bogosian has more value than jvr....defense is overrated?
- Lee Denault

No way BoGo has more value than JVR.

That's like saying Bernier has more value than Lack.

Oldvechkin tossing him on the ice and him doing nothing in the Rematch after the Komorov incident was the end of me supporting Dion as a leader for me.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

No way BoGo has more value than JVR.

That's like saying Bernier has more value than Lack.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

im aware amininniesnsns said that

So for the record, do people think I am incorrect in saying there's a shift and that defense is perceived as more important than offense?
- RogerRoeper

You obviously need a good balance, but solid D and great goaltending wins championships.

No way BoGo has more value than JVR.

That's like saying Bernier has more value than Lack.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

No way BoGo has more value than JVR.

That's like saying Bernier has more value than Lack.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

I did not edit it. That was the previous one which I admitted to you I had done due to misunderstanding your point.
- RogerRoeper

whatever. end of the day both are equally important

I'm glad that abomination is over. Couldn't watch it. Stupid pablum, being force fed to the Yankees and Confederates to the south of us. It's like drinking Nestles Quick, with water and not milk. It's a total waste of a true Canadian's time.

I'm glad that abomination is over. Couldn't watch it. Stupid pablum, being force fed to the Yankees and Confederates to the south of us. It's like drinking Nestles Quick, with water and not milk. It's a total waste of a true Canadian's time.
- PrinceLH

shouldn't you be off peddling Kessels?

When do we play again? Wednesday? Time to start cheering for the Devils, in this all important 4 pointer.

Dion shadows the oppositions' best players every night and is actually playing a defensive role. I'm not sure why people aren't seeing that.

He's actually the NHL's #1 D-Man in QOC the last 3 seasons.
- RogerRoeper

Unfortunately, he's not very good at it!

The fact that he is the Leafs #1 defenceman and faces the other teams toughest competition every game says more about how thin the Leafs defence is then how good a defender Phaneuf is.

whatever. end of the day both are equally important
- Lee Denault

IMO Toronto had lots of talent, but are poorly assembled. JVR and Kessel are both one dimensional yet are your best forwards.

You have 4 fairly one dimensional d men. So 2 have to play together

I'm glad that abomination is over. Couldn't watch it. Stupid pablum, being force fed to the Yankees and Confederates to the south of us. It's like drinking Nestles Quick, with water and not milk. It's a total waste of a true Canadian's time.
- PrinceLH

shouldn't you be off peddling Kessels?
- the_eye

Give me 48 hours and the means to do it, and it will be done.

Unfortunately, he's not very good at it!

The fact that he is the Leafs #1 defenceman and faces the other teams toughest competition every game says more about how thin the Leafs defence is then how good a defender Phaneuf is.
- hagar58

Someone who gets it!

IMO Toronto had lots of talent, but are poorly assembled. JVR and Kessel are both one dimensional yet are your best forwards.

You have 4 fairly one dimensional d men. So 2 have to play together
- Bieksa#3

and fans want to keep them all.

Unfortunately, he's not very good at it!

The fact that he is the Leafs #1 defenceman and faces the other teams toughest competition every game says more about how thin the Leafs defence is then how good a defender Phaneuf is.
- hagar58

Yep #1 defender due to Lack of options. Yet they paid him like a true #1

I've been very civilized on this thread all day and do not mean to troll with this upcoming comment.

But.

The Leafs are softer than the Canucks. Physically no. Mentally yes.

aaaaaaahhhhhhhh it feels good to get that off my chest.

Unfortunately, he's not very good at it!

The fact that he is the Leafs #1 defenceman and faces the other teams toughest competition every game says more about how thin the Leafs defence is then how good a defender Phaneuf is.
- hagar58

but would he not be a better defender if it wasn't all on his shoulders?
or Fransons for that matter

When do we play again? Wednesday? Time to start cheering for the Devils, in this all important 4 pointer.
- PrinceLH

Hope it's not cancelled. Major snow storm scheduled the next couple of days.

I've been very civilized on this thread all day and do not mean to troll with this upcoming comment.

But.

The Leafs are softer than the Canucks. Physically no. Mentally yes.

aaaaaaahhhhhhhh it feels good to get that off my chest.
- vancity787

I've been very civilized on this thread all day and do not mean to troll with this upcoming comment.

But.

The Leafs are softer than the Canucks. Physically no. Mentally yes.

aaaaaaahhhhhhhh it feels good to get that off my chest.
- vancity787

I think their records speak for themselves.

Yep #1 defender due to Lack of options. Yet they paid him like a true #1
- Bieksa#3

#1 D-Men are not getting 7 million now. It's 9.

I've been very civilized on this thread all day and do not mean to troll with this upcoming comment.

But.

The Leafs are softer than the Canucks. Physically no. Mentally yes.

aaaaaaahhhhhhhh it feels good to get that off my chest.
- vancity787

also known as lack of heart?

#1 D-Men are not getting 7 million now. It's 9.
- RogerRoeper

Just because one got 9 mill doesn't mean they all do