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black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Jan 19 @ 9:35 PM ET
i'm not going to continue the argument because "what-ifs" don't mean anything but is everyone here telling me that we would be better off with schenn/coots then we would be with weber?

according to some of you the "3rd-line-center- lifer" and schenn "he-who-cannot reach-potential" would be worth having over a legit #1?

im all for keeping both of them and don't think getting rid of either is worth it...unless it was for weber. thats it.

now when you say "+ prospects" i think that changes significantly. if the prospects they want are morin/sanheim then of course that's a no. if it's hagg/cousins i consider it real hard.

we have people here battling each other as to whether keeping schenn or coots will make the team better or if there is something out there that those names can obtain....this conversation ends if the name is weber.

convo over. we aren't getting weber i know. but i have a hard time believing we would suffer THAT much in forward depth when we would be simultaneously anchoring our defense.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 19 @ 9:35 PM ET
I think the over/under for Penguins goals tomorrow is set at 7.5
- ob18


At least the great Dane will be providing a spine to the lineup.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 19 @ 9:40 PM ET
Lots of hockey fans out there happy that the leafs and flyers are swirling in the toilet.

TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jan 19 @ 9:40 PM ET
I kind of wish Hagg was called up. I get the reasoning why he wasn't, but it sure would've added a nice incentive to watch the blowout that is most likely coming tomorrow night.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 19 @ 9:40 PM ET
I don't think the Penguins are any good, they should be able to exploit the Flyers tomorrow night. Draft day is going to be exciting
- PLindbergh31


Well it's something to look forward to anyway
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jan 19 @ 9:40 PM ET
At least the great Dane will be providing a spine to the lineup.
- Just5


I've thought for awhile now the disparity between Grossman and Lauridsen is pretty small. I've said this on these boards a few times, and understand why most disagree. I'm excited to see how he does with his second cup of NHL coffee, assuming he gets to play.

Oli' has a (frank)ing cannon. Clapbombs all day says I.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jan 19 @ 9:41 PM ET
so now what

black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Jan 19 @ 9:41 PM ET
Long term, it would probably have looked a bit like the Lindros trade. Basically just hand the Cup to Nashville with all the players/picks they would have gotten out of it.
- Tomahawk


if we are going by current production i don't think schenn/coots changes everything for nashville.

it certainly makes the flyers better. i like schenn and coots, trust me. but given what #1 d-men are worth these days, especially a guy like weber- thats a deal i would have made in hindsight. since that potential deal i'd say those two have gone down in value- not a whole lot but enough where nashville could rightfully up the stakes...

again this is hindsight- we didn't want to trade both because we all had these unrealistic expectations for those two. at least we knew what we would have gotten with weber
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 19 @ 9:43 PM ET
I kind of wish Hagg was called up. I get the reasoning why he wasn't, but it sure would've added a nice incentive to watch the blowout that is most likely coming tomorrow night.
- TobyFlenderson

Give it one more month of poopty play then I think you'll start seeing some kids getting some looks with big club.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 19 @ 9:43 PM ET
I kind of wish Hagg was called up. I get the reasoning why he wasn't, but it sure would've added a nice incentive to watch the blowout that is most likely coming tomorrow night.
- TobyFlenderson


Nothing good would come of calling up Hagg. He's simply not ready for NHL play.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 19 @ 9:44 PM ET
so now what
- Winning

Keep calm and trade everyone.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jan 19 @ 9:45 PM ET
Keep calm and trade everyone.
- hereticpride

just lose more than one in a row.
MCdavid damnit
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 19 @ 9:46 PM ET
just lose more than one in a row.
MCdavid damnit

- Winning


If the Flyers get McDavid, what will you do?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 19 @ 9:47 PM ET
If the Flyers get McDavid, what will you do?
- PhillySportsGuy


Complain his jersey order request is on back order?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 19 @ 9:47 PM ET
I agree waffles would have been a much better choice
- ob18

this made me smile
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 19 @ 9:47 PM ET
any chance you can get nabokov back in there?
- stayinthefnnet

No thank you, I think I've done enough suffering over the last two decades
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 19 @ 9:47 PM ET
If the Flyers get McDavid, what will you do?
- PhillySportsGuy

This could be a segment they do on the jumbotron during stopages.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jan 19 @ 9:47 PM ET
If the Flyers get McDavid, what will you do?
- PhillySportsGuy

post a video of me running around naked through the streets of philadelphia in a macdavid jersey
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jan 19 @ 9:48 PM ET
Give it one more month of poopty play then I think you'll start seeing some kids getting some looks with big club.
- hereticpride

I agree with you there. I doubt Hagg ever sees NHL ice given the slide rule and all, but I could see maybe Cousins or Leier getting a spot start. Though Gordon and Akeson probably get called up before them two.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 19 @ 9:49 PM ET
this made me smile
- Marc D


You are welcome.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 19 @ 9:49 PM ET
if we are going by current production i don't think schenn/coots changes everything for nashville.

it certainly makes the flyers better. i like schenn and coots, trust me. but given what #1 d-men are worth these days, especially a guy like weber- thats a deal i would have made in hindsight. since that potential deal i'd say those two have gone down in value- not a whole lot but enough where nashville could rightfully up the stakes...

again this is hindsight- we didn't want to trade both because we all had these unrealistic expectations for those two. at least we knew what we would have gotten with weber

- black_francis


What if it had been Jake and/or Simmer in the deal instead?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 19 @ 9:49 PM ET
post a video of me running around naked through the streets of philadelphia in a macdavid jersey
- Winning

that's not naked
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 19 @ 9:49 PM ET
Complain his jersey order request is on back order?
- ob18

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 19 @ 9:49 PM ET
post a video of me running around naked through the streets of philadelphia in a macdavid jersey
- Winning


Be sure to put your hoodie on
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jan 19 @ 9:50 PM ET
Nothing good would come of calling up Hagg. He's simply not ready for NHL play.
- PhillySportsGuy

No doubt about that. Just would've been nice to see him play since I don't see much of the Phantoms and only caught a few of his WJC games. But dropping him into the lineup against the Pens with a Phantoms game on Wednesday would've been weird.
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