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SuperCat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 11.20.2006

Jan 18 @ 12:27 PM ET
I also don't think Reinhart makes just any player elite.

It's easy to see that while Reinhart & Domi are both extremely talented, they are also very different players in terms of style.

Reinhart is the heady & graceful play maker. He needs an explosive & dynamic finisher like Domi, to maximize his passing skills in exploiting the opponent.


With a clean slate to build upon, I really don't know why TM wouldn't at least kick the tires on a guy like Max Domi. He has routinely mentioned swapping a few picks for a more NHL ready player.


Reinhart/McDavid/Domi would be an amazing sight for the sore eyes in WNY.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Jan 18 @ 12:30 PM ET
It isn't so much the losing that is bad...it is the way guys in the locker room deal with it .. Check out, do what they want cause there is zero hope, reduce the compete cause they don't think it will help such a crappy talentless team, in-fighting .
Those are the negatives...not the fact you lost 10 in a row.

- IonSabres


Infighting can ruin a good team and keep it from its goals. In the situation I think that kind of passion would actually be a good thing.

The only thing I could compare it to is I've worked for companies before that were going under. They were like the Titanic with 3 inches of water on the deck. People were just coming into work and mailing it in. In some cases it went on for over a year. No management, no oversight, no expectations. You get lazy, you get complacent. It affects everyone.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Jan 18 @ 12:32 PM ET
That's not Hardhat. It can't be. That man looks nothing like the picture he posted.
- buffalofan19

Still fantasizing aye?
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Jan 18 @ 12:39 PM ET
AWESOME!
- Studj8





Thanks.

Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Jan 18 @ 12:42 PM ET
Risto and Zads allowed two goals from the Philly 4th line last night.

They are years away (Zadorov more than Risto) from being a legit top oair

- sbroads24


There was also 3 forwards and a goalie on the ice! These are kids, need to relax with these 2.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 18 @ 12:50 PM ET
There was also 3 forwards and a goalie on the ice! These are kids, need to relax with these 2.
- Irish 14

I'm relaxed. That's my point though, they are kids, not top pairing NHL defensemen nor even close to them.

Zadorov is always going to have people shaking their heads and wanting more, it's how he's always been.
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Jan 18 @ 12:51 PM ET
Risto and Zads allowed two goals from the Philly 4th line last night.

They are years away (Zadorov more than Risto) from being a legit top oair

- sbroads24



Risto and Zads allowed two goals?

I thought we had someone in net, too, plus maybe three forwards?

Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Jan 18 @ 12:52 PM ET
I'm relaxed. That's my point though, they are kids, not top pairing NHL defensemen nor even close to them.

Zadorov is always going to have people shaking their heads and wanting more, it's how he's always been.

- sbroads24


Doesn't sound like you are relaxed! You have given Myers 4/5 years and Zadorov 3 months!

Oh boy!
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jan 18 @ 12:54 PM ET
Building a dynamic scoring line obviously includes McEichel.

Yes, you are finishing in last place. And you're trading off the like Enroth & Myers if that's what nessicary to do so. This is all required in the name of "building" and elite scoring line.


So now you've got a McEichel & a Sam Reinhart... Are you going to use them as 1/2 centers, or are you gonna play them on the same line with another elite player (yet to be found)?

Girgensons/Ennis/Moulson looks like a line I'd like to keep togeather, so I'd just assume put Reinhart with McDavid and whomever (maybe Grigorenko?).

- SuperCat


You don't need to sacrifice a defensive core to build an "elite scoring line" meaning there is no reason to be trading Myers. He along with Zads and Risto are apart of that defensive core. Girgensons, Reinhart and McEichel are all talented enough that you can throw average to above average wingers on their line and have scoring depth. I'm not trading Myers for Hall just because I want to give McDavid an 80 point winger...LA and Boston don't have "elite" wingers and do/did just fine.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jan 18 @ 12:56 PM ET
You don't need to sacrifice a defensive core to build an "elite scoring line" meaning there is no reason to be trading Myers. He along with Zads and Risto are apart of that defensive core. Girgensons, Reinhart and McEichel are all talented enough that you can throw average to above average wingers on their line and have scoring depth. I'm not trading Myers for Hall just because I want to give McDavid an 80 point winger...LA and Boston don't have "elite" wingers and do/did just fine.
- theblueandgold

Quit making sense.
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jan 18 @ 12:59 PM ET
Doesn't sound like you are relaxed! You have given Myers 4/5 years and Zadorov 3 months!

Oh boy!

- Irish 14


I kinda laughed too. 3 months and Zadorov is set in stone as a player, people will always want more, but Myers still has potential baby!!!
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 18 @ 1:02 PM ET
Doesn't sound like you are relaxed! You have given Myers 4/5 years and Zadorov 3 months!

Oh boy!

- Irish 14

I don't blame them for making mistakes. My point is that they are too young to be announced as the next top pairing of the Buffalo Sabres.

Zadorov was inconsistent in juniors, made great plays followed up by dumb ones. There is a reason 4 other defensemen were taken ahead of him and if it wasn't for the KHL he would still be in juniors.

Honest question, what has he actually done to cement a spot on the top pair for the next decade
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 18 @ 1:04 PM ET
I kinda laughed too. 3 months and Zadorov is set in stone as a player, people will always want more, but Myers still has potential baby!!!
- Cheeseballin

Myers has actually produced at the NHL level. Zadorov has not.

If anything, Zadorov is the one who's banking on potential
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jan 18 @ 1:06 PM ET
Myers has actually produced at the NHL level. Zadorov has not.

If anything, Zadorov is the one who's banking on potential

- sbroads24


Yes your makign it sound like Zadorov is never going to improve on his mistakes and people will always want more from him. Who is to say he can't develop into a top pairing guy? Still too early to tell.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Jan 18 @ 1:07 PM ET
I can't wait till Myers is off this team so we can at least talk about someone else.

Holy fcuk!

EDIT: I have never seen an average dman talked of so much.

Again holy fcuk!
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 18 @ 1:08 PM ET
Yes your makign it sound like Zadorov is never going to improve on his mistakes and people will always want more from him. Who is to say he can't develop into a top pairing guy? Still too early to tell.
- Cheeseballin



I think that's his main point, they still have a lot of growing to do.
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jan 18 @ 1:08 PM ET
I can't wait till Myers is off this team so we can at least talk about someone else.

Holy fcuk!

- BuffaloHardHat


Myers is not leaving this team for a while, get used to it.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Jan 18 @ 1:08 PM ET
Myers is not leaving this team for a while, get used to it.
- Cheeseballin

Comedy , pure comedy.

Says who, you?
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jan 18 @ 1:09 PM ET
Comedy , pure comedy.

Says who, you?

- BuffaloHardHat


Says Tim Murray GM of the Buffalo Sabres. Do your homework.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Jan 18 @ 1:11 PM ET
I just know when I come here I need to be listening to my Irish Heritage music (Secret Garden).
The serenity and calmness of every note at least keeps my passionate ass half civil here.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Jan 18 @ 1:12 PM ET
Says Tim Murray GM of the Buffalo Sabres. Do your homework.
- Cheeseballin

And you believe that right?

You are precious and special indeed.
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Jan 18 @ 1:12 PM ET
I don't blame them for making mistakes. My point is that they are too young to be announced as the next top pairing of the Buffalo Sabres.

Zadorov was inconsistent in juniors, made great plays followed up by dumb ones. There is a reason 4 other defensemen were taken ahead of him and if it wasn't for the KHL he would still be in juniors.

Honest question, what has he actually done to cement a spot on the top pair for the next decade

- sbroads24


To early to say anything, my point!
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 18 @ 1:12 PM ET
Yes your makign it sound like Zadorov is never going to improve on his mistakes and people will always want more from him. Who is to say he can't develop into a top pairing guy? Still too early to tell.
- Cheeseballin

Jesus that's my entire point... too early to tell.

I responded to a poster claiming they were locked in as our top pair, I don't think that's set in stone at all. Zads wouldn't even be here if he weren't singed to a KHL contract
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 18 @ 1:13 PM ET
To early to say anything, my point!
- Irish 14

THAT'S MINE TOO!!!!

Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jan 18 @ 1:13 PM ET
And you believe that right?

You are precious and special indeed.

- BuffaloHardHat


Thank you my friend!, I believe him yes.
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