Why does everyone want to trade Turris all of a sudden.
- corbechev

Ya. I'm not so sure why either. Turris is this teams #1 centre. Next Patrice Bergeron/Jonathan Towes. Why would anyone want to trade that?

who? i haven't seen him anywhere but 3
- sensarmy_11

MCDavid is a lock at 1. Hanifin is #5 on the TSN rankings, the following is ISS.

2 Eichel, Jack C 10/28/1996 R 6.02 196 Boston University H.E.
3 Crouse, Lawson LW 6/23/1997 L 6.04 211 Kingston OHL
4 Hanifin, Noah LD 1/25/1997 L 6.02.75 203 Boston College H.E.
5 Rantanen, Mikko RW 10/29/1996 L 6.04 195 TPS Turku FinE
6 Werenski, Zach RD 7/19/1997 L 6.02 206 Michigan BigTen
7 Strome, Dylan C 3/7/1997 L 6.03 187 Erie OHL
8 Barzal, Mathew C 5/26/1997 R 5.11.25 175 Seattle WHL
9 Marner, Mitchell C 5/5/1997 R 5.11 155 London OHL
10 Provorov, Ivan LD 1/13/1997 L 6.00 191 Brandon WHL

-Lazar back to Junior
-Waive Greening
-Neil and 3rd to Vancouver for Kassian (Neil has been a soldier that Murray rewards by sending to a playoff team, a team that needs sandpaper/protection. Kassian has fallen out of favour in Van but if he ever lives up to his potential, he could be the young power forward Murray wants.
-With the addition of Kassian, and too many centres, we can afford to send Z.Smith to Arizona for Boedker who is a RFA.
-Phillips will ask for a shot at the cup as a 7th dman on a contender or he'll retire as a lifelong Sen, either way, he won't play next year.

-Lazar back to Junior
-Waive Greening
-Neil and 3rd to Vancouver for Kassian (Neil has been a soldier that Murray rewards by sending to a playoff team, a team that needs sandpaper/protection. Kassian has fallen out of favour in Van but if he ever lives up to his potential, he could be the young power forward Murray wants.
-With the addition of Kassian, and too many centres, we can afford to send Z.Smith to Arizona for Boedker who is a RFA.
-Phillips will ask for a shot at the cup as a 7th dman on a contender or he'll retire as a lifelong Sen, either way, he won't play next year.
- Kayak_kid25

Why do you possibly think Arizona would trade Boedker for Zack Smith? Boedker's a 50-60 point scoring winger who was a first round pick. You think they would deal him for a 4th line center?

Why do you possibly think Arizona would trade Boedker for Zack Smith? Boedker's a 50-60 point scoring winger who was a first round pick. You think they would deal him for a 4th line center?
- maaddmike

Sorry, forgot the (+ ...) after Smith. Obviously not straight up. What might actually make more sense Korpikoski going back to Ottawa.
With Arizona going the route of a rebuild and with Vermette likely done there, they need another big body down the middle, I think Smith could be a fit (he can play 3rd line too)

Sorry, forgot the (+ ...) after Smith. Obviously not straight up. What might actually make more sense Korpikoski going back to Ottawa.
With Arizona going the route of a rebuild and with Vermette likely done there, they need another big body down the middle, I think Smith could be a fit (he can play 3rd line too)
- Kayak_kid25

Murray was pretty specific. He talked about wanting a top 6 long term player similar to the Ryan deal. He appears to be looking at cap teams needing to make a move. Think Colorado, LA, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, Toronto, Rangers and even Edmonton. Some will need to make moves for cap compliance. Others will want to make moves in order to change the composition of the team.

Would Murray give up a top 10 pick for the right player? I would be very reluctant.

Murray was pretty specific. He talked about wanting a top 6 long term player similar to the Ryan deal. He appears to be looking at cap teams needing to make a move. Think Colorado, LA, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, Toronto, Rangers and even Edmonton. Some will need to make moves for cap compliance. Others will want to make moves in order to change the composition of the team.

Would Murray give up a top 10 pick for the right player? I would be very reluctant.
- spatso

Murray also said he knows ottawa needs a top end offensive talent and the only way to get elite talent is at the top of the draft and then said he knows the Sens probably won't make the playoffs but they are going to try anyways.....so essentially we are sacrificing our future (Mcdavid, eichel, storme) so we can not make the playoffs

Murray has been saying for 2 years we are underperforming - No We Suck - big difference. Admitting we are not close to being a contender is the first step, saying we underperform for 2 NHL season is insanity. We don't have the talent, the talent isn't under performing, it's doing the best it can but it's just not good enough.

We need high end top 3 forwards to help us win, another Jared Cowen or Mika zabinejqd doesn't help this team become a perennial playoff team - we need a game breaker at forward, alsmost every team has one except ottawa.

Murray also said he knows ottawa needs a top end offensive talent and the only way to get elite talent is at the top of the draft and then said he knows the Sens probably won't make the playoffs but they are going to try anyways.....so essentially we are sacrificing our future (Mcdavid, eichel, storme) so we can not make the playoffs

Murray has been saying for 2 years we are underperforming - No We Suck - big difference. Admitting we are not close to being a contender is the first step, saying we underperform for 2 NHL season is insanity. We don't have the talent, the talent isn't under performing, it's doing the best it can but it's just not good enough.

We need high end top 3 forwards to help us win, another Jared Cowen or Mika zabinejqd doesn't help this team become a perennial playoff team - we need a game breaker at forward, alsmost every team has one except ottawa.
- tuna99

Ottawa's one of the only teams with a gamebreaker on D, so that kind of answers your question.

But I do agree- we need more elite scoring forwards. Hoffman looks promising, and hopefully he continues to develop. Bobby Ryan, if supported better, will probably be another one.

They need an elite centre to play between those two.

Murray was pretty specific. He talked about wanting a top 6 long term player similar to the Ryan deal. He appears to be looking at cap teams needing to make a move. Think Colorado, LA, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, Toronto, Rangers and even Edmonton. Some will need to make moves for cap compliance. Others will want to make moves in order to change the composition of the team.

Would Murray give up a top 10 pick for the right player? I would be very reluctant.
- spatso

You can likely rule out TO and Boston from your list, trading in conference is one thing, but within the division is another (even though Reilly Smith would be sweet).
Colorado's price for O'Reily is likely ridiculous. Chicago seems like the only real dance partner, SAAD is up for a raise Sharp's name came up a lot last summer, perhaps one of them is moved.

I'd like to see them try to re-acquire Silfverberg as his value may have dropped.
Regardless of what they do, if Murray trades their top pick, he better be getting a hell of player!

Murray also said he knows ottawa needs a top end offensive talent and the only way to get elite talent is at the top of the draft and then said he knows the Sens probably won't make the playoffs but they are going to try anyways.....so essentially we are sacrificing our future (Mcdavid, eichel, storme) so we can not make the playoffs

Murray has been saying for 2 years we are underperforming - No We Suck - big difference. Admitting we are not close to being a contender is the first step, saying we underperform for 2 NHL season is insanity. We don't have the talent, the talent isn't under performing, it's doing the best it can but it's just not good enough.

We need high end top 3 forwards to help us win, another Jared Cowen or Mika zabinejqd doesn't help this team become a perennial playoff team - we need a game breaker at forward, alsmost every team has one except ottawa.
- tuna99

We do need a gamebreaker up the middle, and if we can trade futures for one, then go for it. I wouldn't trade our 1st, but anything else goes. People have these expectations for Puempel, but if he had 1st line potential, at 21yrs of age, he'd already have a 15 goal season in the NHL. Nick Paul, great kid, won a gold medal, but he's slow. If can they package them with a pair of 2nds for a high end centre - DO IT!

Does anyone have any insight on how far away the following 3 D are from challenging for spots?
Claesson
Englund
Wikstrand
There hasn't been much hipe about any of them this year, so I'm wondering if they've taken a step back in their development.

Does anyone have any insight on how far away the following 3 D are from challenging for spots?
Claesson
Englund
Wikstrand
There hasn't been much hipe about any of them this year, so I'm wondering if they've taken a step back in their development.
- Kayak_kid25

According to Melnyk they are all future superstars so all on track

I honestly believe (and hope) that Sens management realizes you can't keep all these 2nd and 3rd liners around: Zibanejad, Hoffman, Stone, Chiasson, Puempel, Pageau.

They need to trade when the value is high is that always easy? No. But that's what they do for a living; projecting players.

I think everyone should be put on the table (outside Karlsson) and let's see who has value. Hoffman and Stone certainly do. I think Hoffman is not going to score 30 on a regular basis (he's on pace for it now) - I would certainly think about putting him in a package.

Stone is someone I see more as a surprise; much like MacArthur was to me. I believe that his hockey IQ and his instincts are worth keeping around if the return isn't going to be large.

What Murray did by trading Noesen + Silverberg was great. I've been critical of it because I don't want Ryan to hit 30 when this team is contending.

According to Melnyk they are all future superstars so all on track
- tuna99

He's a f***ing delusional piece of ****. Murray can't allow this "rebuild" to be a rebuild for mediocre play

Murray also said he knows ottawa needs a top end offensive talent and the only way to get elite talent is at the top of the draft and then said he knows the Sens probably won't make the playoffs but they are going to try anyways.....so essentially we are sacrificing our future (Mcdavid, eichel, storme) so we can not make the playoffs

Murray has been saying for 2 years we are underperforming - No We Suck - big difference. Admitting we are not close to being a contender is the first step, saying we underperform for 2 NHL season is insanity. We don't have the talent, the talent isn't under performing, it's doing the best it can but it's just not good enough.

We need high end top 3 forwards to help us win, another Jared Cowen or Mika zabinejqd doesn't help this team become a perennial playoff team - we need a game breaker at forward, alsmost every team has one except ottawa.
- tuna99

ya, even Toronto has Kessel .......

He's a f***ing delusional piece of ****. Murray can't allow this "rebuild" to be a rebuild for mediocre play
- AlfieisKing

people in glass houses......

Man if Ottawa looses today Murray needs to SELL SELL SELL!!

people in glass houses......
- SensnRBs

What?

Tell me where Murray went right after Jul 2015. Alfie left. Gonchar left. Making Spezza captain. That right there explains why the team lacks leadership, poise, and the ability to maintain during difficult times of the game.

Then they traded for Ryan - who is a good goal scorer - but he hasn't been elite. Not to mention that the timing makes me think Murray keeps thinking this team is better than it actually is (right now).

Egos need to be put aside here and trades need to happen. The team COULD turn it around quickly if they reload for next year. I'm hoping all this talk about "we can still make the playoffs" and "we're better than we are playing" (which I actually think is true TO A DEGREE) but they better not believe all this stuff or yes it is delusional

Just look at the standings. They speak for themselves

ya, even Toronto has Kessel .......
- SensnRBs

Not for long! (Ottawa bound )

If OTT looses and PHI wins:
1. BUF 2. EDM 3. CAR 4. ARI 5. NJ 6. CBJ 7. OTT

Ottawa can get D Oliver Kylington C Pavel Zacha or D Zack Werenski

Stay away from O'Rielly ...... He won't sign here just run with the core players and get good picks ... Murray needs to get rid of certain players waive,buyouts,trades whatever it takes......greening,Michalek,smith,Neil,Condra,Legwand,Phillips.. need to go .... Patiences is what we need to be doing....bring up the young guys let them run for 2years

mac turris stone
Hoffman zibby ryan
puempel prince lazar
crouse pageau chiasson

methot karlsson
cowen ceci
boro wiercioch
gryba

Because Curtis is 20 as of Feb 2nd could they not send him to the AHL after that date? Much better option if possible

To BOS: Phillips
To OTT: 2nd round pick

To West Team: Neil
To OTT: 2nd round pick + prospect

it can DEF happen (GMs are inquiring)

Edit: they have to waive though

hope sens loose all games except against leafs.... (and maybe habs)

team tank

nvm... let's score 5 tonight!