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Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jan 14 @ 11:20 AM ET
yeah, I did think of it, and he'll probably suit up vs Boston because they have a few doosh bags there.

I was actually missing Dorsett last night to be honest

- jimbro83


Honestly, I know the Rangers got the third rounder for Dorsett, but given that his contract is pretty much equivalent to Glass's contract, I am not sure I wouldn't rather have Dorsett, even if it meant giving back the third rounder. Dorsett is just a better player.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jan 14 @ 11:21 AM ET
I don't know why we traded him, obviously AV wanted Glass and Dorsett was the odd man out but what a mistake it was, he was a lunch pail guy
- HankdaTank


It all comes down to this. Would you rather have Glass and Iverson or Dorsett?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 14 @ 11:22 AM ET
Honestly, I know the Rangers got the third rounder for Dorsett, but given that his contract is pretty much equivalent to Glass's contract, I am not sure I wouldn't rather have Dorsett, even if it meant giving back the third rounder. Dorsett is just a better player.
- Pete V


13 points this year for Vancouver.

I think Glass could play 10 years for the Rangers and not get 13 points total.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jan 14 @ 11:24 AM ET
Honestly, I know the Rangers got the third rounder for Dorsett, but given that his contract is pretty much equivalent to Glass's contract, I am not sure I wouldn't rather have Dorsett, even if it meant giving back the third rounder. Dorsett is just a better player.
- Pete V

Agreed. I think what it came down to was dorsett is a ufa after this year and with the way quality 4th liners get paid nowadays he will get over 2M on the open market.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jan 14 @ 11:24 AM ET
I get that, and I agree. But, in order for it to make a real difference, you almost have to trade one of your Top 3 centers for a guy that is better in the dot. Otherwise, if you are just bringing in a specialist, I don't think your overall percentage goes up much. At least, however, you would have a guy capable of winning key draws during the game.

But, how many draws is that guy going to take during the normal flow of the game. Not many, right?

- Pete V



Yeah you are right. I would just hope we would have someone once we are in the playoffs if the Rangers were up by 1 with a minute left that could take a draw in the defensive zone and not have to sit through a nail biting shooting gallery because most likely we lose the draw. Maybe just wishful thinking on my part, but I would like to see someone added before the playoffs without changing the lineup significantly.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jan 14 @ 11:27 AM ET
Agreed. I think what it came down to was dorsett is a ufa after this year and with the way quality 4th liners get paid nowadays he will get over 2M on the open market.
- rangerdanger94


I certainly understand the reason for the trade, but I would also much rather have Dorsett this year. Hopefully, that Iverson kid turns into a prospect, but isn't he struggling this year?
HankdaTank
New York Rangers
Location: Cut City, NJ
Joined: 04.10.2012

Jan 14 @ 11:29 AM ET
I certainly understand the reason for the trade, but I would also much rather have Dorsett this year. Hopefully, that Iverson kid turns into a prospect, but isn't he struggling this year?
- Pete V

Yes he is and during the WJC he got more playing time and did nothing with it, can't win every 3rd round
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jan 14 @ 11:30 AM ET
yeah, I did think of it, and he'll probably suit up vs Boston because they have a few doosh bags there.

I was actually missing Dorsett last night to be honest

- jimbro83



Dorsett was a better fit for ur team, anyhow, why don't u guys trade for Vermette?
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jan 14 @ 11:31 AM ET
Yes
- HankdaTank

He's actually been pretty good the last month and a half. Was struggling badly to start they year but not anymore.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jan 14 @ 11:31 AM ET
Dorsett was a better fit for ur team, anyhow, why don't u guys trade for Vermette?
- Ur Not Me

We apparently want Sekera over anyone else.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jan 14 @ 11:31 AM ET
I think that would screw with the chemistry although he's not producing enough to save himself right now
- HankdaTank

I get the chemistry thing but to bring in a face off guy we need to clear cap space. How much space do we have right now?

Would you guys do Glass and Hags for Stewart and a 2nd
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jan 14 @ 11:33 AM ET
I get the chemistry thing but to bring in a face off guy we need to clear cap space. How much space do we have right now?

Would you guys do Glass and Hags for Stewart and a 2nd

- nyrangers9479



Sorry but that makes no sense for Buffalo's perspective.....
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 14 @ 11:34 AM ET
Dorsett was a better fit for ur team, anyhow, why don't u guys trade for Vermette?
- Ur Not Me


I don't think he's attainable without a first rounder
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jan 14 @ 11:36 AM ET
I don't think he's attainable without a first rounder
- jimbro83



I think so without a 1st, he's not elite or top 4Dman which would command a 1st...

mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jan 14 @ 11:36 AM ET
Problem I see with moving Hagelin is, the guy is great on the PK, which would open a whole other issue, and despite not putting up points right now, he spends a lot of time in the other teams zone. I don't want to lose Hagelin.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jan 14 @ 11:40 AM ET
I think so without a 1st, he's not elite or top 4Dman which would command a 1st...
- Ur Not Me

Paul Gaustad cost a 1st at the deadline a few years ago. Erat cost Forsberg. Inflated prices for guys like Vermette.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 14 @ 11:41 AM ET
I think so without a 1st, he's not elite or top 4Dman which would command a 1st...
- Ur Not Me


I would definitely be into acquiring him, the Rangers would also have to figure out a way to take his cap hit, 3.75 mil
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Jan 14 @ 11:42 AM ET
Paul Gaustad cost a 1st at the deadline a few years ago. Erat cost Forsberg. Inflated prices for guys like Vermette.
- rangerdanger94



That Capitals trade...Jesus.

Imagine if they had Forsberg?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 14 @ 11:44 AM ET
That Capitals trade...Jesus.

Imagine if they had Forsberg?

- MidnightMarauder


Klein cost Del Zotto
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jan 14 @ 11:45 AM ET
I would definitely be into acquiring him, the Rangers would also have to figure out a way to take his cap hit, 3.75 mil
- jimbro83

I think we have enough room to fit Sekera so if Arizona retains a million we should be good. Arizonas not exactly a franchise that has money to spend on players not playing for them though.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jan 14 @ 11:46 AM ET
I don't know why we traded him, obviously AV wanted Glass and Dorsett was the odd man out but what a mistake it was, he was a lunch pail guy
- HankdaTank

Traded Dorsett for the pick as well and at time, to clear cap space. Of course paying $1.45 million to replace someone who makes $1.633 million, makes no sense, but you all already knew that already.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jan 14 @ 11:47 AM ET
Paul Gaustad cost a 1st at the deadline a few years ago. Erat cost Forsberg. Inflated prices for guys like Vermette.
- rangerdanger94


This is ur problem, just bc a few dumb GM's make a bold & stupid mistake, that all will follow suit... honestly dude, just stop and go back to ur drawing board......
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jan 14 @ 11:48 AM ET
Sorry but that makes no sense for Buffalo's perspective.....
- Ur Not Me

To give you an idea of how buffalo feels about Stewart he was a healthy scratch last night and is on pace for 10 goals and 23 points. They get a 26 year old RFA and a physical character guy for an expiring contract and a 2nd. Don't they have 3 firsts this year? I don't think the 2nd is a problem.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jan 14 @ 11:48 AM ET
Problem I see with moving Hagelin is, the guy is great on the PK, which would open a whole other issue, and despite not putting up points right now, he spends a lot of time in the other teams zone. I don't want to lose Hagelin.
- mdw7413

We have seen how good the third line can be using Hags' speed coupled with Hayes' playmaking and either Miller or Stempniak there. If you could add a center that wins draws and move Hayes to wing, that would bolster the lineup. But again, the team just won 13 of 14 before last night, so no reason to panic, though we all the holes that exist which need to be filled.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 14 @ 11:49 AM ET
We have seen how good the third line can be using Hags' speed coupled with Hayes' playmaking and either Miller or Stempniak there. If you could add a center that wins draws and move Hayes to wing, that would bolster the lineup. But again, the team just won 13 of 14 before last night, so no reason to panic, though we all the holes that exist which need to be filled.
- airjan23


doesn't it feel right now like we won 1 out of 14 before last night?
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