In no way am I advocating picking Richards up or suggesting he is a solution, but you guys seem to be forgetting he is a free player. I'm pretty sure a team can place him back on waivers if he doesn't work out. What harm is it for any team to pick him up, see how he performs and go from there.

Maybe the Kings benefit from freeing up cap space but there is no guarantee they get a better player back through trade.... I think this is a desperate gamble by Lombardi, showing the team he isn't afraid to make some moves.
- belcherbd

Damn that salary, he isn't close to being free.

There are some rules with picking up on waivers. Not allowed to trade him that season or something. I don't see him being a solution here not with that contract amount and term.

With the cap possibly staying where it is at, there might be better options in the off season if other teams are tight for cap space. Who knows. It is not a great contract.

In no way am I advocating picking Richards up or suggesting he is a solution, but you guys seem to be forgetting he is a free player. I'm pretty sure a team can place him back on waivers if he doesn't work out. What harm is it for any team to pick him up, see how he performs and go from there.

Maybe the Kings benefit from freeing up cap space but there is no guarantee they get a better player back through trade.... I think this is a desperate gamble by Lombardi, showing the team he isn't afraid to make some moves.
- belcherbd

Because if he retires early the team picking him up will be hit with part of the recapture penalty. Kings right now would have a 4.85 mil cap hit every year until 2020.

Walk away

We live in a cap world.... cap space taken up by a player who can't produce costs you something. I wouldn't see him as free at all.
- Mungo

Again not a move I think the Benning will or should do, but I could see other teams picking him up and getting a "free" player. A lot of teams have to be creative just to get to the cap floor, this looks like a great opportunity to do that.

Couple years ago people were debating if we should have taken Richards instead of Kesler.

Damn that salary, he isn't close to being free.

There are some rules with picking up on waivers. Not allowed to trade him that season or something. I don't see him being a solution here not with that contract amount and term.

With the cap possibly staying where it is at, there might be better options in the off season if other teams are tight for cap space. Who knows. It is not a great contract.
- hillbillydeluxe

Plus if you are the team putting him on waivers the second time you are stuck with the 4.85 cap hit every year

Kings have 9.917 of dead cap space now..... and i still think they would kick the Canucks ass

Kings have 9.917 of dead cap space now..... and i still think they would kick the Canucks ass
- Mungo

This year

Because if he retires early the team picking him up will be hit with part of the recapture penalty. Kings right now would have a 4.85 mil cap hit every year until 2020.

Walk away
- VANTEL

True if he goes to waivers that is what he will cost them, but I doubt that is the case. Likely they buy him out if he isn't picked up, still not ideal but it would cost them 1.9 a year over the next 10 years opposed to 4.85 over 5.

I think my math is right 2/3rds of 28.75 cap hit owed is 18.98 over twice the contract length (5) is aprox 1.9.

Any way you slice it, LA is looking desperate to improve their club, I bet some team picks him up, Carolina, Calgary, Ottawa, Arizona, are all candidates. Remember as well his actual salary is almost 7 million less than his cap hit over that time, something some clubs will see as very attractive.

This year
- VANTEL

Hopefully, would love to see Doughty on the losing end of our match ups again.... he gets pretty sulky

Again not a move I think the Benning will or should do, but I could see other teams picking him up and getting a "free" player. A lot of teams have to be creative just to get to the cap floor, this looks like a great opportunity to do that.
- belcherbd

True, saw that with Jovo's contract in Florida.

Just with the uncertainty of the cap, I don't want any part of Richards and his contract. The people that say he has value talk about leadership and rings, the people that say stay away from him talk about his previous partying, possible drug use/abuse and underperforming play...

He is free, but once you claim him, you might be stuck with him. I'd rather keep our options open and possibly sign a ufa at a similar cap hit and shorter term if the right player comes along. Even if it doesn't happen this summer, we would still have that option for more summers ahead when you look at Richards' term.


If there is no chance of making the playoffs for a team, there is no need to pick him up on waivers...

Damn that salary, he isn't close to being free.

There are some rules with picking up on waivers. Not allowed to trade him that season or something. I don't see him being a solution here not with that contract amount and term.

With the cap possibly staying where it is at, there might be better options in the off season if other teams are tight for cap space. Who knows. It is not a great contract.
- hillbillydeluxe

I believe that only applies to players imported from outside NA at the beginning of the season.

"If a team brings in a player from a league outside North America after the start of the NHL season, then that player must pass through waivers before playing in the NHL. If such a player is claimed from waivers, he cannot be traded for the rest of the season without passing through waivers."

But it looks like a claimed player must be offered to other teams who had placed a claim for that player before making a trade.

"Once a team claims a player from waivers, it may not trade that player unless it first offers him to any other teams who made waiver claims for him. If the claiming team places the player on waivers in the same season and his original team claims him, the team may send the player to the AHL without placing him on waivers again unless he meets the criteria for waiver expiration below."

He'll get claimed when he eventually comes back up...

He'll get claimed when he eventually comes back up...




- bloatedmosquito

Why?

He'll get claimed when he eventually comes back up...




- bloatedmosquito

No more re-entry waivers.

Why?
- VANTEL

Re-entry waivers of course. Silly Vantel.

Re-entry waivers of course. Silly Vantel.
- bloatedmosquito

No such thing as re-entry waivers. No more discounts

Holy (frank) you guys. We spent hours discussing this the other day.

We all now know that there are no re-entry waivers.

Holy (frank) you guys. We spent hours discussing this the other day.

We all now know that there are no re-entry waivers.
- bloatedmosquito

You've lost me . If there is no 50% discount anymore , why would a team wait until he is recalled instead of taking him on the way down

Holy (frank) you guys. We spent hours discussing this the other day.

We all now know that there are no re-entry waivers.
- bloatedmosquito

It's time we discuss the side effects of too many jazz cigarettes

It's time we discuss the side effects of too many jazz cigarettes
- Mungo

With bieska out injuried, are there plans to trade Kassian or someone else for some defensive help?

I believe that only applies to players imported from outside NA at the beginning of the season.

"If a team brings in a player from a league outside North America after the start of the NHL season, then that player must pass through waivers before playing in the NHL. If such a player is claimed from waivers, he cannot be traded for the rest of the season without passing through waivers."

But it looks like a claimed player must be offered to other teams who had placed a claim for that player before making a trade.

"Once a team claims a player from waivers, it may not trade that player unless it first offers him to any other teams who made waiver claims for him. If the claiming team places the player on waivers in the same season and his original team claims him, the team may send the player to the AHL without placing him on waivers again unless he meets the criteria for waiver expiration below."
- belcherbd

Yeah, I am unsure how this works. So if you want a player on waivers, you submit a claim, no knowing if other teams have already submitted a claim? The team that gets first dibs and claims said player then knows how many other teams submitted claims?

What do they mean by offering the player to other teams who made claims? Is that like a transfer instead of a trade?

With bieska out injuried, are there plans to trade Kassian or someone else for some defensive help?
- manvanfan

Benning said he wasn't after dmen to address Bieksa's absence... looking to see what guys from Utica step up maybe? if Corrado, Weber, Stanton and Sbisa can't get it done.

With bieska out injuried, are there plans to trade Kassian or someone else for some defensive help?
- manvanfan

Nope

You've lost me . If there is no 50% discount anymore , why would a team wait until he is recalled instead of taking him on the way down
- VANTEL

Were you not a part of this conversation:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...p?thread_id=123474&page=5

A few days ago I mentioned that with all the goalie injuries I don't think Markstrome would make it through re-entry waivers if the canucks brought him back up from the minors.

Totally unaware that the new CBA eliminated re-entry waivers. You and Lefty pointed out there was no more re-entry claims. Hilarity ensued.

Remember? Two days ago...