if the Flyers can get that kind of a haul for Streit they should jump on it. By the time this team is contending, Streit may be eligible for Social Security.
- PLindbergh31

Agreed. If they got an offer like that they would have to do a deal. Its a no brainer.

Agreed. If they got an offer like that they would have to do a deal. Its a no brainer.
- MBFlyerfan

Absolutely. I have no complaints with Streit. He's been very good. But he's not a young player. First round pick and prospect.... Where do I sign up!?

Streit is worth a 1st and a good prospect. He's top 5 in D scoring.
- Feanor

Wow, where do I sign up?

Absolutely. I have no complaints with Streit. He's been very good. But he's not a young player. First round pick and prospect.... Where do I sign up!?
- PLindbergh31

I will add that he has indeed played to the level of his cap hit so far.

FWIW, here is what I think the trade value is of the guys that most of us want to get rid of:

Rinaldo: Zilch, couldn't give him away
Umberger: see, Rinaldo
VLC: Maybe a 6th or 7th if we eat half the deal.
Read: 3rd round pick

Grossmann: Late 2nd round pick from a contender, may have to add one of our 4ths to get the deal done though.
Coburn: Late 1st round pick from a contender, may have to add one of our 4ths to get the deal done though
AMac: Zilch, unless we are willing to retain some of the $$$
Schultz: 4th round pick
CC: maybe a 6th or 7th from someone looking for depth for the playoffs
MDZ: maybe a 4th or 5th from someone looking for depth for the playoffs
Streit: late 2nd round pick from a contender
L Schenn: 3rd round pick

Emery: 6th or 7th rounder
- BiggE

Very well done. The only changes I would make are maybe Read could get you a 2nd and Schultz a 3rd from a contender

Absolutely. I have no complaints with Streit. He's been very good. But he's not a young player. First round pick and prospect.... Where do I sign up!?
- PLindbergh31

Agree, he has played well but I just don't see anyone giving up a first for him. Maybe if he was 4 years younger.

MDZ did stay with Bonino.
- wolfhounds

No he didn't. Bonino had a clear shooting lane to the net.

Just thought this was interesting.

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Not sure what I take from it. I kind of feel that Hextall thinks this team is soft so maybe a player like Kassian would be interesting to him at the right price.

I will add that he has indeed played to the level of his cap hit so far.
- MBFlyerfan

Agreed.

Streit is worth a 1st and a good prospect. He's top 5 in D scoring.
- Feanor

Maybe, but you're right in that he could be useful for a playoff team.

If this team further bottoms out, it's worth exploring a trade.

Streit is worth a 1st and a good prospect. He's top 5 in D scoring.
- Feanor

that contract though...and his age. Not sure you'd get a 1st and a prospect for him. Having him signed to that contract isn't a plus, it's a minus.

Agree, he has played well but I just don't see anyone giving up a first for him. Maybe if he was 4 years younger.
- 3flyerkids

Possibly if a contending team lost their top offensive dman and PP QB to injury around the deadline they may be desperate enough.

Maybe, but you're right in that he could be useful for a playoff team.

If this team further bottoms out, it's worth exploring a trade.
- johndewar

If Streit is traded he must be replaced for next year. Now that would be interesting

that contract though...and his age. Not sure you'd get a 1st and a prospect for him. Having him signed to that contract isn't a plus, it's a minus.
- Isles_since_6

The last few years of the deal could be a bitter pill to swallow, but right now Streit is earning his money. He's been very good.

'With possession' means the team kept the puck on the exit. For example, a tape-to-tape outlet, or somebody skating it out.

'Successful' includes anything that gets them out of the zone, whether the team keeps the puck or not. Examples: high and hard off the glass, dump outs, unsuccessful outlets, (and all the stuff listed under 'w possession') etc.
- Tomahawk

I have two hypothetical scenarios with a question for each.

First hypothetical scenario is a defenseman makes a perfect pass right on the tape to a forward along the wall, the opposition defenseman pinches in and breaks up the play, keeping the puck in the Flyers zone. My question is, who in the play gets charged with the unsuccessful breakout?


Second hypothetical situaiton. A defenseman has the puck down low, and it double teamed by the opposition forecheckers. He has no clear outlet available to him, nor the time and space to do much with the puck. He simply tries to rim or chip the puck out of the zone, because that is the only play he has. It's kept in at the blueline. Is that defenseman charged with a failed clear?

When leaving the realm of Fantasy Land, can you please pick me up a few widgets.
Thxs.
- PLindbergh31

Fantasy land, is that where the Sharks signed John Scott, and the Panthers signed Shawn Thornton? Because, obviously, only the Flyers would sign such useless tough guys.

that contract though...and his age. Not sure you'd get a 1st and a prospect for him. Having him signed to that contract isn't a plus, it's a minus.
- Isles_since_6

There's nothing wrong with his contract. He's played better as a 36 and 37 year old in Philly than he did in his last season in New York.

Fantasy land, is that where the Sharks signed John Scott, and the Panthers signed Shawn Thornton? Because, obviously, only the Flyers would sign such useless tough guys.
- BulliesPhan87

I can't stand Rinaldo... but I'd rather have him than either of those two morons.

the way streit plays I dont see him falling off a cliff production wise. Not a lot of hard miles on his body as not a physical player.

I def look to move him as he is living up to his contract adn has a lot of value imo.

No he didn't. Bonino had a clear shooting lane to the net.
- MJL

Bonino on a breakaway had plenty of room to build speed, created space with the spin-o-rama, and additional space being left-handed. It was a sweet move and a nice shot. MDZ isn't Lidstrom, but if that's not staying with a player, not many defenders across the NHL are sticking with their man.

Fantasy land, is that where the Sharks signed John Scott, and the Panthers signed Shawn Thornton? Because, obviously, only the Flyers would sign such useless tough guys.
- BulliesPhan87

I wouldn't call Thornton useless. He was a regular on a Bruins team that won a Cup. Thornton isn't a defensive liability, nor is he an undisciplined penalty machine that constantly leaves his team shorthanded. Not sure if you are comparing Rinaldo to him, because they aren't in the same stratosphere as players.

Scott is a big goon, who really serves no purpose. He doesn't have NHL skill. He is a huge guy that can play forward or defense, so he's not as useless as Zacy poo is either. You got anyone else?

I can't stand Rinaldo... but I'd rather have him than either of those two morons.
- ThirdEye

You think Rinaldo could have been a regular on the Bruins team that won the Cup?

I have two hypothetical scenarios with a question for each.

First hypothetical scenario is a defenseman makes a perfect pass right on the tape to a forward along the wall, the opposition defenseman pinches in and breaks up the play, keeping the puck in the Flyers zone. My question is, who in the play gets charged with the unsuccessful breakout?


Second hypothetical situaiton. A defenseman has the puck down low, and it double teamed by the opposition forecheckers. He has no clear outlet available to him, nor the time and space to do much with the puck. He simply tries to rim or chip the puck out of the zone, because that is the only play he has. Is that defenseman charged with a failed clear?
- MJL

I'm sure Jess would be happy to answer any questions you have about how things are scored.

You think Rinaldo could have been a regular on the Bruins team that won the Cup?
- PLindbergh31

Like I said, I can't stand the guy, and I want him gone. That said, yeah I could see him being a regular on that team. I don't think he brings anything unique (except maybe exceptionally bad judgement and timing) to the table. I think almost all teams employee someone very similar to him. I'm not sure that skill set is totally necessary anymore, but it is still in use on most teams.

I wouldn't call Thornton useless. He was a regular on a Bruins team that won a Cup. Thornton isn't a defensive liability, nor is he an undisciplined penalty machine that constantly leaves his team shorthanded. Not sure if you are comparing Rinaldo to him, because they aren't in the same stratosphere as players.

Scott is a big goon, who really serves no purpose. He doesn't have NHL skill. He is a huge guy that can play forward or defense, so he's not as useless as Zacy poo is either. You got anyone else?
- PLindbergh31

I think you've been sufficiently victimized here, I'm done with you.