Yeah, he said that this morning on "The Fan", which was a little deflating. I was hoping they would be back sooner than 3 more weeks.
- PensFan1103

That's 8 or 9 games in the next 21 days or so. Unfortunate, but it could be worse

Its not like they can't call someone back up if needed. Its better for him to play in WBS than rot in the Pitt press box
- Reverend Killtaker

Agreed, it was just odd. He didn't play any of the games last week and then no games yesterday or today. I guess I am just saying, why keep him up here all last week not playing him, then finally send him down today? Have to figure something besides not wasting time in the press box figured into that decision when they were fine keeping him in the press box the past 3 games (9 days)

To acquire JJ, Pens would need to ship some salary the other way. Basically, the equivalent of a $3.75 mill per player(s).

- 87_71_11_29

They would need $18,817.20 of space for each day Jagr is on the roster if they were to acquire him according to my calculations.

Listening to Rossi on the fan.... God almighty, how did this clown EVER get a newspaper column and/or spot on the radio. What a COMPLETE and TOTAL DOUCHE.

Yeah, he said that this morning on "The Fan", which was a little deflating. I was hoping they would be back sooner than 3 more weeks.
- PensFan1103

I suppose it could be worse but that still sucks. Setback?

They would need $18,817.20 of space for each day Jagr is on the roster if they were to acquire him according to my calculations.
- Feds91Stammer

I came up with $18,918.92 per day (185 days this season).

I suppose it could be worse but that still sucks. Setback?
- HopintheCordoba

He didn't really specify, really kinda mentioned it in a passing comment. He was talking about line combinations and said something along the lines of keeping Kunitz - Crosby - Perron together maybe reconsider some other things with Hornqvist and Comeau out 3 more weeks.

I came up with $18,918.92 per day (185 days this season).
- PensFan1103

I was going off 186 days per nhlnumbers.com

He didn't really specify, really kinda mentioned it in a passing comment. He was talking about line combinations and said something along the lines of keeping Kunitz - Crosby - Perron together maybe reconsider some other things with Hornqvist and Comeau out 3 more weeks.
- PensFan1103

Okay. Thanks. Didn't figure he'd say too much but I thought they'd be near ready at this point...at least to start off ice work and practice. Oh well.

I guess we can expect them back for the home stretch against Western Canadian opponents.

I was going off 186 days per nhlnumbers.com
- Feds91Stammer

Ah ok, I must have miscounted the days in the season this year.

Did I miss something? Didn't we trade a first round pick for Perron? Why is there even any discussion on Jagr or any other top forward?

Even if Maata was in full health I think it would be nuts to trade Martin. He is playing very well and in a contract year (extra motivation). Don't we need good veteran top pairing defensemen in playoffs?

The only NHL defenseman that makes sense to trade is Scuderi but that won't happen unless JR can pull off one of the greatest deceptions ever. Perhaps it makes sense to trade an AHL defenseman like Dumoulin for a third or fourth line forward, though, especially if he has a few years on his contract and the salary is favorable.

Madden just saying he's been told it's very likely Maatta is done for the year.....fwiw.

Ah ok, I must have miscounted the days in the season this year.
- PensFan1103

Either way they should be able to acquire him without sending equal salary.

Example: Spaling(2.2m) + 3rd/4th for Jagr(3.5m) on March 2nd.

Trade would occur with 40 days remaining in season.

(11,827.95*40) = $473,118 for (18,817.20*40) = $752,688

So they would need $279,570 in space at the deadline for the said trade to occur.

Also per HCMJ, Comeau and Hornqvist will both be out 3 more weeks
- znagle

That's actually not bad... I don't remember seeing a time table set on either of them. There is top 6 light at the end of the tunnel.

Listening to Rossi on the fan.... God almighty, how did this clown EVER get a newspaper column and/or spot on the radio. What a COMPLETE and TOTAL DOUCHE.
- madmike71

He is a true imbecile. He keeps his hockey brain in a shot glass in his pocket just in case.

Madden just saying he's been told it's very likely Maatta is done for the year.....fwiw.
- madmike71

We'll see... Hopefully it doesn't come to that.

The best thing about having a top 4 d-man with an entry level deal is that it's great value. The bad thing is that if he's out long term, his LTIR relief ain't much.

I was in total agreement with the column (except for the idea that it ever made sense to trade away Paul Martin) until Jagr crept his way into it. He's a loser who hasn't produced in the playoffs in nearly a decade. To me, he's Barry Bonds without the cream and the clear.

I honestly think the Penguins are pretty much done. They really don't need a bit player even unless there are further injuries. They're pretty well settled when healthy.
- hardnosed

Come on Habs...this is Craig Adams/Malkin territory!!!

http://www.thehockeynews....wn-at-canadiens-practice/

That's actually not bad... I don't remember seeing a time table set on either of them. There is top 6 light at the end of the tunnel.
- rival22

Yeah could be worse, there is our top 6 help. No need to trade a top dman for another forward especially with Maatta likely out for the year.

Either way they should be able to acquire him without sending equal salary.

Example: Spaling(2.2m) + 3rd/4th for Jagr(3.5m) on March 2nd.

Trade would occur with 40 days remaining in season.

(11,827.95*40) = $473,118 for (18,817.20*40) = $752,688

So they would need $279,570 in space at the deadline for the said trade to occur.
- Feds91Stammer

I think they would still need to clear a little more. Last I checked they only had about $215,000 in available space once everyone is healthy and the AHLers are sent back down. Obviously not a huge difference, but still would have to get rid of someone.

that rumor before the season had most of us too much on board with him extending ASAP, myself included.
- Guile

Thought process of Elliotte Friedman:

1. Ehrhoff signed a one year deal with the Penguins when he could have signed a longer deal, here or elsewhere.

2. Date to re-sign one-year contract guys was January first.

3. Eureka! Ehrhoff might very well could maybe sign an extension after January first maybe possibly.

And then it gets retweeted, referenced in blogs, sounded like a barbaric yawp o'er the rooftops of the world.

And this is the second time Ehrhoff has personally disputed Friedman's report.

To my knowledge, Friedman has not printed or tweeted a retraction. Doesn't matter, irresponsible consumers of media blurbs will fall for his next gambit retraction or not.

I think they would still need to clear a little more. Last I checked they only had about $215,000 in available space once everyone is healthy and the AHLers are sent back down. Obviously not a huge difference, but still would have to get rid of someone.
- PensFan1103

I don't know how accurate it is but according to nhlnumbers.com they have $859K in space now. The point though is that deadline deals are much easier to manage when it comes to cap space.

I think Jags is completely happy playing for a non-playoff team, no pressure, making nice coin, scoring points, climbing up the all time scoring list, banging hoes, and gambling.
- 87_71_11_29

Nailed it. And dying alive the whole time.

Thought process of Elliotte Friedman:

1. Ehrhoff signed a one year deal with the Penguins when he could have signed a longer deal, here or elsewhere.

2. Date to re-sign one-year contract guys was January first.

3. Eureka! Ehrhoff might very well could maybe sign an extension after January first maybe possibly.

And then it gets retweeted, referenced in blogs, sounded like a barbaric yawp o'er the rooftops of the world.

And this is the second time Ehrhoff has personally disputed Friedman's report.

To my knowledge, Friedman has not printed or tweeted a retraction. Doesn't matter, irresponsible consumers of media blurbs will fall for his next gambit retraction or not.
- hardnosed

How does that prove he's wrong? He reported the team would have interest. He was right about that. He may have made an assumption the player did, but who wouldn't? If Ehrhoff says he'd rather let things play out, that makes sense. His $ go up after the season/playoffs. Price could be high for any team, not just he Penguins. He could still re-sign after the season. That's his hand. Doesn't mean the interest Friedman reported wasn't valid.

Friedman is usually very reliable. I don't think this is anything more than the player knowing he can parlay a big deal after a good run in the PS with any of the 30 teams.

He is a true imbecile. He keeps his hockey brain in a shot glass in his pocket just in case.
- powerhouse

He wasn't even talking about hockey. He was taking a jab at Steeler fans and it just sounded so manufactured. Sort of trying to emulate Madden, but coming across like a Chinese Rolex.

It was pathetic.... That's all I'm saying. There's virtually nothing about him or his columns/opinions that I remotely respect.