second line centre and via proxy Carter. So it doesn't matter. They don't win the Cup with a second line centre of Stoll with Simmonds on the wing, Johnson being the worst defenseman in the league and Schenn in junior.
DougGilmour_93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.30.2013

Jan 26 @ 1:20 PM ET
he would be the no 1 centre on the Leafs

fak the Leafs suck

- the_eye


Pretty much
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jan 26 @ 1:21 PM ET
You think Richards would help them right now? Instead of Simmonds and Schenn?

They don't win the Cup without their second line centre and via proxy Carter. So it doesn't matter. They don't win the Cup with a second line centre of Stoll with Simmonds on the wing, Johnson being the worst defenseman in the league and Schenn in junior.

- AdamFrench

Who knows? By that logic, they could have won 3 straight cups if they decided to trade Simmonds or others players at the time.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 26 @ 1:21 PM ET
so then what happens? just normal salary
- DougGilmour_93


if they claim him its full salary
.there used to be re-entry waivers where iirc you only had to take half the hit

anyway.. the leafs dont have the cap for either scenario .. and this team is in no position to even consider it

those days are over..thankfully
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jan 26 @ 1:21 PM ET
I'll gladly take Bozak and his contract over Richards and his contract.


At least Bozak as a tradeable contact.

- jbold


(frank) I hope Le Brun is right.
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jan 26 @ 1:22 PM ET
Exactly so trade bozak and the rest of the losers that they said they want to ship out, pick up richards to have some leadership in there and we will still have an excess of cap left over. Remember this is free, we arent paying anything and we would be at the same time retaining assets for guys that we want shipped out.
- DougGilmour_93

Or trade a bad contract for Richards instead.

Just because he's free, doesnt mean it'd be a good move. His salary is god awful.

Especially with how tight we're gonna be, we have to lock up Kadri long term. And bernier.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jan 26 @ 1:22 PM ET
You don't pay a mediocre Dman 7 mil for 7 years, it 's stupid, period.
- LeafMan


But the scene in 24/7, it was such compelling television...

aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jan 26 @ 1:24 PM ET
Which is why the Leafs didn't


But looking around the league, Dions contract looks pretty nice when comparing Niskanen, Orpik, Carle, Myers, and many others.

I get you hate Dion, but time to open your eyes a bit and look around the league.

Good dman, who plays heavy minutes on the Leafs will get 7 million. Easily.

- jbold


So just play big minutes, the effectiveness of said minutes is inconsequential?...
explorer
Joined: 01.07.2015

Jan 26 @ 1:24 PM ET
wow we are losers
- DougGilmour_93

thank god we do not need or want Richards
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jan 26 @ 1:24 PM ET
if they claim him its full salary
.there used to be re-entry waivers where iirc you only had to take half the hit

anyway.. the leafs dont have the cap for either scenario .. and this team is in no position to even consider it

those days are over..thankfully

- senstroll

i think they do have the cap because or the Lupul injury, so don't hold your breath
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jan 26 @ 1:24 PM ET
So just play big minutes, the effectiveness of said minutes is inconsequential?...
- aminnes

He's quite effective, actually.

Up until this slide, he was having a very similar season to Shea Weber.

But of course, Leaf fans refuse to look around the league.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jan 26 @ 1:24 PM ET
Or trade a bad contract for Richards instead.

Just because he's free, doesnt mean it'd be a good move. His salary is god awful.

Especially with how tight we're gonna be, we have to lock up Kadri long term. And bernier.

- jbold


RFA's bud...
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 26 @ 1:25 PM ET
Who knows? By that logic, they could have won 3 straight cups if they decided to trade Simmonds or others players at the time.
- jbold

Trade for whom? You need to go into the context. Richards was on the block. Carter on the block. Who else was traded at the time?
DougGilmour_93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.30.2013

Jan 26 @ 1:25 PM ET
Or trade a bad contract for Richards instead.

Just because he's free, doesnt mean it'd be a good move. His salary is god awful.

Especially with how tight we're gonna be, we have to lock up Kadri long term. And bernier.

- jbold


Like Clarkson? or Robidas? We will still have more than enough cap to sign those guys with the cap rising if lupul, gards, phaneuf, bozak, franson are all traded
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jan 26 @ 1:26 PM ET
But the scene in 24/7, it was such compelling television...


- aminnes

This is the exact moment that you need the DeLorean with the flux capacitor.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jan 26 @ 1:26 PM ET
He's quite effective, actually.

Up until this slide, he was having a very similar season to Shea Weber.

But of course, Leaf fans refuse to look around the league.

- jbold


Ya like every year, he can't handle big minutes, gets tired and starts to suck... That means he isn't a 7 million number 1 because other 7 million number1s don't tire out halfway through every year. Dion should be playing 18 minutes agate on the second pairing making 4-4.5 per year...
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