Feds91Stammer
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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while i agree that anderson to detroit makes no sense, i think you're being a little harsh with your criticism.
he's atleast as good as howard.......putting up pretty much the same numbers (better sv%, worse gaa, facing WAAYYY more shots) and a worse team. - sensarmy_11
Howard is better. He's had a sub 2.2 GAA 3 of the last 4 seasons while Anderson had 0 sub 2.2 GAA seasons in that time. |
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digitalbath
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Detroit, MI Joined: 07.09.2011
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Howard is better. He's had a sub 2.2 GAA 3 of the last 4 seasons while Anderson had 0 sub 2.2 GAA seasons in that time. - Feds91Stammer
yeah dude howards still way better than mrazek too |
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digitalbath
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Detroit, MI Joined: 07.09.2011
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yeah dude howards still way better than him and mrazek too - digitalbath
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Howard is better. He's had a sub 2.2 GAA 3 of the last 4 seasons while Anderson had 0 sub 2.2 GAA seasons. - Feds91Stammer
sv% is a much more telling stat for how good a goalie is.....and andy has been over .925 in 3 of the last 5 years...and over .910 the other two.....while consistently facing among the most shots in the entire league.
howard has had the advantage of playing on a very good, and defensively sound team.
i think both goalies are about the same....neither is clearly better than the other. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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U tell them...... DET needs the DDDDDDD - Ur Not Me
They need a high quality point producing defenseman. Preferably right handed. |
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digitalbath
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Detroit, MI Joined: 07.09.2011
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sv% is a much more telling stat for how good a goalie is.....and andy has been over .925 in 3 of the last 5 years...and over .910 the other two.....while consistently facing among the most shots in the entire league.
howard has had the advantage of playing on a very good, and defensively sound team.
i think both goalies are about the same....neither is clearly better than the other. - sensarmy_11
im a little biased but i think howie is better |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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sv% is a much more telling stat for how good a goalie is.....and andy has been over .925 in 3 of the last 5 years...and over .910 the other two.....while consistently facing among the most shots in the entire league.
howard has had the advantage of playing on a very good, and defensively sound team.
i think both goalies are about the same....neither is clearly better than the other. - sensarmy_11
No.
SV% does not take in quality of shots whatsoever.
Team USA believed Howard was/is better. |
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Buttlick
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: spank me Joined: 07.01.2011
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Fixed! - NewfieStud
you need to work on your fixin skillz |
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mventres
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 06.09.2008
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DET and Anderson makes no sense due to Anderson's contract length. Anderson and MIN does make sense though. Also, OTT will be open to draft picks/prospects where a team like SJ (Niemi) will be less likely to like that idea. The BUF goalies also make sense for MIN, but they aren't the most consistent performers, so it would probably be a minor upgrade. Lack is another option, but he doesn't have a lot of experience...Reimer could be an option, but again not the most consistent goalie out there. The EDM goalies aren't the best either, but of the two I think Scrivens would benefit most from a good team in front of him. Finally Khudobin is a name not often mentioned, but I think he could be an interesting option too. I can see why Chuck Fletcher hasn't pulled the trigger yet!
It depends on how close MIN thinks they are. I doubt it's just a G away from being a real contender - they need a true #1 C. So, it doesn't make a lot of sense to go all in for a short-term goalie that will cost the team a lot (Niemi), and Anderson will cost them a lot as well. Neuvrith is tempting as he's probably the most talented of the other goalies, but is a bit injury prone. The others are all more inconsistent and have lower ceilings than Neuvrith. I think the three best options, that are realistic trade targets, would be Khudobin, Neuvrith and Scrivens.
Khudobin and Scrivens are on two year deals, so I think they are nicer targets for MIN.
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As a member of the team, Anderson has no value to Ottawa anymore. He wins games for Ottawa that Ottawa shouldn't be winning. He carries this team, night in and night out. Yet, the lack of talent and depth will prevent Ottawa from making any real playoff push this year. There is no question about that. With Anderson in the pipes, we finish 9th -11th in the east. Why bother? if you don't make the playoffs, finish at the bottom, especially since it will be the second straight year of missing the ploffs.
His value to truly contending teams around the league is very high. It should be, with a good team in front of him, he will be even more great. It should be a matter of "when" not "if" Anderson gets traded. He's been a great soldier for Ottawa up to this point and has done everything that's been asked to him, but it's not the time for him in Ottawa anymore.
Under Cameron.... Cowen, Zibby, Stone,Ceci, Lazar are all getting a real chance to play. Give Lehner the same opportunity and, if this is going to be the some sort of youth core, than truly let them all grow together.
Anderson value will never be higher, and Ottawa is miles away from being a real contending playoff team. Trade him.
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No.
SV% does not take in quality of shots whatsoever.
Team USA believed Howard was/is better. - Feds91Stammer
will answer each line individually.
1. Yes, it does
2. neither does GAA
3. how'd that work out for them...........we all know how good at selecting their team the US olympic committee was. |
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Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz. Joined: 09.20.2013
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If Petry was signed to the Flyers I would no longer need my Viagra medication. |
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SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 08.09.2012
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Howard is better. He's had a sub 2.2 GAA 3 of the last 4 seasons while Anderson had 0 sub 2.2 GAA seasons in that time. - Feds91Stammer
on a far better team |
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I almost want to do the opposite of this and trade jimmy Howard for some prospect studs and high draft picks. - digitalbath
So according to Wings fans... Anderson is worth a 3rd (with salary retention) but Howard is worth *multiple* prospect studs AND *multiple* HIGH draft picks (plural)?
Yikes. |
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I'm interested in the type of quick hits you are referring to prior to posting this rumour blog |
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What the (frank) are you smoking? - Feds91Stammer
A few quick hits to start your day before the Rumor Chart hits later this evening and we officially enter what Brian Burke loves to call "The Silly Season." - Eklund |
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hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I didn't read it , BC Joined: 09.21.2013
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So according to Wings fans... Anderson is worth a 3rd (with salary retention) but Howard is worth *multiple* prospect studs AND *multiple* HIGH draft picks (plural)?
Yikes. - mikeover
Why would Detroit with Howard signed long term want Anderson who is signed long term.
Why would Philly want to trade forwards with Edmonton when the both need work on d? |
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Cptmjl
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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coming from you, every single person on this site who has read what you've written thinks you're a retard, even your own fans are embarassed of you and your stupidity. - SpoiledByOil
and that says a lot. |
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Buttlick
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: spank me Joined: 07.01.2011
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If Petry was signed to the Flyers I would no longer need my Viagra medication. - Streit2ThePoint
can i have your leftovers? |
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Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz. Joined: 09.20.2013
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can i have your leftovers? - Buttlick
eww |
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Why would Detroit with Howard signed long term want Anderson who is signed long term.
Why would Philly want to trade forwards with Edmonton when the both need work on d? - hillbillydeluxe
I'm not saying they would. I just always find it interesting how much more value people place on their own team's players (myself included). While Howard is perhaps marginally better than Anderson, I don't think he is several high-end prospects and high draft picks worth of value better. |
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mventres
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 06.09.2008
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As a member of the team, Anderson has no value to Ottawa anymore. He wins games for Ottawa that Ottawa shouldn't be winning. He carries this team, night in and night out. Yet, the lack of talent and depth will prevent Ottawa from making any real playoff push this year. There is no question about that. With Anderson in the pipes, we finish 9th -11th in the east. Why bother? if you don't make the playoffs, finish at the bottom, especially since it will be the second straight year of missing the ploffs.
His value to truly contending teams around the league is very high. It should be, with a good team in front of him, he will be even more great. It should be a matter of "when" not "if" Anderson gets traded. He's been a great soldier for Ottawa up to this point and has done everything that's been asked to him, but it's not the time for him in Ottawa anymore.
Under Cameron.... Cowen, Zibby, Stone,Ceci, Lazar are all getting a real chance to play. Give Lehner the same opportunity and, if this is going to be the some sort of youth core, than truly let them all grow together.
Anderson value will never be higher, and Ottawa is miles away from being a real contending playoff team. Trade him.
IMO - mrgilmour18
Agreed. But, to whom? I doubt DET has interest unless Howard is actually out the rest of the year...and even then, it wouldn't be a good strategic decision as the cost will be high and they'd have to deal him away next year anyway. A 3-way deal with SJ may make sense if SJ isn't sold on Stalock...assuming a team would jump in to land Niemi (MIN?)? I could see PHI having minor interest, but they have Mason signed up, so again...not too likely. I don't see many potential places otherwise...which means the market will be pretty soft and a lower return should be expected...
MIN is the only team I think makes a lot of sense to look at Anderson...not sure who they would give up to get him though...Backstrom+1st rounder+prospect, maybe? |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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I'm interested in the type of quick hits you are referring to prior to posting this rumour blog - twiztedmike
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digitalbath
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Detroit, MI Joined: 07.09.2011
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So according to Wings fans... Anderson is worth a 3rd (with salary retention) but Howard is worth *multiple* prospect studs AND *multiple* HIGH draft picks (plural)?
Yikes. - mikeover
1st off i never said anything about anderson only getting a 3rd, i said we shouldnt trade for him at all, he can get more than that somewhere, just not from detroit
2nd, Yes howard has more value than anderson, and yes howard can get at least one prospect and a high pick, i didnt mean hes gonna get 3 studs and 3 first rounders? i think i wasnt clear, i just meant we could trade him for a COMBO of picks or prospects of some sort |
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Buttlick
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: spank me Joined: 07.01.2011
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eww - Streit2ThePoint
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