Hey, thought you would be a fan, since it's based on Vally (former player) watching all the games... but nevermind I guess.
- Tomahawk

Aren't advanced stats based on people watching the games?

My thing with Z2 has always been this: is he or isn't he better than one of the 48 guys the Flyers have under contract?

I understand that he isn't Oliver Bjorkstrand, who I wanted them to draft. But are we certain he can't develop into Derek Dorsett or someone like that, a useful player who, quite frankly, could fill a role for the Flyers?

I say this because I am not married to a single player who is not developing and helping the Flyers or Phantoms win games. What good is all the skill Petr Straka has if he never scores consistently?

The Flyers need better players in their organization who fulfill the roles they are supposed to fill. I have no problems with Z2 if he were to come in and fill a role properly and, maybe, even develop past that.

My thing with Z2 has always been this: is he or isn't he better than one of the 48 guys the Flyers have under contract?

I understand that he isn't Oliver Bjorkstrand, who I wanted them to draft. But are we certain he can't develop into Derek Dorsett or someone like that, a useful player who, quite frankly, could fill a role for the Flyers?

I say this because I am not married to a single player who is not developing and helping the Flyers or Phantoms win games. What good is all the skill Petr Straka has if he never scores consistently?

The Flyers need better players in their organization who fulfill the roles they are supposed to fill. I have no problems with Z2 if he were to come in and fill a role properly and, maybe, even develop past that.
- AllInForFlyers

(frank) that guy

me too their streaming selection stinks
- -davies-

For films it sure does. I use NetFlix streaming for TV shows like House of Cards and Peaky Blinders (which is fantastic.)

Peaky Blinders is my new jam on there.

HOC
- Tomahawk

I should have scrolled down before replying.

(frank) that guy
- stayinthefnnet

Agreed, but he helped the Rags last year and has been useful for the Canucks this year.

The Flyers need to find a few more guys who help them, not hurt them

(frank) that guy
- stayinthefnnet

freaky no eyebrow having weirdo

Aren't advanced stats based on people watching the games?
- mayorofangrytown

Yeah, no stats at all, of any kind, w/o some human watching... yet.

Derek Dorsett
- AllInForFlyers

Hockey ability: Z1 < Z2 <<<<<<<< Dorsett/Carcillo/Boll/etc.

Hockey ability: Z1 < Z2 <<<<<<<< Dorsett/Carcillo/Boll/etc.
- Tomahawk

nah bro carbombs the man bro.

I hope Z1 and Z2 are on the same line together next season.

nah bro carbombs the man bro.
- stayinthefnnet

After the playoffs last year, Carbomb is dead to me.

Agreed, but he helped the Rags last year and has been useful for the Canucks this year.

The Flyers need to find a few more guys who help them, not hurt them
- AllInForFlyers

yeah. i guess its just idealistic (some what say being a wussy, but whatever) of me to want the sport set up so that a guy like dorsett with 0 skill whatsoever actually hurts the team more than helps them.

After the playoffs last year, Carbomb is dead to me.
- johndewar

ive never been more upset to see the flyers give up a goal.

Hockey ability: Z1 < Z2 <<<<<<<< Dorsett/Carcillo/Boll/etc.
- Tomahawk

See, that is exactly what I am saying. There are no silver bullets, and the NHL is damn near a no-trading league for long stretches.

So you have to do what you can to get better incrementally. If Z2 is better than some guys in the organization, I would hope they find ways to drop the worst guy and bring in the incremental improvement. Maybe he won't make a difference on the NHL roster. But the Flyers need to get better as an organization, and any talent upgrade is welcome, especially since they drafted the guy.

err, injected? Is that a Canucker thing?
- wolfhounds

Installed* happy? Wrong word to use.

Installed* happy? Wrong word to use.
- vancity787

I inject heroin not speakers. My bad.

After the playoffs last year, Carbomb is dead to me.
- johndewar

should of kept

should of kept
- BulliesPhan87

him and rinaldo on the same line.

Spending the most money in the NHL, to be a bottom feeder is a difficult task. Mission accomplished.
- PLindbergh31

What happened to homer's plan?! it came true!

him and rinaldo on the same line.
- stayinthefnnet

See, that isn't what I am saying. If he is better than Rinaldo in the role Rinaldo is supposed to fill, then move Rinaldo out.

Every upgrade, however incremental, helps them.

him and rinaldo on the same line.
- stayinthefnnet

carbomb is a man's man, rinaldo is just a boy

Some won't like it, but I would rather have that than what we saw last night
- AllInForFlyers

Short-term: nice; long-term: useless, and potentially detrimental. Unless people believe there's a chance they make it to the post-season.

Hockey ability: Z1 < Z2 <<<<<<<< Dorsett/Carcillo/Boll/etc.
- Tomahawk

Since Rinaldo is a steaming pile of dung, technically shouldn't he be Z2?

Nor do I. It was a pretty damned good move by Bonino. I think that one is on Emery.
- PLindbergh31

considering couturier has an open shot from roughly the same place in the third and miller makes a routine save.....either couts shot it into the logo (don't they all?) or miller had position and took the net away........mdz could have made a better play but you need the goalie to make that save

Installed* happy? Wrong word to use.
- vancity787

Hey, I know speaker technology is moving forward - along with everything else - just wondering if there was something I was missing out on.