Didnt realy mean to rag on the oilers in the first place, i personally like them, im just jealous they keep getting the picks they do. If they draft mcdavid or eichel, snag even one of the few good defensemen that will be available UFA theyll be in the playoffs next year or the year after.

Im just saying if you were a kid with all the talent in the world in which all 30 teams would murder to get you. yet the oilers picked you, wouldnt even a little bit of you think.... "FAK"
- digitalbath

Love there talent but forgetting who's the GM???

Love there talent but forgetting who's the GM???
- Ur Not Me

Didnt realy mean to rag on the oilers in the first place, i personally like them, im just jealous they keep getting the picks they do. If they draft mcdavid or eichel, snag even one of the few good defensemen that will be available UFA theyll be in the playoffs next year or the year after.

Im just saying if you were a kid with all the talent in the world in which all 30 teams would murder to get you. yet the oilers picked you, wouldnt even a little bit of you think.... "FAK"
- digitalbath

No I wouldn't at all, i don't think any 1st overall pick in the league is expecting to be drafted by a good team, that's kind of the idea of the draft.

Our rebuild is taking forever because we had no pieces to start it with, and we set ourselves back a year and half by hiring Eakins.

I'm not just saying this, but if i was the best prospect in the world, I would be looking forward to going to a once great team, and contributing significantly to them turning things around.

Didnt realy mean to rag on the oilers in the first place, i personally like them, im just jealous they keep getting the picks they do. If they draft mcdavid or eichel, snag even one of the few good defensemen that will be available UFA theyll be in the playoffs next year or the year after.

Im just saying if you were a kid with all the talent in the world in which all 30 teams would murder to get you. yet the oilers picked you, wouldnt even a little bit of you think.... "FAK"
- digitalbath

Reminiscent of Eric Lindros?

Love there talent but forgetting who's the GM???
- Ur Not Me

Who?

Who?
- robin_steele264

Exactly....

Love there talent but forgetting who's the GM???
- Ur Not Me

Has MacT really been that bad in 1.5 years of being GM? He's only really done one thing that I've hated, and one i disliked.

Exactly....
- Ur Not Me

No Im wondering if you actually know

Has MacT really been that bad in 1.5 years of being GM? He's only really done one thing that I've hated, and one i disliked.
- SpoiledByOil

We both know with the majority of #1 picks, etc, Oilers should not be in the same position again... Yes or No???

No Im wondering if you actually know
- robin_steele264

Exactly......

We both know with the majority of #1 picks, etc, Oilers should not be in the same position again... Yes or No???
- Ur Not Me

Are you forgetting how long it took your team to be competitive? And MacT wasn;t the GM for any of those picks, i don't see the correlation?

I still, and always will, blame our current position on Eakins. We should be fighting for a playoff spot right now with this roster.

No I wouldn't at all, i don't think any 1st overall pick in the league is expecting to be drafted by a good team, that's kind of the idea of the draft.

Our rebuild is taking forever because we had no pieces to start it with, and we set ourselves back a year and half by hiring Eakins.

I'm not just saying this, but if i was the best prospect in the world, I would be looking forward to going to a once great team, and contributing significantly to them turning things around.
- SpoiledByOil

so this is sort of my point, if buffalo drafted you, or NJ or whoever it wouldnt have the the 4th or 5th time in a row basically drafting first overall.. When chicago did it, or pitt, they eventually got better, edmonton got worse

maybe i shouldnt have said mcdavid or eichel, i should have said, if i was hall, i would be depressed

so this is sort of my point, if buffalo drafted you, or NJ or whoever it wouldnt have the the 4th or 5th time in a row basically drafting first overall.. When chicago did it, or pitt, they eventually got better, edmonton got worse

maybe i shouldnt have said mcdavid or eichel, i should have said, if i was hall, i would be depressed
- digitalbath

Pittsburgh didn't make the playoffs until 6 years after their 1st top 5 pick..... so if you want to compare Edmonton to Pitsburgh, then we still have one more year to make the playoffs to follow a similar timeline.

And they drafted 2 generational talents and a pretty good goaltender with those picks.

Are you forgetting how long it took your team to be competitive? And MacT wasn;t the GM for any of those picks, i don't see the correlation?

I still, and always will, blame our current position on Eakins. We should be fighting for a playoff spot right now with this roster.
- SpoiledByOil

Please don't compare apples 2 oranges. If Isles had the higher end draft picks Oilers had, the process of being competitive would have been faster. The difference is that Wang/Snow were not respected around the league and had issues attracting FA's. That doesn't seem to be the problem in EDM... Agree or not?

Please don't compare apples 2 oranges. If Isles had the higher end draft picks Oilers had, the process of being competitive would have been faster. The difference is that Wang/Snow were not respected around the league and had issues attracting FA's. That doesn't seem to be the problem in EDM... Agree or not?
- Ur Not Me

actually yea, that is a pretty big problem for Edmonton, and not all #1's are created equal.

Pretty ignorant comment really lol.

Exactly......
- Ur Not Me

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actually yea, that is a pretty big problem for Edmonton, and not all #1's are created equal.

Pretty ignorant comment really lol.
- SpoiledByOil

Oilers (to me) have no issues attracting FA's (every bad team has to over-pay) problem is which guys got overpaid, isles couldn't land a fish.... Why??

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- robin_steele264

No prob bud!!!!

Oilers (to me) have no issues attracting FA's (every bad team has to over-pay) problem is which guys got overpaid, isles couldn't land a fish.... Why??
- Ur Not Me

Then there's really no point even carrying on a conversation. You really have no clue what you're talking about, and don't trust the words of someone who drinks eats and sleeps Oilers.

Not being able to sign FAs is a HUGE problem for the Oilers, and having to oper pay guys to come is one thing, but when you have to over pay to get a player like Nikitin, it should be painfully obvious to anyone who watches hockey at all to see that we're having issues bringing in helpfull FAs.

Edit: You're basically saying only Islanders used to have a hard time signing FAs, and every other bad teams just need to pay more.

Because everyone knows if someone had the choice between the bad Oilers or the Bad Islanders, most FAs would choose to live in Edmonton over New York

How come mine have never been negative?
- mikeover

This is why.....

Pittsburgh didn't make the playoffs until 6 years after their 1st top 5 pick..... so if you want to compare Edmonton to Pitsburgh, then we still have one more year to make the playoffs to follow a similar timeline.

And they drafted 2 generational talents and a pretty good goaltender with those picks.
- SpoiledByOil

Although I think it was only 5 years (since you stated after their first top 5 pick) and one of those was a lockout, I understand your point. Take a look at what the Penguins had (if you did not really know)

2002 5 Ryan Whitney
2003 1* Marc-Andre Fleury
2004 2 Evgeni Malkin
2005 1* Sidney Crosby
2006 2 Jordan Staal
2007 20 Angelo Esposito

They made the playoffs in 2007 (hence the 20th overall pick, to show that). The Fleury pick, they traded for that (from 3rd overall), but WOW. 1 - 2 - 1 - 2 and not to mention the Crosby straight luck pick after the lockout.

Although I think it was only 5 years (since you stated after their first top 5 pick) and one of those was a lockout, I understand your point. Take a look at what the Penguins had (if you did not really know)

2002 5 Ryan Whitney
2003 1* Marc-Andre Fleury
2004 2 Evgeni Malkin
2005 1* Sidney Crosby
2006 2 Jordan Staal
2007 20 Angelo Esposito

They made the playoffs in 2007 (hence the 20th overall pick, to show that). The Fleury pick, they traded for that (from 3rd overall), but WOW. 1 - 2 - 1 - 2 and not to mention the Crosby straight luck pick after the lockout.
- Lilroot9

You're right, my mistake, it was 5 years.

But with that said, if the Oilers drafted anyone with the talent of Crosby and Malkin, i'm sure we would be in the playoffs by now as well. Crosby came in and socred 102 points as a rookie.

No I wouldn't at all, i don't think any 1st overall pick in the league is expecting to be drafted by a good team, that's kind of the idea of the draft.

Our rebuild is taking forever because we had no pieces to start it with, and we set ourselves back a year and half by hiring Eakins.

I'm not just saying this, but if i was the best prospect in the world, I would be looking forward to going to a once great team, and contributing significantly to them turning things around.
- SpoiledByOil

As not an Oiler fan, I agree. If great prospects didn't want to play for a bad team, they wouldn't want to be drafted high. They would want to be picked later in the 1st round so they would be picked by a "better" team.

Do you see this happen? No. Every young kid wants to be drafted as early as he can. They all want to be drafted 1st overall, even though that means playing for the worst team in the league.

Agreed. But, to whom? I doubt DET has interest unless Howard is actually out the rest of the year...and even then, it wouldn't be a good strategic decision as the cost will be high and they'd have to deal him away next year anyway. A 3-way deal with SJ may make sense if SJ isn't sold on Stalock...assuming a team would jump in to land Niemi (MIN?)? I could see PHI having minor interest, but they have Mason signed up, so again...not too likely. I don't see many potential places otherwise...which means the market will be pretty soft and a lower return should be expected...

MIN is the only team I think makes a lot of sense to look at Anderson...not sure who they would give up to get him though...Backstrom+1st rounder+prospect, maybe?
- mventres

Your asking me to be GM? lol. man, I really miss capgeek.com. Do you have another similar website to that?

With Andy being in the position he is, (playing at the highest level of his career, with a young up and come'r backup 90% ready to take the no.1 goalie slot) Bryan Murray should be on the phone with half the teams in the NHL selling them on why they need Anderson in their lineup. He has been amazing for Ottawa, but is actually doing us a detriment by being in the pipes and playing so well (unless you think we are actually a playoff team, which NO ONE outside of Ottawa would of ever said before the season began) What I think trading Andy can fetch in the market plus having Lehner be no.1 versus Andy staying as a member of Ottawa is totally lopsided IMO. Yet, this is another job for management that Bryan Murray will probably make up some excuse for not being able to make. How well can Bryan Murray sell Anderson? Everyone in Ottawa knows how amazing he is. Bryan needs to find a way to get it through to other GM's that Andy can make a huge difference for their team, just like he has here in Ottawa.

As for what exact teams need a goalie? Minnesota is under intense pressure to make a run, and Andy could really be the answer. Winnipeg is right in the mix, do they trust Pavelac? I wouldn't. SJ like you stated could be a trading partner. Why not Anaheim? Dallas? All im saying here is that Bryan needs to sell other GM's on Andy. Its no secret what he's worth here in Ottawa, and he can be that somewhere else. Bryan needs to inform the rest of the league JUST how good he is. Be a great GM and force another GM's hand into making a deal. Don't take anything less than he's worth, and increase the overall value of the Senators organization.

Then there's really no point even carrying on a conversation. You really have no clue what you're talking about, and don't trust the words of someone who drinks eats and sleeps Oilers.

Not being able to sign FAs is a HUGE problem for the Oilers, and having to oper pay guys to come is one thing, but when you have to over pay to get a player like Nikitin, it should be painfully obvious to anyone who watches hockey at all to see that we're having issues bringing in helpfull FAs
- SpoiledByOil

In fairness, lately the top FA's have gone to PO teams or teams close to being PO worthy. Grant it, its the GM's job of who to identify as players to bring into franchise.
Ex: Ference at the time was/is a hard nose dman, but Nikitin (like u said) is worthless. Get my point?

Also other Oiler fans have mentioned about poor drafting of later rds, doesn't that fall on the GM? But if (like u said) Oilers have issues attracting FA's, not more so than Isles, bc NOT 1 FA decided to sign here unless they were looking for icetime ie; Moulson, etc.... Honestly, I felt that draft year of Yak, Oilers should of tried to trade the pick and acquire as much as possible for that top spot..... I feel for u, but Isles had it much worse.....