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SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 7 @ 8:45 AM ET
I know it's leight, but:
Duclair sent back to juniors. Clear bust.

- jmatchett383

DuClair, sounds like LeClair, future Flyer, future 50 goal scorer.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jan 7 @ 8:45 AM ET
nhl network keeps talking bout babcock going to toronto... damnit dont tgey know our coach is really fired too?!
- JoeRussomanno


Its been said babcock wants coach/gm duties and that is why he is not resigning in Detroit....with all the news coming out of toronto recently, they are likely to fire the gm as well.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jan 7 @ 8:50 AM ET
Its been said babcock wants coach/gm duties and that is why he is not resigning in Detroit....with all the news coming out of toronto recently, they are likely to fire the gm as well.
- PhillaBully



The GM is the one who should have been fired.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 7 @ 8:52 AM ET
Just a quick thought:

Although he's not a prototypical 1st line winger, Raffl had some very nice chemistry with Giroux and Voracek. But it seems like, at the first sign of distress, he's swapped off that line for some mix of Simmonds/Schenn/Lecavalier/Van de Velde/Umberger/etc. And it seemed like the team, as a whole, was playing better with him on that top line. Just wondering why Chief won't leave him there and let them stay together past 1 loss.

Actually, I do know the reason (Chief's gonna Chief) but I don't like it.

- jmatchett383



The Flyers have really only one consistent offensive line, and that's the top line with Giroux and Voracek. Berube has been using that pair, and that line to try and get other players going offensively. He put Read up there to try and get him going offensively, and now he's trying to spark plug Schenn who hasn't scored a goal in 12 games, going. It's a reasonable strategy.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 7 @ 8:58 AM ET
Mason was terrific. Glad he was rewarded.

A shootout win! What's next? Locusts, fire, the mumps....
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 7 @ 9:01 AM ET
Its been said babcock wants coach/gm duties and that is why he is not resigning in Detroit....with all the news coming out of toronto recently, they are likely to fire the gm as well.
- PhillaBully


How involved is Brendan Shanahan in Toronto in day to day decisions? How much autonomy will I have?

That would be a question I would have if I were interviewing for a coach or GM position in Toronto. Will Shanahan give a guy like Babcock the autonomy he might want?
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Jan 7 @ 9:02 AM ET
DuClair, sounds like LeClair, future Flyer, future 50 goal scorer.
- SuperSchennBros


Nah we took Z2 instead. We may see Duclair when hes on the wrong side of 30.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 7 @ 9:02 AM ET
Mason was terrific. Glad he was rewarded.

A shootout win! What's next? Locusts, fire, the mumps....

- PLindbergh31


…peace on HB?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 7 @ 9:02 AM ET
Giroux shouldn't have played. He clearly isn't at 100% and I have no interest in causing further damage at this point in this season.
- orangecrush8


Well....he gutted it out and was still a very noticeable player on the ice.

But it was obvious he was struggling a little bit.

I'm ok with him playing as long as he's contributing.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jan 7 @ 9:03 AM ET
How involved is Brendan Shanahan in Toronto in day to day decisions? How much autonomy will I have?

That would be a question I would have if I were interviewing for a coach or GM position in Toronto. Will Shanahan give a guy like Babcock the autonomy he might want?

- johndewar

From what they make it sound like in toronto is that Nonnis reports to shanahan...
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Jan 7 @ 9:05 AM ET
The Flyers have really only one consistent offensive line, and that's the top line with Giroux and Voracek. Berube has been using that pair, and that line to try and get other players going offensively. He put Read up there to try and get him going offensively, and now he's trying to spark plug Schenn who hasn't scored a goal in 12 games, going. It's a reasonable strategy.
- MJL


It is. Although he took too long to implement that strategy in my opinion.

I'd also like to experiment with splitting G and V up at ES. We will probably see Berube do so in about a month.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 7 @ 9:06 AM ET
they won a game while only scoring 1 goal, and did it via SO. wtf'ng hell?
- hammarby31


I feel like that Ottawa team is the bizarro Flyers.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 7 @ 9:06 AM ET
…peace on HB?
- PhillySportsGuy


johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 7 @ 9:06 AM ET
From what they make it sound like in toronto is that Nonnis reports to shanahan...
- PhillaBully


Right.

So how much autonomy does Nonis have to make deals?

How much does Shanahan micromanage the day to day operations, if at all?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 7 @ 9:07 AM ET
I feel bad for Mason. He's playing at an all star level, but will never get the recognition because he's playing behind such a poopty team and poopty PK. #6 in ES Save% amongst starters
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 7 @ 9:12 AM ET
Well....he gutted it out and was still a very noticeable player on the ice.

But it was obvious he was struggling a little bit.

I'm ok with him playing as long as he's contributing.

- johndewar


Watching him lumber around the ice made me wonder why they let him play. On the other hand, I don't think he can make the injury worse by playing, so I guess it doesn't matter. He was still very effective.

Sitting Giroux is basically like conceding losses at this point. They rely on him to preform miracles for this team.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 7 @ 9:13 AM ET
I feel bad for Mason. He's playing at an all star level, but will never get the recognition because he's playing behind such a poopty team and poopty PK. #6 in ES Save% amongst starters
- PhillySportsGuy


Is it possible, at all, that the national media may recognize that the Flyers' biggest problem is their defense, and that the goaltending issue has (more or less) been solved?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 7 @ 9:16 AM ET
The Flyers have really only one consistent offensive line, and that's the top line with Giroux and Voracek. Berube has been using that pair, and that line to try and get other players going offensively. He put Read up there to try and get him going offensively, and now he's trying to spark plug Schenn who hasn't scored a goal in 12 games, going. It's a reasonable strategy.
- MJL


It's a tried-and-true personnel management strategy.

Example: In the two season before the Flyers acquired Reggie Leach, Fred Shero would often plug struggling players onto the top line with Clarke and Barber to try to get them going. Even afterwards, it wasn't uncommon for one of the top three to be temporarily moved to another line.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 7 @ 9:17 AM ET
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Daveflyers36
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.20.2011

Jan 7 @ 9:19 AM ET
Giroux shouldn't have played. He clearly isn't at 100% and I have no interest in causing further damage at this point in this season.
- orangecrush8



If there was any chance of causing further damage he would not have played. And I agree that he isn't at 100% but a partial Giroux is better than a full Rinaldo any day.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 7 @ 9:19 AM ET
I feel bad for Mason. He's playing at an all star level, but will never get the recognition because he's playing behind such a poopty team and poopty PK. #6 in ES Save% amongst starters
- PhillySportsGuy


The Flyers' PK at home is fine (84.5 percent on the season to date). It's on the road where the PK has been a disaster.
Daveflyers36
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.20.2011

Jan 7 @ 9:20 AM ET
I feel bad for Mason. He's playing at an all star level, but will never get the recognition because he's playing behind such a poopty team and poopty PK. #6 in ES Save% amongst starters
- PhillySportsGuy



It was nice to see him get a win like last night when the team usually loses those types of game for him.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 7 @ 9:21 AM ET
Watching him lumber around the ice made me wonder why they let him play. On the other hand, I don't think he can make the injury worse by playing, so I guess it doesn't matter. He was still very effective.

Sitting Giroux is basically like conceding losses at this point. They rely on him to preform miracles for this team.

- PhillySportsGuy


He looked bothered by it, but seemed to get around enough for Ottawa to have to account for him.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 7 @ 9:22 AM ET
I like it when Simmonds punches people in the face.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 7 @ 9:22 AM ET
Is it possible, at all, that the national media may recognize that the Flyers' biggest problem is their defense, and that the goaltending issue has (more or less) been solved?
- jmatchett383


The good writers recognize the problems with this team. You can watch 1 period and recognize the problems.
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