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cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 8 @ 3:08 PM ET
yep he has about 4-5 more years till ready
- gerbe75pts

He is 20 now. 4-5 years we will know .
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 8 @ 3:08 PM ET
drafting a goalie in the 1st or 2nd is dumb IMO you can find late ones that are very good

The proof is in the pudding.

- gerbe75pts



You mean like jake allen or john gibson who were both taken in the second round? the ones you just said you wanted to trade for?

PS. I never said the first round
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jan 8 @ 3:12 PM ET
You mean like jake allen or john gibson who were both taken in the second round? the ones you just said you wanted to trade for?
- MCGUIZZY


should we list the goaltenders taken late ?

and look who they have Brian Elliott ( round 9) , Frederik Andersen ( round 7 ) then round 3 ..

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jan 8 @ 3:13 PM ET
He is 20 now. 4-5 years we will know .
- cabin


yep... that's a long time
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 8 @ 3:13 PM ET
should we list the goaltenders taken late ?

and look who they have Brian Elliott ( round 9) , Frederik Andersen ( round 7 ) then round 3 ..

- gerbe75pts



No we shouldnt. Im not hear to argue with you. I stated that I see the sabres drafting one relatively high as in 2nd or 3rd round. thanks
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 8 @ 3:17 PM ET
No we shouldnt. Im not hear to argue with you. I stated that I see the sabres drafting one relatively high as in 2nd or 3rd round. thanks
- MCGUIZZY

With the excess of 2nds I wouldn't be surprised if they take one last 1st or early second.

Kim Pegula said she and Terry want to draft a goalie every year based on a book they read...
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 8 @ 3:17 PM ET
Why is it people pronounce Sorbet (SORE-BEY), but people pronounce Sherbet (SHERBERT)?
- Buffalo-Sabres


They are using the same rule that results in almost everybody call the guy Nathan GRRRBee and Rayzer calling him Nathan JurBAY.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jan 8 @ 3:17 PM ET
No we shouldnt. Im not hear to argue with you. I stated that I see the sabres drafting one relatively high as in 2nd or 3rd round. thanks
- MCGUIZZY


i'm just saying why should we draft one when you could just trade for a young one that did his time and ready now like Allen or Gibson

if you draft one they won't be ready till maybe year 6 or more ..

just draft one in round 5 or 6 if you want to draft one bad
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 8 @ 3:19 PM ET
With the excess of 2nds I wouldn't be surprised if they take one last 1st or early second.

Kim Pegula said she and Terry want to draft a goalie every year based on a book they read...

- sbroads24



Thats how I feel.. not so much in the first but if we can land the best goalie prospect with one of our seconds, im all for it.


Also about the pegulas and the book they read... Really?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jan 8 @ 3:19 PM ET
With the excess of 2nds I wouldn't be surprised if they take one last 1st or early second.

Kim Pegula said she and Terry want to draft a goalie every year based on a book they read...

- sbroads24


or they could use the picks to trade for one that's ready to play now or soon
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 8 @ 3:21 PM ET
I really think we should go after John Gibson or jake allen at the deadline ..

ducks have a Frederik Andersen i don't think they need Gibson anymore

- gerbe75pts


I don't know. I think they'd be more apt to move Andersen than Gibson. I think the proof in that is that they started the season out with Gibson and realized he wasn't ready yet. That's their guy. It's a matter of waiting for him to be fully ready though.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 8 @ 3:21 PM ET
Sabres Goalies

Matt Hackett 6'2" 171lbs 24
Jonas Johansson 6'4" 198lbs 19
Nathan Lieuwen 6'5" 186lbs 23 (out )
Andrey Makarov 6'1" 178lbs 21
Calvin Peterson 6'2" 175lbs 20
Linus Ullmark 6'3" 220lbs 21
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jan 8 @ 3:24 PM ET
I don't know. I think they'd be more apt to move Andersen than Gibson. I think the proof in that is that they started the season out with Gibson and realized he wasn't ready yet. That's their guy. It's a matter of waiting for him to be fully ready though.
- HonkFortheGoose


hey if they don't want frederik andersen i would take him in a second..

but it's not like andersen is old he is only 25 that's young for a goalie


MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 8 @ 3:25 PM ET
or they could use the picks to trade for one that's ready to play now or soon
- gerbe75pts



You say it as if its so easy to do. Why havent we traded for one yet then? wouldnt you think we would have one by now? Why would a team spend all that time developing them just to trade them?

Its not a desparation move. Its preparing for the future just like any other pick you make. Gibson was drafted in 2011 and hes pretty much NHL ready. So 4 years or About the same amount of time a 2nd or 3rd round prospect would be ready to play.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 8 @ 3:26 PM ET
Thats how I feel.. not so much in the first but if we can land the best goalie prospect with one of our seconds, im all for it.


Also about the pegulas and the book they read... Really?

- MCGUIZZY


I hadn't heard about a book they read. But, I know that most people say that a team should take a goalie every year. They take the longest to develop. They also have the biggest chance of not living up to expectations.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
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Jan 8 @ 3:28 PM ET
You say it as if its so easy to do. Why havent we traded for one yet then? wouldnt you think we would have one by now?

Its not a desparation move. Its preparing for the future just like any other pick you make. Gibson was drafted in 2011 and hes pretty much NHL ready. So 4 years or About the same amount of time a 2nd or 3rd round prospect would be ready to play.

- MCGUIZZY


we had miller ..... this is the first year with enroth

will see if we trade for one this coming deadline

MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 8 @ 3:29 PM ET
I hadn't heard about a book they read. But, I know that most people say that a team should take a goalie every year. They take the longest to develop. They also have the biggest chance of not living up to expectations.
- HonkFortheGoose



Yea I agree. But If there were a chance to draft the clear cut best goalie prospect in the draft in the second round I would do it.


Example: Demko last draft
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
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Jan 8 @ 3:31 PM ET
You say it as if its so easy to do. Why havent we traded for one yet then? wouldnt you think we would have one by now? Why would a team spend all that time developing them just to trade them?

Its not a desparation move. Its preparing for the future just like any other pick you make. Gibson was drafted in 2011 and hes pretty much NHL ready. So 4 years or About the same amount of time a 2nd or 3rd round prospect would be ready to play.

- MCGUIZZY


I would venture a guess that Murray doesn't feel he needs to do so. There could be a guy in the system they feel will be able to take the reins at some point.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 8 @ 3:32 PM ET
Thats how I feel.. not so much in the first but if we can land the best goalie prospect with one of our seconds, im all for it.


Also about the pegulas and the book they read... Really?

- MCGUIZZY

I heard it on WGR that Kim Pegula was talking about some book she and Terry read. I have no clue when but I have heard it mentioned a few times
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 8 @ 3:34 PM ET
I would venture a guess that Murray doesn't feel he needs to do so. There could be a guy in the system they feel will be able to take the reins at some point.
- HonkFortheGoose




Or they just are not available. Im pretty sure Murray at one point said that none of our goalie prospects are even close to playing here.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 8 @ 3:35 PM ET
yep he has about 4-5 more years till ready
- gerbe75pts

you have a lot in common with him
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 8 @ 3:36 PM ET
hey if they don't want frederik andersen i would take him in a second..

but it's not like andersen is old he is only 25 that's young for a goalie

- gerbe75pts

may as well keep enroth then
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 8 @ 3:36 PM ET
or they could use the picks to trade for one that's ready to play now or soon
- gerbe75pts

That's fine with me too.

I like the idea of Gibson, but I don't think ANA would be willing unless you are giving them a piece to help win now.

HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jan 8 @ 3:39 PM ET
Or they just are not available. Im pretty sure Murray at one point said that none of our goalie prospects are even close to playing here.
- MCGUIZZY


Right, but that's just it. They're prospects. They have 2 guys to choose from right now that they can use until they feel one of the prospects are ready.

There are several interpretations to what's been said.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 8 @ 3:39 PM ET
may as well keep enroth then
- homiedclown


No thanks.
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