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hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Jan 19 @ 10:13 AM ET
Honestly HCMJ has not helped by shuffling the lines on a weekly basis. There's still two injured forwards, but it's time to piece together some lines with their spots held by placeholdlers.

That's the issue with 191 man games lost. It's not just the guys missing, it's the lack of continuity. Crosby and Perron are playing well together but their on-ice communication and interplay are bound to improve. Malkin has had a revolving door of wingers. Sutter has been up and down the lineup with a rotation of wingers coming through.

It's time to build cohesion. Perron/Crosby/Hornqvist, Kunitz/Malkin/Comeau, Bennett/Sutter/Downie, Spaling/Goc/Adams are hopefully coming soon. In the meantime, get that third line back together, and let Arcobello and Rust be placeholders on the top two lines for now, so that 72 and 17 can just be plugged in on their return, on lines with centers that they've gelled with already.
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Jan 19 @ 10:15 AM ET
After seeing Maatta's reinjury... Pouliot might flat out be over cautious, whether intentional or not, regarding his shoulder. Nothing he can really do about it if its become a subconscious thing, that'll just fade over a bit more time.
- Guile


Yeah that's what I was thinking. He never even cleared out the front of the net, just kind of sat and watched play
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 19 @ 10:16 AM ET
Yeah that's what I was thinking. He never even cleared out the front of the net, just kind of sat and watched play
- znagle



I know I did the same with a twisted ankle for the months after it was better. Still kept favoring the other leg (which was the non dominant one), till it got sore and I needed 2 days off it completely.
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Jan 19 @ 10:18 AM ET
Who do you want for a 4C? Ryan Kessler?
- sammy87


No, just someone who plays hard and can bring some energy while still being able to chip in occasionally. Just someone plays like their future depends on it, like Farnham
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Jan 19 @ 10:19 AM ET
I know I did the same with a twisted ankle for the months after it was better. Still kept favoring the other leg (which was the non dominant one), till it got sore and I needed 2 days off it completely.
- Guile


Yeah and this one was a serious injury at that
87_71_11_29
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: In a van down by the river, PA
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 19 @ 10:25 AM ET
The condescending tone of your " our D is so deep ", comment annoyed me. You guys got some bounces and beat us convincingly; end of story.

Coming around to tell us your a superior team because of your defensive depth, chaps my ass.

Your captain got absolutely smoked 5 or 6 times yesterday after noon, the NBC broadcast finally called attention to it when they commented about Moore saving McD, when he was totally blown away. So take your other worldly defensive depth, summon Mrs. St.Louis; and get ready for a playoff match up with us that wont end as nicely for you as it did using her magical powers.

F Sutter

- nbartley9

Damn, UFB's being lobbed! I love it...
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Jan 19 @ 10:27 AM ET
Yeah that's what I was thinking. He never even cleared out the front of the net, just kind of sat and watched play
- znagle


The Penguins' system does not encourage clearing out the front of the net. The idea is that the goalie has a better chance at a one guy screen than a two guy screen.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 19 @ 10:29 AM ET
The Penguins' system does not encourage clearing out the front of the net. The idea is that the goalie has a better chance at a one guy screen than a two guy screen.
- hardnosed



Well, I don't mind that idea. I know there were a handful of goals that went in while Orpik was slamming a person out front in front, creating a 2 person screen for a second.
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Jan 19 @ 10:34 AM ET
The Penguins' system does not encourage clearing out the front of the net. The idea is that the goalie has a better chance at a one guy screen than a two guy screen.
- hardnosed


Until the puck gets deflected on a tip or a rebound is banged home. I've noticed no fight at times for rebounds, just glares. No stick lifts or body taking
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 19 @ 10:34 AM ET
Until he has a Cup, he can never have that title.


You have 7 less GA than we do, not that impressive.

- nbartley9



Completely disagree with that. Just because he doesn't have a cup does NOT mean he isn't the best goalie in the world. Hank is the best goalie in the world/NHL, and that's that.
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Jan 19 @ 10:36 AM ET
Completely disagree with that. Just because he doesn't have a cup does NOT mean he isn't the best goalie in the world. Hank is the best goalie in the world/NHL, and that's that.
- j.boyd919


Agreed. 71 percent of the world is covered by water. The rest? Hank
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Jan 19 @ 10:38 AM ET
Agreed. 71 percent of the world is covered by water. The rest? Hank
- znagle


Funny thing is, the Penguins used to have his number before last year. But he's been a brick wall in the last 15 or so meetings.
simethos
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 05.02.2007

Jan 19 @ 10:39 AM ET
I know they experiment with Spaling, Downie, and even Sutter on Malkin's line, but how come they never tried inserting Goc into that line? I think he's a decent, under valued player, and I think he's creative enough to play with the likes of Geno. Much more than Spaling is. He could even center the 2nd line, putting Malkin on the wing.

With the way they're playing lately (losing HARD to two division rivals!), I think they need to consider some kind of a change. Even slight line adjustments. I know I'd like to see Goc used better. I'd also like to see Adams sit his ass down for a change. Farnham needs to be brought back. I loved that guy's energy. Reminds me of Talbot when he was first up with Pittsburgh. The kid's got heart, and God knows this team needs it. I find myself saying over and over and over again: "I miss Dupuis so goddamn bad!"
all-pgh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 05.14.2014

Jan 19 @ 10:40 AM ET
Agreed. 71 percent of the world is covered by water. The rest? Hank
- znagle

My fave

Jesus saves! Mario gets the rebound, he shoots, he scoresssssss!!!!
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Jan 19 @ 10:40 AM ET
Funny thing is, the Penguins used to have his number before last year. But he's been a brick wall in the last 15 or so meetings.
- hardnosed


Yeah, the team around Hank has improved a lot as well. He isn't left out to dry as much anymore. Plus the fact we can't do anything within our division. If we lose to the Flyers tomorrow
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Jan 19 @ 10:44 AM ET
My fave

Jesus saves! Mario gets the rebound, he shoots, he scoresssssss!!!!

- all-pgh


usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jan 19 @ 10:50 AM ET
Funny thing is, the Penguins used to have his number before last year. But he's been a brick wall in the last 15 or so meetings.
- hardnosed

Better puck support than in Torts system has to be the case. These Rangers don't sit back, they are actually fun to watch.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Jan 19 @ 10:50 AM ET
I know they experiment with Spaling, Downie, and even Sutter on Malkin's line, but how come they never tried inserting Goc into that line? I think he's a decent, under valued player, and I think he's creative enough to play with the likes of Geno. Much more than Spaling is. He could even center the 2nd line, putting Malkin on the wing.

With the way they're playing lately (losing HARD to two division rivals!), I think they need to consider some kind of a change. Even slight line adjustments. I know I'd like to see Goc used better. I'd also like to see Adams sit his ass down for a change. Farnham needs to be brought back. I loved that guy's energy. Reminds me of Talbot when he was first up with Pittsburgh. The kid's got heart, and God knows this team needs it. I find myself saying over and over and over again: "I miss Dupuis so goddamn bad!"

- simethos


Spaling is three times the player Goc is. The last way I'd describe Goc is creative.

Spaling's 13 goals last year are more than Goc has scored in any of his 9 seasons.

Spaling gets to the right spots, but sometimes isn't handsy enough to finish.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Jan 19 @ 10:50 AM ET
Completely disagree with that. Just because he doesn't have a cup does NOT mean he isn't the best goalie in the world. Hank is the best goalie in the world/NHL, and that's that.
- j.boyd919

Which I totally respect, I just feel differently .


WWJJD


F Sutter
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Jan 19 @ 10:51 AM ET
Better puck support than in Torts system has to be the case. These Rangers don't sit back, they are actually fun to watch.
- usethe1-2-2


They've also got a lot more speed, more than last year even.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jan 19 @ 10:52 AM ET
I'm not worried. This team is starting to play the right way. They aren't second guessing themselves anymore and reverting back to their old ways. They have a few more months to get things in gear and find that chemistry (along with health).

Sid looks good, Geno looks great for who he has played with so far this season. Loved the Letang and Despres pairing for a bit yesterday. That could be a good one moving forward.

Two games to build off of tomorrow and wednesday. Should be fun.
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Jan 19 @ 10:53 AM ET
I know they experiment with Spaling, Downie, and even Sutter on Malkin's line, but how come they never tried inserting Goc into that line? I think he's a decent, under valued player, and I think he's creative enough to play with the likes of Geno. Much more than Spaling is. He could even center the 2nd line, putting Malkin on the wing.

With the way they're playing lately (losing HARD to two division rivals!), I think they need to consider some kind of a change. Even slight line adjustments. I know I'd like to see Goc used better. I'd also like to see Adams sit his ass down for a change. Farnham needs to be brought back. I loved that guy's energy. Reminds me of Talbot when he was first up with Pittsburgh. The kid's got heart, and God knows this team needs it. I find myself saying over and over and over again: "I miss Dupuis so goddamn bad!"

- simethos


Goc's career high is 30 points and has 6 points in 53 games for us. Putting him any higher than 4c will hurt the team.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jan 19 @ 10:53 AM ET
They've also got a lot more speed, more than last year even.
- hardnosed


I think that is just as much the system as it is the players. No more start and stop, block shots type deal.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jan 19 @ 10:55 AM ET
Our third will be much better when Hornqvist and Comeau are back. But I agree we need a 4th line that can bring energy at the very least, guys like Farnham. Adams, Sill, Ebbet and Goc should never sniff NHL ice time again... but we all know they will
- znagle


I like what Farnham brings but he is a short stint/ small shelf life kind of guy. I would call him up during the postseason to wreak havoc...otherwise, he's going to get abused and worn down during the regular season....just my two cents
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 19 @ 10:56 AM ET
Spaling is three times the player Goc is. The last way I'd describe Goc is creative.

Spaling's 13 goals last year are more than Goc has scored in any of his 9 seasons.

Spaling gets to the right spots, but sometimes isn't handsy enough to finish.

- hardnosed



True or not, they have tried everyone else up there except Goc and Adams... why the hell not try a game or two?

HCMJ is pretty realistic... we are making the playoffs, lets see how everyone works with everyone else if we need it come playoff times.
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