znagle
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Location: OH Joined: 10.02.2014
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I'm just guessing that Hornqvist + 11th wasn't on the table. - jmatchett383
Even if that first was up for grabs we would have taken Kasperi then. We had him ranked at 6th overall if I remember correctly. Maybe we would of had to swap packs, which would have just been us spinning tires really and we wouldn't have gotten Spaling maybe. He is good in bottom 6, which he was signed for. Give us time to get healthy and he'll be a great depth guy. |
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znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: OH Joined: 10.02.2014
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Just saw this fancy new pie chart.... check it...
http://iguana.cs.toronto.edu/
"NHL: Player Chemistry
Analytics even Bruins fans can understand
This chart show which players have the best offensive chemistry. Hover over to display the goal production between two players. A thicker line indicates more goals. A line that is thicker at one end indicates that player scores more of the goals when those two connect." - j.boyd919
Fancy shmancy. Pretty cool though. Although it doesn't take into account posts/missed empty nets or anything else other than goals |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Just saw this fancy new pie chart.... check it...
http://iguana.cs.toronto.edu/
"NHL: Player Chemistry
Analytics even Bruins fans can understand
This chart show which players have the best offensive chemistry. Hover over to display the goal production between two players. A thicker line indicates more goals. A line that is thicker at one end indicates that player scores more of the goals when those two connect." - j.boyd919
LOL @ Rinaldo. One thin, straight line. |
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usethe1-2-2
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 03.02.2014
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LOL @ Rinaldo. One thin, straight line. - jmatchett383
Aaaaaaaaaand he crossed it OH |
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znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: OH Joined: 10.02.2014
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LOL @ Rinaldo. One thin, straight line. - jmatchett383
Too bad Sill isn't on it to see his toothpick line |
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Johnny Wrath
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Draft more Swedes, CA Joined: 01.09.2009
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F - nbartley9
THIS!!
Hall of (frank)ing fame. |
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Johnny Wrath
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Draft more Swedes, CA Joined: 01.09.2009
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Seems like a lateral move. - jmatchett383
Totally. Bergenheim is a Penguin killer-type player, so obviously he would be a great Penguin. It worked really well for Ramzi Abid. |
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Cptmjl
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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It's never "Still Florida"! It's (frank)ing Mellanby and Vanbiesbrouck and stupid (frank)ing rats! - Topshelf Mountain
I loved when they started calling delay of game penalties for the rats. |
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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 12.21.2006
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As much bashing as he takes, I thought Scuds played his best game of the season last night. Was pretty good in Philly too.
Sutter and Spaling were 5.5 million dollars of poop. |
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nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 01.31.2012
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As much bashing as he takes, I thought Scuds played his best game of the season last night. Was pretty good in Philly too.
Sutter and Spaling were 5.5 million dollars of poop. - madmike71
Its a shame because Sutturd really showed signs of life to start the year, now he is back to his god awful self, I honestly cant stand the guy.
F Sutter |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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As much bashing as he takes, I thought Scuds played his best game of the season last night. Was pretty good in Philly too.
Sutter and Spaling were 5.5 million dollars of poop. - madmike71
Like I said, Scuderi taking Voracek off the ice for 17 minutes was the best thing he's done since being resigned. |
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usethe1-2-2
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 03.02.2014
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Totally. Bergenheim is a Penguin killer-type player, so obviously he would be a great Penguin. It worked really well for Ramzi Abid. - Johnny Wrath
That. What. How the heck is that related to a trade for Bergenheim? |
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usethe1-2-2
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 03.02.2014
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Like I said, Scuderi taking Voracek off the ice for 17 minutes was the best thing he's done since being resigned. - jmatchett383
Yup, and he didn't even do anything hahah He was just there. |
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Johnny Wrath
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Draft more Swedes, CA Joined: 01.09.2009
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That. What. How the heck is that related to a trade for Bergenheim? - usethe1-2-2
It's just that I've noticed Penguin fans sometimes have an unreasonably high appraisal of opposing players who do well against the Penguins. If the Penguins could amass a bottom-six forward group full of Penguin killers, Jay Pandolfo would still be in the league. |
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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 12.21.2006
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Like I said, Scuderi taking Voracek off the ice for 17 minutes was the best thing he's done since being resigned. - jmatchett383
Well let's be honest... I think Voracek himself was more responsible for that than Scuds. |
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powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Columbia , MD Joined: 11.28.2006
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Thanks Gunner, definitely one of your best articles. I agree with all. Let Despres play, Give Poulliot a chance and put Ehrhoff on the first PP. Strange coaching decisions have crept into our heads, Deja vu, man! |
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usethe1-2-2
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 03.02.2014
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It's just that I've noticed Penguin fans sometimes have an unreasonably high appraisal of opposing players who do well against the Penguins. If the Penguins could amass a bottom-six forward group full of Penguin killers, Jay Pandolfo would still be in the league. - Johnny Wrath
Of course, most fans do, however Bergenheim is a very productive player. He is a more physical player than Spaling and isn't signed beyond this season. I think the deal rids us of a contract we don't need while giving us a player to win now.
Better fit, better production, but certainly not by that much. |
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Johnny Wrath
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Draft more Swedes, CA Joined: 01.09.2009
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Of course, most fans do, however Bergenheim is a very productive player. He is a more physical player than Spaling and isn't signed beyond this season. I think the deal rids us of a contract we don't need while giving us a player to win now.
Better fit, better production, but certainly not by that much. - usethe1-2-2
So what else is Pittsburgh trading to make this happen? You make a compelling case for Bergenheim to stay put. |
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usethe1-2-2
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 03.02.2014
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So what else is Pittsburgh trading to make this happen? You make a compelling case for Bergenheim to stay put. - Johnny Wrath
30 year old UFA who doesn't fit their long term plans. If you can bring in a quality player of similiar production who is younger... You might want to do so. |
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sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: CO Joined: 05.05.2011
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Martin didnt look too good on the PP. I would put Ehroff up there before PM at this point.
Scuds actually played alright last night.
Sutter needs to be a different player. Pens need a physical 3C, not a guy trying to be somethign hes not. |
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Johnny Wrath
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Draft more Swedes, CA Joined: 01.09.2009
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30 year old UFA who doesn't fit their long term plans. If you can bring in a quality player of similiar production who is younger... You might want to do so. - usethe1-2-2
"What if I told you that next year you could have a worse, younger player than you already have on an inflated contract?!" |
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Johnny Wrath
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Location: Draft more Swedes, CA Joined: 01.09.2009
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Martin didnt look too good on the PP. I would put Ehroff up there before PM at this point.
Scuds actually played alright last night.
Sutter needs to be a different player. Pens need a physical 3C, not a guy trying to be somethign hes not. - sammy87
I think Sutter is the pseudo-finesse game second coming of Josef Beranek.
One player being physical won't compensate for the Penguins' lack of team checking and team hitting. They don't operate as units of five offensively or defensively. It's all scoring on the rush and hoping. |
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znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: OH Joined: 10.02.2014
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Martin didnt look too good on the PP. I would put Ehroff up there before PM at this point.
Scuds actually played alright last night.
Sutter needs to be a different player. Pens need a physical 3C, not a guy trying to be somethign hes not. - sammy87
I would toss Pouliot out there on 1st PP. Anyone else notice that when he is out there he doesn't hesitate to fire the puck? Great shot and can actually hit the net. Once teams start adjusting to DP on the point that will free up room for the rest of the squad |
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Johnny Wrath
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Draft more Swedes, CA Joined: 01.09.2009
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I would toss Pouliot out there on 1st PP. Anyone else notice that when he is out there he doesn't hesitate to fire the puck? Great shot and can actually hit the net. Once teams start adjusting to DP on the point that will free up room for the rest of the squad - znagle
He puts it on net. Once there is a screen there, the puck stands a fair chance of going in or becoming a rebound. It's fairly easy unless scoring that way isn't considered skillful enough. |
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sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: CO Joined: 05.05.2011
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I think Sutter is the pseudo-finesse game second coming of Josef Beranek.
One player being physical won't compensate for the Penguins' lack of team checking and team hitting. They don't operate as units of five offensively or defensively. It's all scoring on the rush and hoping. - Johnny Wrath
I think the lack of physicality will be the Achilles heal once again. |
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