- DoubleDown

Also, it's not an edited image.

http://www.icejerseys.com...ey-Jersey-p8959/?pstart=1

Never posted that.

But come to think of it, sitting at -22 hardly makes him the cure..
- pete26

Love that you're giving these dreamers a dose of reality

Never posted that.

But come to think of it, sitting at -22 hardly makes him the cure..
- pete26

Pacs is +22, closest is Gallgher at +11

Never posted that.

But come to think of it, sitting at -22 hardly makes him the cure..
- pete26

I don't hate Petry, but Pete may have a point here...

I mean, I know he plays for the Oilers, but -62 in a 282 game career is... not good.

Never posted that.

But come to think of it, sitting at -22 hardly makes him the cure..
- pete26

yeah, their drafting system work, no doubt
- stinger67

Their biggest strentgh is their development system IMO. They turn talented players into complete players.

I don't hate Petry, but Pete may have a point here...

I mean, I know he plays for the Oilers, but -62 in a 282 game career is... not good.
- BINGO!

May???




























*runs*

Never posted that.

But come to think of it, sitting at -22 hardly makes him the cure..
- pete26

Because that's the stat one should be focused on.

May???




























*runs*
- pete26

Mae Young

Their biggest strentgh is their development system IMO. They turn talented players into complete players.
- QuebecPride

Yup


They also draft specific skillsets that they develop.

I don't hate Petry, but Pete may have a point here...

I mean, I know he plays for the Oilers, but -62 in a 282 game career is... not good.
- BINGO!

Out of curiosity, when was the last season the Oilers had a positive goal differential?

Out of curiosity, when was the last season the Oilers had a positive goal differential?
- 3M

2005-2006

2005-2006
- Pecafan Fan

Clearly, Petry is the problem.

Clearly, Petry is the problem.
- 3M

They're one of those teams where not one individual can be evaluated properly imho.

Given how big of a mess they have been for so long.

- Pecafan Fan

This guy will get fined by the Leafs!

Montreal is such a beautiful city.

They're one of those teams where not one individual can be evaluated properly imho.

Given how big of a mess they have been for so long.
- Pecafan Fan

I agree. When the team has spent 10 years giving up more goals than it scores, evaluating a particular player's +/- is a bit of an exercise in futility.

Out of curiosity, when was the last season the Oilers had a positive goal differential?
- 3M

Sure, but while +/- is an admittedly terrible stat, when it's THAT pronounced it has to mean something.

He's 271st in +/- among defensemen (Only Gorges and Ristolainen are worse)

92nd in blocked shots.

He's 10TH in the league in giveaways.

That's a lot.

Guys, it was a rumour started by rick Moffat... no need to argue over something a guy who can't put together two coherent sentences in a row says.

This guy will get fined by the Leafs!
- Dgrdnr

How come they don't fine people for throwing hats on the ice for the once a decade hattrick that happens? You can't change the rules for littering the ice depending on if it's for a good thing or bad.

They're one of those teams where not one individual can be evaluated properly imho.

Given how big of a mess they have been for so long.
- Pecafan Fan

The Leafs?

Sure, but while +/- is an admittedly terrible stat, when it's THAT pronounced it has to mean something.

He's 271st in +/- among defensemen (Only Gorges and Ristolainen are worse)

92nd in blocked shots.

He's 10TH in the league in giveaways.

That's a lot.
- BINGO!

What if he was on the Habs. You think it would be that bad? When a team is playing well, the +/- blows up. (frank), #3 was a +17 or so at one point in December.

Montreal is such a beautiful city.
- Pecafan Fan

Never happened anywhere else ever.

They're one of those teams where not one individual can be evaluated properly imho.

Given how big of a mess they have been for so long.
- Pecafan Fan

Fiche de Peter Budaj cette saison avec les Icecaps de St. John’s, dans la Ligue américaine: 0-7-4, moyenne de 3,69 et taux d’arrêts de .884.