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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 14 @ 9:27 AM ET
Pittsburgh's crew is pretty bad too.

The canadian crews are probably the best. They will actually criticize their own teams.

I always felt the Flyers have done a disservice to their own fans by never really criticizing their own players. There are so many fans who just thinks X player sucks or Y player is great because he scores some goals.

It was kind of nice to see Keith Jones discuss Matt Read's inability to neutralize Stamkos' stick on the his PP goal.

- PhillySportsGuy


Yeah, the Canadian crews are the best. They have a certain level of familiarity with their teams' players (more calling out by name for the home as opposed to by team for the opponent) but they aren't opposed to criticizing them.

That's why I used to love Dornhoeffer when he would "stop it right there" and break plays down for people. Instead of heading "Back to the studio" the broadcasting crew actually would give you some broken down insight into some of the plays. That way, you could see what all 5 players were doing and you could point out blown coverages and bad positioning at times. I miss that.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 14 @ 9:27 AM ET
Well, I THINK it was a punch.

- MBFlyerfan


I think Chara thought it was a punch too. He put his gloved fist in through the back of Paquette's skull.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 14 @ 9:28 AM ET
That's why I used to love Dornhoeffer when he would "stop it right there" and break plays down for people. Instead of heading "Back to the studio" the broadcasting crew actually would give you some broken down insight into some of the plays. That way, you could see what all 5 players were doing and you could point out blown coverages and bad positioning at times. I miss that.
- jmatchett383


I liked Dorny and I think the X's and O's stuff is lacking on the current broadcast.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 14 @ 9:34 AM ET
Look, we're here to discuss the facts. Your opinion is irrelevant.
- jmatchett383




wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jan 14 @ 9:34 AM ET
Also, it was posted on the last blog, but Cedric Paquette thought it was a good idea to get tough with Zdeno Chara. After that, he decided to get tough with Chara at the end of the game, as well. Poor poophead.


- jmatchett383


Few more years and Chara is gone, and hopefully by then we have one of the meaner giants on the Flyers.

Chara against anyone other than Boyle ...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 14 @ 9:36 AM ET
Few more years and Chara is gone, and hopefully by then we have one of the meaner giants on the Flyers.

Chara against anyone other than Boyle ...

- wolfhounds


Brian Boyle? He'd turtle just like he did against Matt Carkner. He's only tough when he's got 6 inches and 30 pounds on a guy (i.e. Adam Hall).
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 14 @ 9:37 AM ET
Yeah, the Canadian crews are the best. They have a certain level of familiarity with their teams' players (more calling out by name for the home as opposed to by team for the opponent) but they aren't opposed to criticizing them.

That's why I used to love Dornhoeffer when he would "stop it right there" and break plays down for people. Instead of heading "Back to the studio" the broadcasting crew actually would give you some broken down insight into some of the plays. That way, you could see what all 5 players were doing and you could point out blown coverages and bad positioning at times. I miss that.

- jmatchett383



Dorny was great.

I watched the video the first time through without sound because I'm at work. What a difference it makes when you have to listen to Edwards.
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jan 14 @ 9:38 AM ET
I can't stand Pittsburgh's crew at all. I don't hear much of Jack Edwards, but I know he's awful.
- johndewar


In my opinion.. if we're talking worst Eastern Conference announcers... Pittsburgh is the worst (and no, it isn't just because I'm a Flyers fan) and Boston is second.

Pittsburgh's guys talk like the Pens can do no wrong.. at all.. ever.. and they have the best players on not only planet Earth, but in the whole humungous big universe, and they feel the need to tell you every other 5 seconds. Every home team announcers a biased some.. but they take he cake. Malkin could break his stick over his knee and stab an opposing player in the throat, and they would be saying "I didn't see anything there.. looks to me like the opposing player slashed Malkin, so if anything he should get the penalty".. I can't leave the Pens channel on for more than 30 seconds at a time, unless I mute it. It's really a shame.

Boston is just as bad... not only are they extremely biased, but their frickin stupid. I remember when a player (can't remember who) followed through on a shot and hit a defending player in the face with his stick... Edwards was crying for a penalty left and right.. I don't remember if it was Brickley or their on ice reporter at the time, that had to correct him and tell him since it was a follow through it's not a penalty.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 14 @ 9:40 AM ET
I thought his reaction was unprofessional and way over-the-top.
- bmeltzer



I agree Bill. I thought the commentary of both announcers was embarrasing.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 14 @ 9:41 AM ET
Really I must have missed that. Chara boards the guy, then Paquett comes over and bumps him, cross check to chest, Paquette throws a punch to Charas face, Chara knocks him out.

We must be watching a different video.

- MBFlyerfan



I'll have to look at it again, because I initially thought that all of Paquette's jabs in the first altercation were below the head.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 14 @ 9:43 AM ET
In my opinion.. if we're talking worst Eastern Conference announcers... Pittsburgh is the worst (and no, it isn't just because I'm a Flyers fan) and Boston is second.

Pittsburgh's guys talk like the Pens can do no wrong.. at all.. ever.. and they have the best players on not only planet Earth, but in the whole humungous big universe, and they feel the need to tell you every other 5 seconds. Every home team announcers a biased some.. but they take he cake. Malkin could break his stick over his knee and stab an opposing player in the throat, and they would be saying "I didn't see anything there.. looks to me like the opposing player slashed Malkin, so if anything he should get the penalty".. I can't leave the Pens channel on for more than 30 seconds at a time, unless I mute it. It's really a shame.

Boston is just as bad... not only are they extremely biased, but their frickin stupid. I remember when a player (can't remember who) followed through on a shot and hit a defending player in the face with his stick... Edwards was crying for a penalty left and right.. I don't remember if it was Brickley or their on ice reporter at the time, that had to correct him and tell him since it was a follow through it's not a penalty.

- WarriorHockey21


Listening to Paul Steigerwald broadcast a hockey game is what I would imagine having a spike driven through my ear drum feels like. He's got a smarm factor when he broadcasts that I find every bit as grating as Jack Edwards' spastic homerism.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 14 @ 9:43 AM ET
Pittsburgh's crew is pretty bad too.

The canadian crews are probably the best. They will actually criticize their own teams.

I always felt the Flyers have done a disservice to their own fans by never really criticizing their own players. There are so many fans who just thinks X player sucks or Y player is great because he scores some goals.

It was kind of nice to see Keith Jones discuss Matt Read's inability to neutralize Stamkos' stick on the his PP goal.

- PhillySportsGuy



Chris Therien when he was on the radio never had a problem calling out the Flyers for their play.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 14 @ 9:45 AM ET
I'll have to look at it again, because I initially thought that all of Paquette's jabs in the first altercation were below the head.
- MJL



He still has his hand on his stick, but he hits Charas face, its not a cross checking motion because the other hand doesn't really move all that much. Its not deflected either.

I wonder if there is any more history between the two players?

The second incident is definitely after some "history" lol
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 14 @ 9:46 AM ET
Chris Therien when he was on the radio never had a problem calling out the Flyers for their play.
- MJL


I actually liked Therien on the radio. He didn't really hold back at all.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 14 @ 9:47 AM ET
I actually liked Therien on the radio. He didn't really hold back at all.
- jmatchett383



Bundy on the radio was sometimes hilarious. He would get so pissed off.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 14 @ 9:49 AM ET
Chris Therien when he was on the radio never had a problem calling out the Flyers for their play.
- MJL

should've kept him and Saunders together, even if it meant making Saunders the PxP guy. I don't mind JJ, but Timmy is the best.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 14 @ 9:49 AM ET
The worst part is how incredibly biased the announcers are there. In the first altercation, Chara hits Paquette in the face and it's all well and good and deserved. In the 2nd altercation, Paquette takes a shot at Chara in the face and the comment is "what is that!!!". Embarrassing.
- MJL



they are the absolute worse broadcasting team in hockey. I cannot stand them.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 14 @ 9:50 AM ET
I actually liked Therien on the radio. He didn't really hold back at all.
- jmatchett383

Switching him and Coatsey was a mistake. Coates doesn't have enough to say to talk all game, and Bundy shouldn't be limited to one or two comments a game.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 14 @ 9:51 AM ET
Switching him and Coatsey was a mistake. Coates doesn't have enough to say to talk all game, and Bundy shouldn't be limited to one or two comments a game.
- BulliesPhan87


Bundy also seems to get tongue tied a lot when he does get a chance to say something. But I'm sure doing TV is hard to get used to.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 14 @ 9:52 AM ET
Switching him and Coatsey was a mistake. Coates doesn't have enough to say to talk all game, and Bundy shouldn't be limited to one or two comments a game.
- BulliesPhan87


I would have just let Coates go, he does nothing for me.
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jan 14 @ 9:52 AM ET
Chris Therien when he was on the radio never had a problem calling out the Flyers for their play.
- MJL


And that's what I love from announcers. Even Jonesy does it from time to time. I want guys to be as honest as possible and not looking through orange, or any other colored glasses. If it's a penalty, it's a penalty.. if the player is dogging it, he's dogging it. Call it for what it is.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 14 @ 9:53 AM ET
And that's what I love from announcers. Even Jonesy does it from time to time. I want guys to be as honest as possible and not looking through orange, or any other colored glasses. If it's a penalty, it's a penalty.. if the player is dogging it, he's dogging it. Call it for what it is.
- WarriorHockey21


...and they say it's onside...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 14 @ 9:54 AM ET
Switching him and Coatsey was a mistake. Coates doesn't have enough to say to talk all game, and Bundy shouldn't be limited to one or two comments a game.
- BulliesPhan87



I haven't listened to any games on the radio this year, but I don't miss "I'm looking right over his shoulder". I like Coates but he's not a TV guy. Therien is better, but I wouldn't mind seeing him in the booth over Jones. I also like Keith Jones, but he's just winging it.
PhiFaninEdm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 11.21.2011

Jan 14 @ 9:55 AM ET
I thought his reaction was unprofessional and way over-the-top.
- bmeltzer


That's Jack Edwards; only one team in the league as far as he is concerned.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 14 @ 9:56 AM ET
I thought his reaction was unprofessional and way over-the-top.
- bmeltzer



that pretty much is him in a nutshell
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