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Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jan 18 @ 10:54 PM ET
Keeps us young


Take notes

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Gotta enjoy life while your here
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 18 @ 11:06 PM ET
I graduated from HS the year before.

50 on wednesday

- cabin


Turning 50 is only a problem for weaklings.

Grab 50 one cheek in either hand and (frank) the poop out of it!!
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Jan 18 @ 11:10 PM ET
15 out of 16
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jan 19 @ 3:38 AM ET
I get that this team is epically bad, but how can they outplay a team like Detroit for the whole 1st period and then look like a USHL team the next two periods?
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 19 @ 7:10 AM ET
I get that this team is epically bad, but how can they outplay a team like Detroit for the whole 1st period and then look like a USHL team the next two periods?
- Pierceme69


Not sure why this would be surprising. After all, they pulled it together for a ten game stretch earlier in the year.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jan 19 @ 7:39 AM ET
I get that this team is epically bad, but how can they outplay a team like Detroit for the whole 1st period and then look like a USHL team the next two periods?
- Pierceme69

i dont think it was all buffalo on that. Detroit played much better in the 2nd and 3rd.. they looked out of it in the first.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 19 @ 7:47 AM ET
I get that this team is epically bad, but how can they outplay a team like Detroit for the whole 1st period and then look like a USHL team the next two periods?
- Pierceme69


2/3rds of the team are AHL caliber talent.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 19 @ 7:55 AM ET
The articles about us tanking really are ridiculous. What were we supposed to do? Our core stunk so we traded them for picks and players. Re-tooling on the fly doesn't work unless you have a strong core. I don't feel at all embarassed about what we've done.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 19 @ 8:15 AM ET
The articles about us tanking really are ridiculous. What were we supposed to do? Our core stunk so we traded them for picks and players. Re-tooling on the fly doesn't work unless you have a strong core. I don't feel at all embarassed about what we've done.
- Slump Buster



The core problem with a lot of the anti tankers(doesn't apply to everyone) that stand on a pedestal of pride like Harrington is that they tell you everything that's wrong with tanking but offer no valid solution. And I don't mean valid on a subjective level (i.e difference of opinion on how to build), i mean they generally don't have an answer.

Conversation goes something like. "what a disgrace on-purposely tanking and breeding a losing culture...something something OILERS (because it always turns into something about the oilers)

But then when you ask them what they would do about acquiring high end talent to build a cup competitive team the conversation usually yields one of of two responses

a) "Not my problem, Good Gm's figure out a way" (hello, he just did).
b) "But edmonton!!!!"

My favourite quote on this matter: "There’s nothing wrong with wanting a franchise player. There’s a lot wrong with disgracing the brand in the process to get one."

As oppose to the juggernaut the brand was before they began the tank? The whole point in getting the franchise player is to rebuild the brand....as a winner. How is it the person who constantly berates the leafs for being a joke for continuing to promote mediocrity can sit there with a straight face and say what the sabres are trying to do is a disgrace. These are the same people who lambasted this organization for constantly hovering on that 8th-10th line during the Regier/Golisano years.

You know what's more disgraceful than tanking for one guy? Doing just enough to give fans false hope to turn profits.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 19 @ 8:17 AM ET
If Nolan wants out of hockey, h'd fit right in on the packers coaching staff
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 19 @ 8:19 AM ET
The core problem with a lot of the anti tankers(doesn't apply to everyone) that stand on a pedestal of pride like Harrington is that they tell you everything that's wrong with tanking but offer no valid solution. And I don't mean valid on a subjective level (i.e difference of opinion on how to build), i mean they generally don't have an answer.

Conversation goes something like. "what a disgrace on-purposely tanking and breeding a losing culture...something something OILERS (because it always turns into something about the oilers)

But then when you ask them what they would do about acquiring high end talent to build a cup competitive team the conversation usually yields one of of two responses

a) "Not my problem, Good Gm's figure out a way" (hello, he just did).
b) "But edmonton!!!!"

My favourite quote on this matter: "There’s nothing wrong with wanting a franchise player. There’s a lot wrong with disgracing the brand in the process to get one."

As oppose to the juggernaut the brand was before they began the tank? The whole point in getting the franchise player is to rebuild the brand....as a winner. How is it the person who constantly berates the leafs for being a joke for continuing to promote mediocrity can sit there with a straight face and say what the sabres are trying to do is a disgrace. These are the same people who lambasted this organization for constantly hovering on that 8th-10th line during the Regier/Golisano years.

You know what's more disgraceful than tanking for one guy? Doing just enough to give fans false hope to turn profits.

- Sabresfan-365



You're dead on with all of that. The other one that drives me crazy is "how many McDavids would it take to fix this team". Given that we are stocked with prospects (including an elite center) and will have at least two other first rounders in the next draft the answer is "one". Like you I would much rather go this route than watch games of the "competitive" 2010 team.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 19 @ 8:23 AM ET
gringo had 7 points on the 3 game road trip
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 19 @ 8:25 AM ET
You're dead on with all of that. The other one that drives me crazy is "how many McDavids would it take to fix this team". Given that we are stocked with prospects (including an elite center) and will have at least two other first rounders in the next draft the answer is "one". Like you I would much rather go this route than watch games of the "competitive" 2010 team.
- Slump Buster



Agreed, as if implying the sabres will just stop making moves entirely post 2015 draft.
homiedclown
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Jan 19 @ 8:25 AM ET
homiedclown
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Jan 19 @ 8:27 AM ET
homiedclown
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Jan 19 @ 8:39 AM ET


how the hell did he fall to the third rd
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Jan 19 @ 8:47 AM ET


how the hell did he fall to the third rd

- homiedclown


Like Martin, looks like McCabe.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 19 @ 8:47 AM ET


how the hell did he fall to the third rd

- homiedclown


He's a project, still lot's of holes in his game and you wonder if he can bring it at the nhl level.


That being said i really liked the pick, pretty good skater and he's got offensive upside.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 19 @ 8:49 AM ET
He's a project, still lot's of holes in his game and you wonder if he can bring it at the nhl level.


That being said i really liked the pick, pretty good skater and he's got offensive upside.

- Sabresfan-365

poor man's Karlsson?
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 19 @ 8:49 AM ET
He's a project, still lot's of holes in his game and you wonder if he can bring it at the nhl level.


That being said i really liked the pick, pretty good skater and he's got offensive upside.

- Sabresfan-365


That's what I like about Uncle Terry's position. At this point we need quality over quantity so he had the luxury of being able to shoot for the stars with high-ceiling guys like Martin. Most won't work out but some might work out in a big way.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jan 19 @ 8:53 AM ET
The core problem with a lot of the anti tankers(doesn't apply to everyone) that stand on a pedestal of pride like Harrington is that they tell you everything that's wrong with tanking but offer no valid solution. And I don't mean valid on a subjective level (i.e difference of opinion on how to build), i mean they generally don't have an answer.

Conversation goes something like. "what a disgrace on-purposely tanking and breeding a losing culture...something something OILERS (because it always turns into something about the oilers)

But then when you ask them what they would do about acquiring high end talent to build a cup competitive team the conversation usually yields one of of two responses

a) "Not my problem, Good Gm's figure out a way" (hello, he just did).
b) "But edmonton!!!!"

My favourite quote on this matter: "There’s nothing wrong with wanting a franchise player. There’s a lot wrong with disgracing the brand in the process to get one."

As oppose to the juggernaut the brand was before they began the tank? The whole point in getting the franchise player is to rebuild the brand....as a winner. How is it the person who constantly berates the leafs for being a joke for continuing to promote mediocrity can sit there with a straight face and say what the sabres are trying to do is a disgrace. These are the same people who lambasted this organization for constantly hovering on that 8th-10th line during the Regier/Golisano years.

You know what's more disgraceful than tanking for one guy? Doing just enough to give fans false hope to turn profits.

- Sabresfan-365


Very well said .


BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Jan 19 @ 8:56 AM ET
And it keeps getting better

Have 4 parties this week. All combos with friends .

Older crowd knows how to throw a party.

- cabin

I am going to try getting to one of them.

My grandson Anth age has a 5 in his age as well this week.
Lot of set up for a 5 year olds birthday, I am getting so old myself that I forgot how much. My youngest of our 6 is going to be 16.

<---Old guy.

Talk to you soon.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 19 @ 9:02 AM ET
poor man's Karlsson?
- homiedclown



In the offensive end yea i could see that, a lot of similar traits. I think Irish's comaprison of McCabe is a pretty good one too. I'd just say that McCabe is a little more "polished" if that makes any sense?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 19 @ 9:04 AM ET
That's what I like about Uncle Terry's position. At this point we need quality over quantity so he had the luxury of being able to shoot for the stars with high-ceiling guys like Martin. Most won't work out but some might work out in a big way.
- Slump Buster



I agree, but it does raise some questions about choosing lemieux with pick 31, which kinda screams safe pick. on the other hand (it has been mentioned here before) if he can be anything close to what his dad was it's probably a pretty good pick.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 19 @ 9:05 AM ET
The core problem with a lot of the anti tankers(doesn't apply to everyone) that stand on a pedestal of pride like Harrington is that they tell you everything that's wrong with tanking but offer no valid solution. And I don't mean valid on a subjective level (i.e difference of opinion on how to build), i mean they generally don't have an answer.

Conversation goes something like. "what a disgrace on-purposely tanking and breeding a losing culture...something something OILERS (because it always turns into something about the oilers)

But then when you ask them what they would do about acquiring high end talent to build a cup competitive team the conversation usually yields one of of two responses

a) "Not my problem, Good Gm's figure out a way" (hello, he just did).
b) "But edmonton!!!!"

My favourite quote on this matter: "There’s nothing wrong with wanting a franchise player. There’s a lot wrong with disgracing the brand in the process to get one."

As oppose to the juggernaut the brand was before they began the tank? The whole point in getting the franchise player is to rebuild the brand....as a winner. How is it the person who constantly berates the leafs for being a joke for continuing to promote mediocrity can sit there with a straight face and say what the sabres are trying to do is a disgrace. These are the same people who lambasted this organization for constantly hovering on that 8th-10th line during the Regier/Golisano years.

You know what's more disgraceful than tanking for one guy? Doing just enough to give fans false hope to turn profits.

- Sabresfan-365


Like it or not, Darcy Regier put this team in a position where tanking was really the only option. Not doing that puts this team ridiculously far from championship contention for at least a decade. That doesn't make the current route a guarantee, but it is the highest chance of success given the state of the team, and that started about 2 or 3 years ago. This team needs a player to build around badly. The draft is by far the best way to get one in the league's current climate.
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