U make no sense at all bro
Teams gotta totally suck for those picks.
The NHL has nothing to do with it.
Question is how bad do want the Flyers to get.
- Nighthawk

Where they finish is where they finish. Being dead last is no guarantee of anything. They did that in 2006-07 and ended up picking 2nd.

I would like to see the Flyers start selling off pieces, though. It doesn't have to be by the TDL, because I am not sure a lot of the pieces most folks want gone are tradeable at this deadline.

I can't see much of a market for a guy like Nick Grossmann. Bryan Allen is similar in both play and salary, but has less time left on his contract, and he went unclaimed on waivers a week ago. Emery's play has been subpar, and I can see him being worth much. Guys like Umberger, MacDonald & Lecavalier are hard to deal because of their contracts.

If they decide to move a guy like Mark Streit or Braydon Coburn there should be a deadline market and good value. Same goes for Nick Schultz, although they seem to want to re-sign him.

It sounds like, if they had someone able to take on his defensive responsibilities, that he'd be best suited on the second line surrounded by better line mates?

I also think that he knows his primary duty on this team is to be a defensive forward. The Flyers don't count on him to score, they count on him to do something the other forwards either can't or won't do. No matter how much Berube tells him to shoot, the defensive responsibilities are always at the front of his thoughts. IMO.
- Flyers_01

Perhaps at some point in the future -- although not as a rookie -- Scott Laughton might be able to share some of the defensive burden.

Where they finish is where they finish. Being dead last is no guarantee of anything. They did that in 2006-07 and ended up picking 2nd.

I would like to see the Flyers start selling off pieces, though. It doesn't have to be by the TDL, because I am not sure a lot of the pieces most folks want gone are tradeable at this deadline.

I can't see much of a market for a guy like Nick Grossmann. Bryan Allen is similar in both play and salary, but has less time left on his contract, and he went unclaimed on waivers a week ago. Emery's play has been subpar, and I can see him being worth much. Guys like Umberger, MacDonald & Lecavalier are hard to deal because of their contracts.

If they decide to move a guy like Mark Streit or Braydon Coburn there should be a deadline market and good value. Same goes for Nick Schultz, although they seem to want to re-sign him.
- Jsaquella

The Flyers could absolutely find a taker for Grossmann if they are so inclined. The hockey people tend to see him differently than fans (especially the advanced stats devotees).

This sucks!!! They need to learn how to win 2-1 games and learn how to grind it out. Why? Why? How about taking the strength of your team and using it to your advantage. Turn them loose offensively and try to outscore teams. Lava had the right idea....When does baseball season start again.....

Mason is cursed. No long term success other than his first year.
- Beatle_john

Obviously you haven't watched him very much since he came here. He's been very solid ever since pulling on a Flyers jersey and is one of the bright spots on the team. I have no worries about tending. Problem is, the media and many fans like to parrot the lines they are fed... Big tough Flyers need a goalie.. although we have no enforcer, and our goaltending is strong.

I agree with most of this.

Umberger has actually played a bit better in the last six weeks or so. Mind you, he had nowhere to go but up from his play in the first eight weeks of the season, but he's been OK for most part since then. As for him on the power play, his history even as recently as last year in Columbus was that he could score PPGs in close to the net.
So I don't blame Berube for trying that out.
- bmeltzer

I don't blame him for trying it out, but it's been half a season with poor production. There might not be an answer on the roster, but Berube has kept Umberger on that unit for most of the season.

It's a catch-22. The players haven't gotten it done, and there is a bad mix, for sure. At the same time, I don't think the coach has done a good job of always putting guys in the best position to thrive.

I'm not saying, in any way shape or form, that if the Flyers had a Hitchcock, Babcock or any other "name" coach that they'd be better.

Mason is cursed. No long term success other than his first year.
- Beatle_john

Obviously you haven't watched him very much since he came here. He's been very solid ever since pulling on a Flyers jersey and is one of the bright spots on the team. I have no worries about tending. Problem is, the media and many fans like to parrot the lines they are fed... Big tough Flyers need a goalie.. although we have no enforcer, and our goaltending is strong.

The Flyers could absolutely find a taker for Grossmann if they are so inclined. The hockey people tend to see him differently than fans (especially the advanced stats devotees).
- bmeltzer

I just see Allen getting waived and not claimed and wonder about that. They're similar guys, and Allen is a UFA in July, while Grossmann is signed next year to a cap hit that's expensive for what he brings.

If a team is looking for a rental, there's several guys who are similar to Grossmann and free agents in July, where a team doesn't have to worry about the $3.5mm moving forward. Guys like Allen, Jan Hedja, Bryce Salvador, even Eric Brewer.

Just seems like those guys are plentiful and don't have the cap implication moving forward. I think Grossmann could be more easily moved at the draft or next TDL

I remember when a few people on here were saying Emery is Masons equal or better..... where are you now???

Last night was an ugly cocktail and bad play, bad goaltending, and bad luck all combined to make a nasty drink that you spit out on the first sip. They played well until the gave up the first goal, and then they were done. That's very disappointing.

Obviously you haven't watched him very much since he came here. He's been very solid ever since pulling on a Flyers jersey and is one of the bright spots on the team. I have no worries about tending. Problem is, the media and many fans like to parrot the lines they are fed... Big tough Flyers need a goalie.. although we have no enforcer, and our goaltending is strong.
- Hextall271

Mason is legit. Again I will state..... Lundqvist numbers behind an atrocious defense. Impressive

Perhaps at some point in the future -- although not as a rookie -- Scott Laughton might be able to share some of the defensive burden.
- bmeltzer

I think Laughton can take on some of those responsibilities. Free Couturier up a little bit, to see if it can help him further develop offensively. What do they have to lose at this point?

Apparently Marchand slew footed a guy last night, and of course, apparently those epic homers Brickley and Edwards defended him. It really is embarrassing to hockey to have he and Brickley call games.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...hould-lead-to-suspension/

Has there been any update on how long Laughton is out? Obvious concussion, but I don't want him rushed back...

I think Laughton can take on some of those responsibilities. Free Couturier up a little bit, to see if it can help him further develop offensively. What do they have to lose at this point?
- MJL

Laughton also deserves some PP time. He works hard every shift and has shown some offensive ability. Berube should give the kid a chance ( which could lead to even more confidence) and sit 18. No way, that guy should be on PP.. He has had his chance.

Apparently Marchand slew footed a guy last night, and of course, apparently those epic homers Brickley and Edwards defended him. It really is embarrassing to hockey to have he and Brickley call games.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...hould-lead-to-suspension/
- Hextall271

Them and the Pittsburgh announcers are the WORST!

Laughton also deserves some PP time. He works hard every shift and has shown some offensive ability. Berube should give the kid a chance ( which could lead to even more confidence) and sit 18. No way, that guy should be on PP.. He has had his chance.
- 3flyerkids

He does work hard, but I wouldn't put him on the PP. Laughton's game away from the puck is NHL caliber, but his play with the puck at this point is not, in my opinion. He helps the Flyers out in puck pursuit and on the forecheck and backcheck, but offensively, he's not a 2nd line NHL center at this point.

be patient they say... in awaiting one's execution?

sorry but i saw this coming two years ago, need to circle the wagons and get ready to swallow bitter pills.

Laughton also deserves some PP time. He works hard every shift and has shown some offensive ability. Berube should give the kid a chance ( which could lead to even more confidence) and sit 18. No way, that guy should be on PP.. He has had his chance.
- 3flyerkids

shh we need couturier to build his trade value.

Apparently Marchand slew footed a guy last night, and of course, apparently those epic homers Brickley and Edwards defended him. It really is embarrassing to hockey to have he and Brickley call games.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...hould-lead-to-suspension/
- Hextall271

Those guys and Steigerwald & Errey in Pittsburgh are basically WWE announcers.

I remember when a few people on here were saying Emery is Masons equal or better..... where are you now???
- GOA88

this

Those guys and Steigerwald & Errey in Pittsburgh are basically WWE announcers.
- Jsaquella

You know, you're right. That's about how i'd classify them. They also have some Springer type commentary in the mix for good measure..

Them and the Pittsburgh announcers are the WORST!
- GOA88

I used to hate listeningto Potvin for the Panthers as well, but yes.. these two teams are the worst.

I remember when a few people on here were saying Emery is Masons equal or better..... where are you now???
- GOA88

I really like Emery and I don't think he's as bad as he has played the last little bit. Remember, how he played vs the Rangers? Problem is, he has VERY limited lateral movement, anwith a defense like ours, it' a bad combo. Mason is the real deal IMO, I just hope he gets over these injuries ok, and the team doesn't rush him back in a lost season.

He does work hard, but I wouldn't put him on the PP. Laughton's game away from the puck is NHL caliber, but his play with the puck at this point is not, in my opinion. He helps the Flyers out in puck pursuit and on the forecheck and backcheck, but offensively, he's not a 2nd line NHL center at this point.
- MJL

Well there has to be a better option than Hamburglar. Laughton has shown some offensive skill and like we both said ...he works hard. The coach should reward hard work. IMO Laughton has shown a hell of a lot more than RJ.
I can't remember the last time the 2nd PP scored a goal or if they have ever scored in back to back games.