And Pat Boutette, Michel Dion, Pat Price, Gary Rissling...
- Emperor Filonius

Rissling was a nut case.
I remember being at the game when Michel Dion got a puck right between the eyes. He fell straight back, but still finished the period. The masks back in those days didn't help much, but without it .he may have been killed.

- Cptmjl

What's a fact is that Boychuk is a great defenseman and all the talk about him being nothing more than a 2nd pairing guy that was successful only because he played in Bostons system was false. He's a top pairing guy and a premier shutdown defenseman. He is gonna get paid.

Yes...like the NYR dude said, "Heard the same poop regarding Vanek last year." So yes, I was talking about Vanek. With respect to Boychuk, it's called a comparison. It's when you take one situation (Vanek last year) and then compare it to a similar situation (Boychuk this year). Reading comprehension: Get into it.
- jmatchett383

Except nobody heard any such thing about Vanek where as a few of us have heard the same thing boychuk. That was my point. So its acutally not a really good comparison

never a difference maker, if he ever were to play in a big game im not sure hed deliver, hes just an easy guy to play against, all the skill and talent offensively but like I said little to no heart and currently very expensive
- JLT168

The dude got hammered the night before an Olympic hockey game.

never a difference maker, if he ever were to play in a big game im not sure hed deliver, hes just an easy guy to play against, all the skill and talent offensively but like I said little to no heart and currently very expensive
- JLT168

If you wanna talk about "big games" just look at him in the ECF last year. No goals, 2 assists, 7 shots on goal, and a -4 in 6 games.

The dude got hammered the night before an Olympic hockey game.
- rangerdanger94

So you're saying he's plays a Canadian style of hockey?

I think we all just need to wait and see. Wtf is the point of arguing over who's brother tweeted what and what houses sold where? Until boychuk signs he's a pending ufa and while there are hints here or there it's not official until it's official.
- rangerdanger94

Agreed so why start it up in the first place?

It's somewhere in between. He's not as offensive as Martin, but he is more mobile and is MUCH better with the puck than Orpik was.
- jmatchett383

Fair enough. I think staals inconsistent possession stats have a lot to do with his eye injury and concussion. Both those dips in the chart happened during those 2 injuries.

Agreed so why start it up in the first place?
- Vukota

Corsi

It's somewhere in between. He's not as offensive as Martin, but he is more mobile and is MUCH better with the puck than Orpik was.
- jmatchett383

I didnt love brooksy, though im probably still biased, I think staal is basically a bigger version of orpik, neither of them have offensive skill, although both can make the breakout pass, staal does seem to go into the offesnive zone occasionally where brooksy never would unless it was a quick pinch...orpik used to go for the bigger hits which sometimes took him out of the play, I dont really recall seeing stall do that, but I think brooks is the better skater...

similiar to martin as well...both bigger guys, he certainly is more physical then martin, but not as physical as brooks was in his prime...out of those 3, id probably rank martin and staal pretty close and brooks behind them both, but id say staal is more like a combination of the both of them, martin has very little offensive upside...besides making good passes

I didnt love brooksy, though im probably still biased, I think staal is basically a bigger version of orpik, neither of them have offensive skill, although both can make the breakout pass, staal does seem to go into the offesnive zone occasionally where brooksy never would unless it was a quick pinch...orpik used to go for the bigger hits which sometimes took him out of the play, I dont really recall seeing stall do that, but I think brooks is the better skater...

similiar to martin as well...both bigger guys, he certainly is more physical then martin, but not as physical as brooks was in his prime...out of those 3, id probably rank martin and staal pretty close and brooks behind them both, but id say staal is more like a combination of the both of them, martin has very little offensive upside...besides making good passes
- JLT168

What's a fact is that Boychuk is a great defenseman and all the talk about him being nothing more than a 2nd pairing guy that was successful only because he played in Bostons system was false. He's a top pairing guy and a premier shutdown defenseman. He is gonna get paid.
- rangerdanger94

I don't think I'd call him a top pairing defenseman or a "premier' shutdown defenseman. Well, actually, I think that he can play on a legit top pair, but he'd never be an anchor. Would be a fantastic compliment. Also, I think he's a very good shutdown defenseman, but not "premier."

Then again, he's better than any defenseman the Flyers have.

The dude got hammered the night before an Olympic hockey game.
- rangerdanger94

oh yea I forgot about that, so to add tomy previous comments not only does he have no heart, hes also got no pride

however martin nor staal have this
crazy eyes


vs goofy


staal just looks ordinary

oh yea I forgot about that, so to add tomy previous comments not only does he have no heart, hes also got no pride
- JLT168

What do you think the entire Canadian team of the 1972 Summit Series was doing every other night?

however martin nor staal have this


- JLT168

He looks like he's either:

a) poopting his pants
b) Watching someone get mauled by a bear
c) Strung out on coke

Then again, since the 3 aren't mutually independent, it could be a combo.

Heard the same poop regarding Vanek last year
- rangerdanger94

Ur clueless as usual....

What's a fact is that Boychuk is a great defenseman and all the talk about him being nothing more than a 2nd pairing guy that was successful only because he played in Bostons system was false. He's a top pairing guy and a premier shutdown defenseman. He is gonna get paid.
- rangerdanger94

He's also got a wicked shot and is great on the PP.

I don't think I'd call him a top pairing defenseman or a "premier' shutdown defenseman. Well, actually, I think that he can play on a legit top pair, but he'd never be an anchor. Would be a fantastic compliment. Also, I think he's a very good shutdown defenseman, but not "premier."

Then again, he's better than any defenseman the Flyers have.
- jmatchett383

He's a top pairing on our team and rightfully so.

What do you think the entire Canadian team of the 1972 Summit Series was doing every other night?
- jmatchett383

what do you think everyone was doing in the 70s? getting hammered and blowing blow

He's a top pairing on our team and rightfully so.
- Cptmjl

Absolutely. And he'd be even more so one for the Flyers. But put him on, say, Chicago, and he's a 2nd pair guy. Or LA, or St. Louis, etc. But yes, on any team that doesn't have those 2 top-pairing guys, he's at least a good top-pair compliment.

what do you think everyone was doing in the 70s? getting hammered and blowing blow
- JLT168

Maybe Vanek's just stuck in the wrong decade.

Absolutely. And he'd be even more so one for the Flyers. But put him on, say, Chicago, and he's a 2nd pair guy. Or LA, or St. Louis, etc. But yes, on any team that doesn't have those 2 top-pairing guys, he's at least a good top-pair compliment.
- jmatchett383

Yeah. I wouldn't say he's an elite top pairing defenseman but there's not many of them around. I would say he's a top pairing D man none the less. There's not enough Doughtys and Webers around to make it a viable debate really. I will say I'm extremely happy to have him as our top pairing he's excellent in just about every situation and he was extremely underrated coming over which most of us suspected bcs of his role on the Bruins.



His shot on the PP alone has been tremendous for us without even touching on his physicality and shut down capabilities. Guy is awesome.

I think the Staal contract is closer to Paul Martin 2.0 than Brooks Orpik 2.0.
- rangerdanger94

As long as its not Jeff Finger 2.0, you should be OK.

As long as its not Jeff Finger 2.0, you should be OK.
- Emperor Filonius

That already happened. His name is Andrew MacDonald.