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missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Jan 21 @ 9:43 AM ET
Zac Rinaldo ‏@RinaldoZac 13m13 minutes ago

I didn't intend to hurt Kris tonight. I'm very sorry I did. At no point did I ever "joke" about such a thing. These reports are untrue.




This clown is an embarrassment.

- Jsaquella

Its not his hit that generated momentum, but a successful kill of his 5 minutes major.
He had better had his trap shut
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 9:44 AM ET
Manning had a few adventures, but nothing major. He's not an NHL regular, and really probably shouldn't be. But he showed he can adequately fill in and play a semi-regular shift when spotted accordingly. Was solid overall.
- jmatchett383



I think he showed last night that he might have some potential as a NHL 6th defenseman. He was certainly better then Colaiacovo.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 21 @ 9:44 AM ET
the other issue with rinaldo's hit on letang was that it was very late. letang had given up the puck well before zac boarded him.

and really, akeson cant dress in front of rinaldo? i just dont understand the thinking there.

- Briere


I think that Akeson needs to play a top-9 (top-6 preferred) role with defensively sound players to be most effective.

However, seeing as Rinaldo was on a line with Simmonds and Raffl...yeah, I don't get it.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 21 @ 9:44 AM ET

Gotta think its the Pens pick that they'd be willing to deal, but I'd happily offer them Coburn for it!

- BiggE



I'd say. Could you imagine the uproar if the Oielrs missed out on Mcdavid? And yes, as much as I like Coburn, I'd pack his bags for that.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 21 @ 9:44 AM ET
I didn't get that.

And for the love of God, TAKE BRAYDEN SCHENN OFF OF THE TOP LINE! IT IS NOT WORKING!

- jmatchett383


If Laughton is healthy the next game's lines will probably be:

Raffl-G-Voracek
Schenn-Laughton-Simmonds
Umberger-Couturier-Read
VdV-Bellemare-Vinny

If he's not, White might get called up and scramble everything.
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Jan 21 @ 9:45 AM ET
the other issue with rinaldo's hit on letang was that it was very late. letang had given up the puck well before zac boarded him.

and really, akeson cant dress in front of rinaldo? i just dont understand the thinking there.

- Briere

He can now
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 21 @ 9:45 AM ET
I think he showed last night that he might have some potential as a NHL 6th defenseman. He was certainly better then Colaiacovo.
- MJL


"Better than Coliacovo" is not exactly a ringing endorsement.

But yes, he showed he could potentially be a 6, or at least a 6/7 swingman.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 9:46 AM ET
And Rinaldo is currently playing on a scoring line, no?
- Tomahawk



It's temporary due to injury. I'd rather see Akeson in that spot.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 21 @ 9:46 AM ET
If Laughton is healthy the next game's lines will probably be:

Raffl-G-Voracek
Schenn-Laughton-Simmonds
Umberger-Couturier-Read
VdV-Bellemare-Vinny

If he's not, White might get called up and scramble everything.

- Feanor


I could get down with that. If Laughton's not ready, I'd call White up, make Vinny the 2C and put White on the 4th line.

That second line would be a total sink or swim line.
Daveflyers36
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.20.2011

Jan 21 @ 9:47 AM ET
It's comical how anyone can still try to make a case for Rinaldo being an NHL player.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 21 @ 9:47 AM ET
Its not his hit that generated momentum, but a successful kill of his 5 minutes major.
He had better had his trap shut

- missingmike


Claude, Streit and Simmer need to lead the soap + sock brigade over to Zac's bunk.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 21 @ 9:48 AM ET
Claude, Streit and Simmer need to lead the soap + sock brigade over to Zac's bunk.
- Tomahawk


I'd prefer Rosehill with the lead pipe.
Briere
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jan 21 @ 9:49 AM ET
to take this a step or two further kids see what rinaldo, neal, etc do and it absolutely carries down to youth hockey. i realize im taking this to an extreme but these blatant hits from behind, up high, where your trying to injur esomeone MUST be removed from the sport.
go watch a few youth games in the DVHL, NJYHL, or where ever and its so prevelant its actually scary.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 21 @ 9:49 AM ET
I can't wait for Paul Stewart's rant today.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Jan 21 @ 9:50 AM ET
The hit seemed less severe than the one that got Orlov two games last season, but Rinaldo is a repeat offender. The NBC commentators flat out lying and saying it was square in the numbers when you can see Letang's #5 the whole time amused me.
- Feanor

ridiculously biased commentary the whole night....."look at how sucderi did this.....farnham was really classy there......greiss did an excellent job......"
i actually thought engblom was going to ask one of the penguins to marry him at some point
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 21 @ 9:50 AM ET
It's temporary due to injury. I'd rather see Akeson in that spot.
- MJL


And Akeson was sent back down... so kind of leads to the belief that it's not really about roles. For whatever reason, they like Zac over Akeson, no matter the circumstance.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 21 @ 9:51 AM ET
There's times that I hate you.


I hope they slam his nutsack in the car door.

- Jsaquella


Send him to Reading
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jan 21 @ 9:51 AM ET
I can't wait for Paul Stewart's rant today.
- jmatchett383


+1
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jan 21 @ 9:52 AM ET
Oilers willing to deal their 1st:
http://www.coppernblue.co...o-trade-first-round-picks

GO GO HEXY GOOOO!

- Tomahawk


"We'd be willing to make a deal to get a younger player a little further along than an 18-year-old." - MacT on #Oilers early draft picks


B Schenn? Couts? B Schenn + Couts? Simmonds?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 21 @ 9:52 AM ET
ridiculously biased commentary the whole night....."look at how sucderi did this.....farnham was really classy there......greiss did an excellent job......"
i actually thought engblom was going to ask one of the penguins to marry him at some point

- hogweed


Farnham did at least refrain from pummeling PEB when he was standing over him...that's not to say he didn't give him a few jabs when PEB was flat on his back.

And can someone tell me why Farnham didn't get an extra 2 for removing his helmet?
Daveflyers36
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.20.2011

Jan 21 @ 9:52 AM ET
For those that wonder why the Flyers don't play other teams with that kind of emotion like they do the Pens. The Flyers don't get under the skin of other teams and other teams don't react the same either. The Pens have yet to learn their lesson and keep trying to beat the Flyers at their own game. You aren't going to be the Rags,Wings, Hawks,Blues etc etc etc in that regard. Those teams know they are more talented and use that talent to win. The Pens are a far more talented team than the Flyers but are just too stupid to realize it.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jan 21 @ 9:54 AM ET
Claude, Streit and Simmer need to lead the soap + sock brigade over to Zac's bunk.
- Tomahawk


Err, wouldn't that be the end of the Berube when he bursts into the poopters to find out what the holy hell is going on in his latrine?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 21 @ 9:55 AM ET
For those that wonder why the Flyers don't play other teams with that kind of emotion like they do the Pens. The Flyers don't get under the skin of other teams and other teams don't react the same either. The Pens have yet to learn their lesson and keep trying to beat the Flyers at their own game. You aren't going to be the Rags,Wings, Hawks,Blues etc etc etc in that regard. Those teams know they are more talented and use that talent to win. The Pens are a far more talented team than the Flyers but are just too stupid to realize it.
- Daveflyers36


The Penguins seem really good at totally outplaying the Flyers for about 10 minutes. Then they get frustrated, and it turns into anarchy on ice for the next 45 minutes. Then, if the game is close or they're trailing, they go back to playing hockey for the last 5 minutes.
Briere
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jan 21 @ 9:55 AM ET
Farnham did at least refrain from pummeling PEB when he was standing over him...that's not to say he didn't give him a few jabs when PEB was flat on his back.

And can someone tell me why Farnham didn't get an extra 2 for removing his helmet?

- jmatchett383


i was wondering that myself. maybe cuz he doesnt wear a visor? im not clear on that rule.

also, was it downie that grabbed schenns visor during their fight? or was that another fight? is tha a extra two, kinda like afask masking penalty?
Fast_Eddie_1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Vorhees, NJ
Joined: 01.31.2012

Jan 21 @ 9:55 AM ET
In my opinion people are reacting correctly to the hit, in that it was a very bad hit, that could possibly have caused a serious injury, and he put the team in jeopardy. That there have been worse hits in my opinion, really doesn't matter.
- MJL


Oh, so you couldn't quote me then. Ok.

In my opinion, people are overreacting to the hit from the standpoint of its severity. However, like I noted in my previous comment, I am not condoning this type of behavior.

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